Cuts Coming Soon?

PLEASEEE cut D. Jones…He just doesn’t seem like he fits here at all.

Is there a reason that they wouldn’t keep the 15 until they find this player that is worth making a move for down the road!? I am failing to see the benefit of not keeping that 15th guy in case you never find something. You can always cut him then…

In the end it won’t matter who gets cut. If we’re really as good of a team as we think, you won’t even see the 11th and 12th guy play this season anyway, nevermind the 15th.

wallace’s potential seems real to me. maybe it’s losing all the kiddie corps and their potential that has left a potential void i need to fill.

mauel will be let go before wednesday’s game. esteban has to stay until pollard gets right and between Jones and wallace, JOnes has more experience and is ready to contribute now. Plus you can play small ball with him. I thought he and tony were effective together on the defensive end and can create a lot of havoc. he’s not much of an offensive player but he can get out on the break. Wallace’s length is something we don’t have so maybe he stays but do you think danny and doc really want 3 rookies ( pruitt,baby and wallace)on a team plus esteban? I think the youth movement is over at least for now. I think they keep jones over wallace for his experience.

It is unfortunate that we cannot, but we really should cut Scalabrine, Pollard, and Manuel – they are the lowest men on the totem pole when it comes to the ability/potential slider: they have neither.

I am really surprised Danny hasn’t packaged two of his younger players with Scal’s contract to bring in a decent vet big man. They do not have a ton of value, but some combo of Pruitt, Powe, Davis, or Allen should be able to land something.

My guess would be they would make the cuts now because they are going to be the guys without garunteed contracts. They’ll cut them before they have to sign them.

i just hope they don’t cut Wallace. remember him swatting Yi about 5 times in summer league?

I don’t see how they save money cutting Wallace, his deal is locked in. If they cut to 14 to save money, Batista is the cut. Seems penny wise – pound foolish though. Keep 15, if the need comes cut later:

I see Manuel and Jones cut soon. Jones because he wants to find a place where he can get real minutes – which he won’t behind Tony Allen and James Posey. (I think Tony Allen is far enough along, that he’ll play from th git go.)

Wallace and Pruitt go to NBA DL. Pollard is DNP-Injury until he gets better, at that point it will be game to game, who of Batista or BBD is DNP-CD, although it probably should be Scal.

‘Doc calling out Davis for being lazy’ is a gross overstatement.

I could see them sending BBD to the NBDL, not because they couldn’t use him here and there now, but because it’s the only leverage they have to get him to lose weight and get in shape.

If I were deciding I think I would cut Manuel and Jones, send Wallace, Pruitt and Big Baby to the developmental league and then decide whether to buy out Pollard now or not.

Is it me or does anyone else get real nervous when Doc starts talking about his strategy for practice, player selection, chemistry or, for that matter, basically anything about the future of the Cs?

Why cut down to 14 for “flexibility?” You can always waive a player; it takes 48 hours. Rivers is an idiot (but we knew that).

Clover Danny needs no leverage to get Davis too lose weight. He knows he has to and has been losing weight for over a year now. He wants to be the best player he can be and that means losing more weight. It will happen. Conditioning is important. Talent is more important. He should be on the floor from the get go to gain self-confidence and for the Big Three to gain confidence in his abilities.

As for the cuts. I’m thinking Batista didn’t impress otherwise they’d be saying 15. Manuel and Jones look the first out the door. I think Wallace is worth keeping. Who knows if Posey is here next year? Wallace looks a guy worthy of time and development.

As for the win-now mindset. There’s no point sacrificing a young talented guy for a vet unless that veteran can crack the rotation or press that rotation for minutes. Dahntay Jones isn’t capable of that so cut him loose. Manuel, looks like bad timing for him. Batista still being judged but you get the feeling his lack of D and inconsistentcy on the boards is gaining Doc’s ire. We’ll see.

Batista still has time and seems the one to watch out for the most. He can either play and will be a very useful piece. Or he’ll be a dud. There doesn’t seem to be anything in between for him.

Manuel and Wallace are good as gone

I can see them cutting Manuel and Jones. I don’t think they would send Big Baby to the D league where
they can’t monitor his diet, exercise and overall
conditioning. Wallace, Pruitt and Batista would be good fits in the D league.

I haven’t seen Wallace play but I’m surprised people think we’ll keep him over Jones. Is it just for the fact that he is eligible for the D-League?

Wallace, Pruitt and Batista would be good fits in the D league.

Batista is no longer eligible for a DL assignment.

Jones is a poor man’s D-West. I think it’d be good to have a combo guard like that, and he’s more NBA-ready than Pruitt at this point. Pollard is living off the rep he forged years ago in Sacto. He should never have been signed to begin with, but he won’t get cut.

A 12-man lineup: PP, Ray, KG, Perk, Rondo, TA, House, Posey, Powe, Batista, Scal, Jones.

D-League (to start the season): Pruitt, Wallace, Big Baby

Cuts: Pollard, Manuel

Batista & Wallace have a shot. I think part of Bastisa’s chances hinge on Pollard’s health. If his ankle seems questionable, they’ll keep Ernesto. And I agree that Doc calling out Big Baby at this point does not seem like a good sign. He could just be needling the rookies though…

Wallace because he’s 6-9 and makes solid decisions on the floor. He has the makings of a good defender and he creates plays when they seem lost by bursting through palyers not blocking out and collecting a board, or by making a late block or a deflection. He has a nice shooting touch also but is hesitant.

Guys his size who do that are rare and valuable. He’s worth taking a shot with to see if he can develop the rest of his game.

Just from reading the comments here, that just shows how tough of a decision it will actually be. Whoever gets cut, some people are going to disagree. I think right now the only thing that everyone can agree on is that Manuel is gone before Wednesday.

That being said, the next cut will probably be one of the toughest Doc has had to make since being with the green. Both Jones and Wallace have tremendous upside, and both would be valuable assets for the future of this team.

However, I think the upside with Wallace is greater, and being that neither will play any serious minutes this year, they will probably go with Wallace. This guy has potential written all over him, and he works as hard as anyone. He has a chip on his shoulder from not being drafted, and he seems to be rejuvinated at the 3 spot. Everything about sports says keep this guy.

They will absolutely keep 15, because its gonna be hard enough making 2 cuts, never mind 3. Until something better emerges, the Celtics only logical move is to keep 15, cutting Jones and Manuel.

I don’t think Batista should even be in the discussion involving cuts, just because with Pollards health and our limited depth of our frontcourt, we clearly could use him. He is a lock to make the roster, as is Pruitt and Davis.

The only reason not to cut to 14 is if you think the guys you are keeping are better than the 10-day contract guys that you could bring in if injuries get really serious. If a guy like Batista or Jones isn’t better than that type of cheap pickup, then there is no reason to pay him to sit at the end of the bench doing nothing. I believe Doc when he says that practice just becomes a hassle with that many guys. You need your 10 rotation guys to be on the practice floor as much as possible now, because when the season begins there really isn’t much time to practice between games. Smart move by Doc.

Manuel and Wallace are gone.

People who think we should keep Batista and Jones, and that Scalabrine should be DNP-CD are funny…

Batista is a must keep…with Pollard out right now you have Powe and Scal in the front court, that’s it…it isn’t even up for debate, hes a lock to make the roster.

and yes I’m aware we have Big Baby also, but you’ve got to be kidding me…he’s more out of shape than most fans and his blog is insufferable…I really hope he isn’t a Celtic for very long.

Up to now, Batista has performed worse in extended minutes than Scalabrine in limited. We’ll probably keep him, because he’s 6’10, but I don’t think he’ll be good for anything but the proverbial 6 fouls on Shaq.

As bloggers, we’ve only seen glimpses of the players on the bubble. We’ve not heard any recent updates on how they are performing in practice so conjecture on our part is pure speculation.

Logic suggests that players with contracts will be retained and those without contracts remain “on the bubble” and are prime candidates for being cut.

BB Davis and Pruit have contracts as does Pollard. One might assume that they are safe despite reports that Doc has been disappointed that BB Davis is “lazy” and has gained (instead of lost) weight during training camp…as in Doc’s comment that Davis’s waist appears to be 42inches instead of the 40 inches seen at draft time. On the other hand, Doc has called Davis multitalented but still has alot to learn.

Pruit, despite showing us that he’s unlikely to become a PG in this league, was signed for 3 years because of “potential”. He’ll be kept.

Pollard, as expected, is an injury waiting to happen but we certainly need insurance at the “5”. Danny evidentally believes Pollard can provide quality minutes.

Manuel is gone. The “bubble” players are Jones, Batista and Wallace. While Wallace has a partially guaranteed contract, I think that contract was only designed to give the Celtics’ an EXTENDED look.

While it would appear that Doc is in charge of the final cuts, I’m thinking that Tom Thibodeau will factor heavily in the final two cuts (Manuel gone for sure). Thus, roster balance and defensive need will be given a high priority.

[We probably have] too many guys. I want to get my guys reps, Rivers said. We’re not like teams like the Spurs or Detroit who want to keep 17 guys so they can get their guys rest. They know what to do, they know how to play [together], they’ve been through everything. We haven’t been through anything.
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Can we apply that same standard to Rivers and carry 2-3-4 additional head coaches? He doesn’t know what to do, doesn’t know how to coach, and hasn’t been through anything that has made him better at game decisions.