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- It should now be clear how easily Perkins will be able to operate offensively/defensively with KG/PP/RA on the court...his conditioning and intelligence with positioning should allow him to put up double/double typed numbers...with his understanding of spacing and ability to anticipate where he needs to be, Perkins should be getting 6-8 ppg simply off of uncontested dunks when the defense rotates to stop the 3 All Stars...give Perk a couple of trips to the FT line and maybe 3-4 touches in the post and you've got a nice little nightly stat line...the rebounding and defensive rotations have been rock solid as expected...he is a lock for 30+mpg as long as he's not in foul trouble

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- Ray Allen was the featured players in the offense today and he didn't disappoint...the first game was about getting KG post position, this game was about getting Allen open for shots...Allen shot and used his shot to drive the lane...well executed by the team-Rondo especially...Allen again had innumerable open looks that he hasn't enjoyed since his early days on the Bucks...anyone judging him off of the first pre-season game should understand how much easier the game is going to be for him now that he's got defensive attention being siphoned off by his big-name teammates...Allen may be the oldest of the triumvirate, but his ability to stroke the 3-ball should make his decline a golden one over the next few years...expect Pierce to have a lot of "his" offense put into the game plan for exhibition game 3...

- Tony Allen was the focal point of the "2nd unit" and absolutely did not look up to the challenge as of yet...I am 99 percent certain that the Celtics will not have a "2nd unit" on the court very often at all and will most assuredly keep one or two starters on the court most of the time...but the object of today's pre-season game was to see if TA could feature on offense and he showed he's got a ways to go...TA was overdribbling and the Minny defense quickly caught on to the Boston game plan, trapping Allen and sending help defense quickly his way...

- Rondo made some excellent defensive plays and set Ray Allen up nicely on a number of occasions, which was encouraging...Rondo showed good adjustment in the 2nd half by attacking the seems in the defense on a couple of possessions-something he'll need to do MUCH more frequently during the regular season for the starting lineup to be at its max...Rondo passed up perhaps one shot he could have taken, but was very quick with his decision making and it led to good things on offense for the C's...once Rondo learns his place in the offense and starts knifing down the lane when the opponents defense is scrambling, he'll be a real threat to score the ball and will make the starting unit air-tight offensively...just needs to keep working on his finishing around the basket, which is spectacular at times but still wildly inconsistent-if he adds a money floater, watch out...

- Batista didn't look all that impressive out on the court, aside from the nice dish and finish he had with House...the 2nd unit really tried to play off of Tony Allen and that wasn't much of a success, so the players on this "unit" can be forgiven for looking disjointed--very surprised to see how much they played as a group though...makes me a bit queezy to think of that group playing together for extended minutes as they are entirely perimeter oriented...

- Glen Davis showed off a bit of the nimble-ness everyone fell in love with at LSU, but the group he played with was the epitome of "garbage" minutes and their was no continuity or purpose when they were out on the court...if Davis wants to move up into the "2nd unit" group he's going to be asked to fit into more of a role like Scal is playing for that unit, as a face-up 4 spreading the floor...Davis can't play back-to-basket against legit NBA defenders because he doesn't have the elevation to beat the help defender if he gets past his man...still, he's been the "best of the rest" and deserves a shot to run a bit with the "real" team...

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perk is a beast and he has been having a feast on nice inside passes, especially from kg. also looked good at the free throw line- a big bonus if he can keep that up. too many ticky tacky, almost impulsive fouls like he feels guilty and wants to be punished. agree tony looks like he is still nursing his knee-can’t blame him and will need time to get together internally or til the knee feels right to him. rondo is rondo and even though he has his limitations, is very consistent being himself on the floor. he knows what he wants to do most of the time and has a srong ego which is a major plus having to feed the big three troika.

by nazzbo on Oct 11, 2007 7:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice report, Eric, but I disagree with your assessment of Batista. He was very active, especially on the boards. Yes, he has a ways to go defensively, but it was not for lack of effort. He strikes me as a good back-up 4 and 5, which is more valuable if KG is going to swing between the 4 and 5. Pollard clearly is only a 5. I say Batista will be making the team.

by footey on Oct 11, 2007 8:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Perk is still committing stoopid fouls: I remember one foul of a guard about 25 feet from the hoop, and another foul of a guard cutting across the top of the key, just dribbling, at least 18 feet from the hoop. Plus, he failed to convert on about three point-blank shots because it takes him so long to gather himself and leave the floor.

He’s experiencing “the Rick Robey effect”: a mediocre player looks halfway decent when on the floor with 3 all-stars.

I’m glad Pollard is on the team; Get well soon!

by Eeyore III on Oct 11, 2007 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with Eric – Batista is not very good. He’s already 24 or 25, so what we’re seeing now is what he is. Based on upside, I’d rather we keep Brandon Wallace. Even though BW hasn’t seen action yet, I think he’s got more tools to work with athletically at his age, than Esteban does in his mid 20’s.

I applaud Danny for going after the guy after his strong FIBA performance. That’s a very Poppovich-esque move. But now that we’re seeing him for real, it’s pretty obvious why he was never considered a decent NBA prospect before (I know he was on the Hawks, but he never got off the bench).

by MetroGlobe on Oct 11, 2007 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I like Batista better than Wallace because of his size and aggressiveness. Granted, we haven’t seen Wallace; but, I’ll take Batista’s experience over his as well. Remember, he’s fighting to be the 10-12th man. It’s not like we need him to be a star. Once the season begins I don’t expect that all of The Three will ever sit at the same time, so we’re not asking any of these guys to be a focal point ever. We just need some big bodies around to throw in there if we have an injury crisis at the 4 and 5 spots. Wallace is playing the 3 in practice, and we’re crowed at that spot.

by migit on Oct 11, 2007 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Well Jackie Manuel is going to be cut. The question is, who will be the other player cut? It should be Dahntay Jones or Pollard (who I predict will be hurt all year), but it probably will be Batista, even though I thought he looked like a useful player.

Pruitt and Wallace will likely go to the D-league. Pruitt looks simply horrible out there.

It’s too bad that Ainge can’t package Scalabrine and something else to bring in a Kevin Ollie type.

by Brickowski on Oct 11, 2007 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think it is foregone at all that Batista will be cut. In fact, I think he’s got a good shot at staying.

my guess is Jones is gone

by Jeff Clark on Oct 11, 2007 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

by the way, I’ll probably post another depth charges article soon

by Jeff Clark on Oct 11, 2007 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Great assesment of Perk. What you saw in those two games was exactly what I expected. If he hangs around the front of the rim he will get 2-3 dunks a game without much effort. He appears to be shooting the free throws better as well. Must have worked on that in the offseason. I love Perks scowl all game!

Batista didn’t get enough minutes to judge his potential. Neither did Wallace for that matter. Same for Jones. I think that will come down to the last few preseason games/practice play. I would cut Jones because he isn’t really a need as much as the bigs.

by EJPLAYA on Oct 11, 2007 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Everyone keeps saying that Davis lacks the elevation to get his shot off. Having great hops may be the easiest way to get a shot off in traffic, but it certainly isn’t the only way. He is like a lot of players who move up to a new level. He hasn’t faced competition where he beats his man and still eat the ball. He needs to develop one more wrinkle to avoid the help defender. Most of the players in the NBA don’t do it by powering over the top. Watch Alan Iverson. When he beats his man, he changes direction again in the lane even though no one is in front of him. It works.

by td450 on Oct 11, 2007 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Two quick comments: I diasgree with Batista’s performance yesterday – He’s a beast on the boards! I also think he could become a great rebounder in the NBA with minutes.

As for Big Baby and your observation he won’t be able to play with his back to the basket or simply close to the basket. I ask that you recall ADrian Dantley’s game – a much shorter player with a strong build that became quite the inside presence and made a living going to the foul line.

by Bastone on Oct 11, 2007 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Why would we be foolish and cut Batista?
He is just coming into his own and like many big men
24 is just the right age to make an impression.

He had 7 pts 5 reb 1 ast 2 stls
I bet you his 5 reb in just this one game will be more than
scali and pollard get the entire preseason combined.
and whats this cut wallace when we have scali and pollard
who cant even back up Batista and davis

by perk on Oct 11, 2007 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Perk definitely looked more “polished” than BigAl. It did not “hurt” as much as I thought it would seeing BigAl, Gomes and GG in a different uniform. I have moved on and could care less how the Timberwolves do. And keep Batista on the 12 man roster.

by scndtony on Oct 11, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

This team is SERIOUS.

Core of 3 selfless A superstars that KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE RIGHT WAY, and are all capable of dominating in the flow of the offense without ever forcing anything……… they complement each other so perfect in every way. Its amazing, a perfect fit in EVERY way.

Defense looked great, and the depth is much better than given credit for. Good bench. Rondo looked good, I like house at backup pointguard. Scal and Posey looked good, T.A aint there yet but we all know he’s good….. bench is good.

And PERK IS A BEAST!!!! The paint is closed with KG and Perk down there, and on offense KG just opens up everything with his great passing from down-low, and the double HAS TO come because if not he is just unstoppable down there. Too dominant…. opens it up for Ray and Paul who are 2 GREAT GREAT allaround offensive players, and also for Perk and Rondo……. oh yeah, the perimeter Defense, I said the lane/paint is closed due to KG and Perk and that is TRUE, but also the perimeter Defense by Rondo, Ray and Pierce was GREAT. Thibodeau is doing great with that, and apparently Ray and Pierce are backing up the good game they were talking about defense, because theyve done a great job thus far.

Awesome team.

by celtpride34pp20ra5kg on Oct 11, 2007 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Scal and Pollard will be playing AHEAD of Batista (who may not evne make the team and if does at best will be backup if pollard aint healthy, and 3rd string dnp-coaches decision when pollard is healthy) and Davis.

by celtpride34pp20ra5kg on Oct 11, 2007 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Bastone I agree. How about Elton Brand? or Charles Barkley?

by celtpride34pp20ra5kg on Oct 11, 2007 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

My take on rounding out the roster (and it has been my gut feeling all along):

  • Batista is in. He has shown enough in team scrimages and in his limited action we have the need for his size (Pollard could end up giving the team more hair styles than rebounds with his injuries).
  • Manual is gone. Leaving Wallace Vs Jones for the final cut. Jones could be serviceable (TA insurance/assist with the point) but Wallace has too many advantages over him for mine – length, age and potential. Jones and Wallace will serve the same purpose on this team (defensive stopper behind Posey/healthy TA) and I’ll take Wallace six days a week and twice on Sunday over Jones.
  • Did I mention Wallace is also getting $$$ on the contract.
  • Don’t get me wrong I like Jones (loved his highlight dunk last year for Griz) but the guy will be better elsewhere.
  • Wallace and Pruitt to development league.

Funny how KG has got me this opinionated in the PRESEASON…

by Green_Lantern on Oct 12, 2007 5:19 AM EDT reply actions  

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