Friday Night Kings Game

This is still January, and it seems like Boston, Philly, Atlanta, Charlotte, Memphis, and Sacramento are actively tanking. Soon the Knicks, the Bucks, the Hornets, the Blazers and the Sonics should be joining them. That makes over 1/3 of the league in a tanking derby. This is the real action this year. If Stern could clone up a dozen Odens and Durants and Noahs, everybody would get one.

i really hope west and rondo get significant time together in the back court . they will be a fun combo. and the more they play together before wally and pierce come back the harder it will be for doc to kill their chemistry.

we win tonight.

Who goes to the bench? Telfair, right? If Doc doesn’t start Green I give up on basketball. Not just the C’s, not just the NBA, the sport of basketball.

At this point, we don’t want to win. There I said it, it kills me but we need to get either the 1 or 2 pick in the draft and hope that Danny makes a trade in the off season to help this team out.

Why hide the fact that we are not as good or talented as many other teams in the league. And all these rash of injuries that keep popping up. My curiosity exists with what the Celtic brain trust would like from this team this year.

They may say win,win,win, which is the politically correct thing to say to fans and media, but when you have a chance to get the top pick in the draft and come out of it with dominant player you do it. Especially considering the play of this team.

I do not want to see Wally or Paul back and have us win games and no we find ourselves with the 7th or 8th pick in the draft. That would completely just put me over the edge.

In my opinion Paul is done for the year. That’s it, and Jefferson and Green are getting the most valuable minutes needed to develop.

completely agree Ancient Red. Im gald someone beat me to the punch. This team needs a top 2 pick. Bring Oden or Durant and everything will fall into place. This draft is too valuable to be talking about making the playoffs and being roadkill. Although I would appreciate a win from time to time, I want a top 2 pick.

tonight we should start rondo, west, green, gomes, and big al. that way you can bring bassy, ray, powe and perk in off the bench. kandi is our 10th man. bing bam boom rotation!

I’m not worried. Rivers will find a way to lose the game. He’ll make ridiculous substitutions or use ridiculous rotations where Alan Ray is guarding Ron Artest or Gomes is the center. He’ll go small at the wrong time and get killed on the offensive glass. He’ll forget to call timeouts when he should, or call timeouts just at the wrong time to break the Celtics’ momentum or cool off a hot player. If the game is close at the end, he’ll run poorly designed plays giving the team virtually no chance to get a good shot, or resulting in the worst shooter on the floor taking the shot. He’ll make defensive adjustments that insure the success of Sacramento’s pick and rolls and back door cuts. He’ll slow it down on every possession, yell incessant instructions to his point guards and spend more time thinking about the post-game press conference than what’s happening on the floor.

I’m really numb to it all at this point, but I’ll probably recover a little just before the draft lottery show in May.

Gerald Green talking about the dunk contest:

And Green says that if he’s asked to compete in the NBA All-Star Slam Dunk Contest, he won’t disappoint the friends, family and media who keep asking him about it.

He won’t reveal what he has in store if gets an invite to Vegas, but he did offer this:

“If I get in there, it will be a night that nobody will ever forget,” said Green.

I can’t wait, James White vs Gerald Green

i thought perk was gonna sit out and rest that foot?
is their contradictory news?

Ancient Red / Brickowski… well said

You don’t win in this league with mid round picks, not the championship anyway.
This season is a bust.Time for Perk to start shooting 3’s.
 :)

I agree with both Ancient Red and Brickowski. Well stated gentlemen. Right now its all about playing the kids and leting them get experience for next year and the years ahead.

I posted this in the other thread today but feel it needs to be reposted here again. I still come from the school you play to win, and try and make the playoffs. Making the playoffs to me means that our players have developed that much more. I don’t like thinking from the view point of wanting to tank to get that #1 pick, as I don’t want to repeat what happened the year of the Duncan. That told us there is never a guarntee that one gets the #1, and to me that season hurt the most. The let down of not getting it, and the overall perception to the world that what was once a proud Celtic team lowered itself to tank, I’ll never forgive ML for that. Please don’t go there again.

So I hope for the playoffs, but will smile with more ping pong balls also if it goes the other way. I love the talent in this upcoming draft, and know what it would mean to land the 1 or 2 pick. I only hope they (ping pong balls) come because of our injury problems, and not from lack of our youth reaching their potential, or from any conspiracy theories of tanking, from management or players. I want management, players, and fans to do everything to win, first and foremost. Because that’s the only way we, “Keep the Faith, Restore the Pride” and carry our heads high in the world. To try and tank, lowers oneself. Think About it, I know your all better than that.

You know if you believe in “Karma”, it could be were paying for the sins of Tanking the Duncan year.

So, with Tony Allen on the shelf, who’s gonna guard Kevin Martin? The guy is liabile to score 40 on us.

 ;D Master Po, you’ll always be a player…your wisdom runs to deep (It’s Friday and we have not lost in 4 days, ;)) proves the point.

Remember you said you needed more nails to rebuild the “Pride”, well my path is to supply you and others with them, and give you a nudge back on the right path when you wavior. Peace My Friend

As i agree with all of you that now is the time to develope the youngs and NOT win at all cost, I feel like the youngs learning to play with Pierce and vice-versa is a part of their developement and the developement of the team. I guess I would like to get Paul in there as long as he is on board with the tank idea. Let him play the 1st and 3rd quarters and let the youngs deal with crunch-time on their own.

I also meant to add: a stuggling west coast team is WAY better than the under-manned celtics. We will definately lose tonight, lets just hope G$ drops 30 in the process.

Hey mcpu40, I know what you’re talking about. I stopped posting on the old board for that very reason. Now you’re saying that the same thing has happened to you on this new board – that is not good news. Maybe changing the board was all visual and not done to improve the performance. I also have taken the time to write a long thought out post which I pondered over and edited many times before I was satisfied with it putting a lot of thought, time and work into it only to have it dissapear when I clicked on the “submit” button.

On another note, why do I keep reading that the Celts are 1 and 12 without Pierce in the lineup. Peter May said it again in today’s Globe but I remember them beating Portland and Memphis without Paul. I see that as two wins. Am I forgetting something?

we need kobe. maybe the lakers will give him up for scalibrini

 :D PO, you got a lot of nerve calling someone “doom and gloom” :D
 I forgive you, because someday I will be old myself.
 

Master Po,

Don’t be a “hate-uh” ………. The Celtics will rise again…

Don’t lose the faith….just keep it coming….it brings out the best of us…….

I’m only being realistic…..and that what stinks…..I want to win again!

How many more years do we “play the kids”? At this rate, every year there will be someone new to teach badly and make a potential star into a mediocre role player.

We are the old Clippers of the East.

Somewhere
Over the rainbow…

Wow, Mcpu40 and Fankie you made me scroll up and I see my post from this morning is gone, but the two that were in front of me are still there, Edgar and ThinknThin.

Jeff you may have problems another thing I noticed is sometimes when I refresh instead of coming back with Alaska it will have lemonadsky, BigAlbrezzy, or someone else. It’s like being were being mixed up when we refresh. Anyone else notice this?

I keep getting other peoples screen names in my “Write a comment” spot at the bottom here. This time it said Alaska, the other day it was tommyfan. Weird…

Same thing here D Dub, good thing were not transporting..plus this is the 3rd try trying to post this. I always copy now before I hit submit in case it doesn’t make it.

Jeff we are caught in Bizzarro world! Help!

Nice credible loss

Indy looking to deal Jermaine and I don’t want him.

I’m opposed to getting Jermaine. I want to see the Celts complete this youth movement. They are saying Durant may very well be one of the top 5 players in the NBA in years to come and Oden will be a great center in a league that lacks even decent centers for the most part. We have a legitimate chance of getting one of these guys if our record continues the way it has. My fear with Jermaine is that he and Pierce aren’t enough to get us to the promised land with our youngsters.

If and when the youngsters pan out, Jermaine and Pierce may be on the downward side of their careers. I think the future is brighter with Oden or Durant and no sense in deciding which one is better unless you are the #1 pick because whoever has it is taking one of these two.

we are the best bad in the league.
look at the talent on this squad. big al jefferson! (thanks cliff) delonte? any doubters now?
rajon, gerald, ryan gomes… we are loaded, and were about to get a superstar swing man who can play the 2,3 and 4 (in a small lineup) and already knows all the plays!

the only way we get a top 3 pick in this draft is if danny drops a bowling ball on paul’s foot.

Okay, next game I want the Celts to start:

1) The ball boy
2) The guy that sweeps the court at halftime
3) That 3rd cheerleader on the left
4) The guy sitting down at the end of our bench with the bow-tie on
5) And the starting center can be that balding guy two rows back with the gray mustache.

Huddle up, 1-2-3 “Go Celts”

The Celtics now have the third worst record in the league, and the next two games are almost certain losses. Excellent. ML Carr would be proud. Of course, ML was trying to lose. Rivers just loses naturally.

You gotta give Doc credit for creativity. Playing Olowokandi, Powe, Gomes, Rondo, and Telfair as a unit for significant minutes would not be something most of us would come up with. When Veal gets back, and Doc sticks him in for Gomes, the group wouldn’t be able to score in an empty gym.

To these radio guys, asking if we want one of the top lottery picks-heck yes, I want a top 2 pick, not 3rd, 4th or 5th. Give me a top 2 pick, no worse than 3rd. Play the snot out of these kids, keep Doc if you want, don’t make any trades, go out and play injured players that need rest, I don’t care. For the rest of the season, all I want is to see the Celts get ping pong ball #1 or #2.

Did West or Jefferson even take a shot in the 4th quarter?

I don’t care what anyone says, we need a top 2 pick. It may be more youth, but its a top 2 pick youth. Rest Pierce, Wally, Perkins, West, and play the rest.

Very funny post, Yewcic. Doc is using his coaching techniques he used at the beginning of the 03-04 season in Orlando, where his team went 1-10. The Cs will be lucky to win two more games by the all star break, without PP.

Expect Green to suffer a season ending injury at a minimum in the dunk contest.

There’s a comedy movie that came up maybe 10 years ago where the Knicks were so bad they have a contest and the winning fan in the arena gets to come down and coach the team- it ends up being Whoopi Goldberg that gets picked and she turns the Knicks into winners. Hmmmmm.

Well lookey-here, lookey-here. I see where Doc said he was upset at Green and yelling at him for not playing good D. Well, so be it. I don’t care if Ron Artest torches him for 35-40pt. As long as Green is hustling and trying to play D regardless of how bad it might be at this point, that’s all I want. Artest is a crafty veteran. Break down the lapses in game films and let Green learn. I don’t care if the rest of the league puts our youth over their lap and beats them on D like a red headed step child. This is the time to live and learn. We had the youth excuse last year, the injury excuse this year. Develop these young players whether we lose by 6, 16, or 60.

Also for the radio announcers on “we just have to learn how to win close games and we just can’t seem to do that yet”. No, it is having a big guy who can get it down low and get you the cheap basket or free throws, not Rondo taken a 17 footer in crunch time. Dump it into Yao, Duncan, Shaq, or in our case Big AL. That’s your best bet last night. We finally have an inside presence, use it down the stretch.

The Kings are a curious team right now, and I wonder if the change from Rick Adelman to Eric Musselman has anything to do with their lackluster record. On paper, they have some very good players, only lacking Bonzi Wells from the team that gave the Spurs all they could handle in the playoffs last year. Mike Bibby, while still very efficient, just does not look like the same player. Reportedly there is friction between he and Artest and one or the other will be moving on before too long.

Nevertheless, they executed on both offense and defense down the stretch, something the young Celtics could not accomplish. Of course, many of us are happy with this result – a competitive effort with good signs from a few players and another close but no cigar for the lottery effort. Better yet, Philly beat the Heat last night, pulling within one win of the Celtics for next-to-last place overall, and Charlotte won a game as well.

Rivers said that when Pierce returns they’ll see where the team is at in terms of playoff chances. It doesn’t take much insight to see they’ll be right around snowball-in-hell. The C’s are seven wins behind the Nets, six behind the Raptors and five behind the Knicks. Their only chance would be to win the division, and by the time Pierce comes back they’ll probably be behind by double-figures in wins with the toughest part of the schedule remaining. As the saying goes, you do the math.

From what I understand, Bibby has a torn tendon in his wrist, or something like that. He definitely isn’t playing to his usual level.

you know what annoyed me last night? you guys are gonna be like huh? Delonte West was pissin me off so bad last night. He shot well dont get me wrong, its good to see him return and hit a couple of shots but he is simply NOT a point guard. When he is in the game our whole offensive flow looks like a JV squad. I dont want him at the point but at the same time maybe its good for our “losing is a good thing” mentality.

Ryan Gomes is a bust. He has had two good games and im sick of everyone trying to force him down my throat as one of our better players. He is a mediocre bench player at best. He just shines right now cuz he’s on the same court as Leon Powe, Scal, Kandi, and Perkins the WORST set of big men in the league. Thank god for Big Al.

Um Po, Big Al Breezy is correct…

Good game for most of the guys…I’m out of the country so just judging by the boxscore. What’s up w/ GG getting so few minutes?

I remember when i was epzfinest and everyone kept on saying enough with the ray talk. i would rather have jackson or ray. not look at what ray is doing. told ya