gard to believe the t’wolves couldn’t get more for ricky, even if they were able to dump blount. what a travesty mchale is.

I’m sure Dwayne Wade is really looking forward to playing with Blount and Ricky.
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Toine will get bought out and be a celtic within 2 weeks, Minn has no use for him.

I am not surprised they got traded from what we have heard in the past about chemistry not working. There is probably going to be a lot of movement this week and next as the teams finalize their rosters after seeing the pre-season games. If we do not get a big man and Pollard and Perk have health problems it looks like Powe and Baby will be playing more then anyone expected. Not sure about Wallace why he doesn’t play? Also if teams press us we have 7 guards on the team as of today. Bring in 1 extra guard to break the press. This way you make the other team adjust to your change and the press fails for them.

McHale must be homesick

Reacreation at it’s … uhh … masterpiece?

First of all, Jeff, if you are serious about actually liking Antoine Walker as a player or as a person, either way, then, well, are you serious or just out of your mind. Wa;lker was probably the worse thing ever to happen to our team. Such a stuck up example of inner-city hoops has never been replicated. An uncooperative selfloving punk, yeah, a punk from the hood.

I suppose Mnny does this deal because Jefferson hates Blount and Blount probably was already pouting about minutes. Same with Ricky. They got Brewer and Foye and now Gomes.

I’m glad I’m not the only one that has a crazy idea that Toine gets bought out and signed as our bench leader.

This trade makes me very nervous. We can make fun of Blount and Davis all we want, but this trade makes Miami a considerably better team.

First, Miami needed another scorer alongside DWade, and Ricky if nothing else knows how to score in bunches. Either off the bench, or alongside Wade at the end of games, Ricky is always a threat to score and is only a problem when he’s allowed to dominate the ball, which he can’t do on Miami.

And second, adding Blount to an aging Zo and an aching Shaq allows Miami to keep both fresher throughout the year as they rotate as a three-headed center. Then, come playoff time Miami will be able to use a twin-towers lineup, keeping two 7ft, 260lbs players on the floor at all times. This could spell serious trouble for Detroit, Chicago, Toronto, New Jersey, and of course, our beloved Celtics – none of whom boast much size.

Finally, I don’t think Miami is worried about Ricky or Blount’s antics because of the presence and respect that Shaq commands. Fans laugh at his dwindling skills and ever-expanding waistline (although he’s looking trim by his own outragous standards), but Shaq is regarded as a god among other players. Read the reports of how Shaq holds court at all-star game festivities and the deference he is paid by the likes of veteran AI or newcomer LeBron. He is the unquestioned elder statesman in the league right now among players. And while they may be stupid enough to blow off Riley, I can’t see Ricky or Mark tearing apart a Shaq-governed locker room.

This deal is bad for the Celtics, and we should take it very seriously.

the wolves are going to be the worst team in the history of the NBA.

Blount will be in a Pacers uniform as soon as it is plausible by the trade rules. Sorry, Oh Great One, but Blount won’t be there long enough to appreciate Riley. Blount may end up being an all-star playing for Obie. I doubt Blunt will respond to Shaq or Riley any different than he did for Rivers or anyone else. He’s that stupid and enigmatic. He has an allegiance to Obie and if he gets there, will play the way he did pre-contract.

This deal also may give Walker new life. If they don’t buy him out and the Wolves are interested in staying in the lottery, this deal could backfire on them. Walker with all of the pieces that McHale has put together could land them an 8 seed. There are an awful lot of players on McHale’s roster with a chip on their shoulders. Walker brings them leadership and a an exhuberance for the game. If Ratliff plays 60 games and isn’t dealt, the Wolves are suddenly formidable.

I don’t see Blount staying in Miami long enough to have an impact at all. Ricky is strictly a bandaid for Wade. I don’t see how this does much for Miami at all…depending on who they end up getting for Blunt.

This is awesome- it is great to have a second favorite team that you can watch grow, while your favorite team is dominating the competition. Toine is pretty much my favorite player of all time- so this is great (although I was a Ricky fan, too)

Walker, I hope will sign with Boston and end his carear here…….3 year deal 5 million total. I’d be happy…..he would get limitted numbers off the bench!

I see this as helping Miami. Blount will give depth at the center and the PF spots. Ricky improves both their wing spots. Either is a decent option to be retraded if things dont work out…

 Jefferson changed number for ’toine during that playoff run…. The 12-0 streak or whatever that was. Mchale got Al his hand-picked mentor. T-wolves are the best D-league team the celtics never had.

It has been reported on the Miami RealGM forum that Miami is also sending part of the cash that will be needed to buy out Toine. Walker also said some good things about us after we traded for KG. So Walker will probably be cut by the Wolves.

Here comes Walker – should be a boost for our bench. Let’s hope we can get Walker in shape here.

Does anyone really think Ainge will want Toine back?

we are not ending up with toin. he does not fill a pressing need. (need #1 back up 5 #2 back up point)

Arctic 3.0, Toine would play the backup PF, so Scal and Powe are expendable. We could sent both of them along with picks to Memphis for Stoudamire, and then sign a decent C. Here’s what I’m talking about:

Perk/Pollard/Doleac? Kandi? Cato?
KG/Walker/Big Baby
Pierce/Posey/Wallace
Ray/House/Jones
Rondo/Tony/Stoudamire

Brandon Wallace better not get too comfortable in his number 8 jersey because Antoine is going to want it back after he is bought out by the Wolves. Long live the wiggle

Brick said this a few weeks ago, and I’m going to echo it here: The Twolves will win more games this year than they did last year.

Wallace will take #7 then.

And Scal is definitely the odd man out if we sign Walker, because Toine does everything Scal does, just better. Walker also has a post game, which Scal definitely lacks. So we need to get rid of him this week! And basically Big Baby can replace Powe without any problems. As I said, Scal & Powe, maybe picks, for Stoudamire.

if this 3 for 2 trade goes down, Minn is going to have 20 players under contract for this year. There’s a lot of guys on that team that’ll be looking for a home.

As for Walker, as much as I loved his Celtic spirit, I’m not sure he really has much left in the tank. The guy couldn’t get up to finish around the basket the LAST TIME he was here.

well P2, its either a few #2 picks or some way out there #1. you can’t trade #1 picks in back to back years, and our ’09 pick is already going to Minn.

P2 – man Antoine can’t even fake being the defender Scal is. And he doesn’t get close to shooting the ball as well as Scal. Does he have some redeeming features to his game? Yes. Is he better than Scal? Jeez he was awful last year. I’m not sure at this stage. Is he better at Scal’s role than Scal? Hell no.

Iowa Plowboy – I think you are delirious, some old allegiance to Celtic youths clouding your judgement. No way do Minny make the playoffs. No way are they in contention. Man I’d be impressed if the manage to beat 60 losses which I don’t expect at all.

it won’t happen, but i’d rather get gomes back. they can keep employee #8. we need a center and a pg. kevin now has a full boston rooting section now that skippy 1 and 2 are gone.

Solid trade for both teams, but it does make Miami more dangerous. Ricky Davis brings the ability to create his own shot, which only DWade was able to do for Miami. That’s a very athletic 2-3…or 1-2 when DWade plays PG.

Minny gets to dump two cancers and gets cap flex. If Ricky was a character guy and a team player, they would have been inundated with offers. But his track record of me-first ball reduces his value. As for Blount, who wants a 7 footer who doesn’t rebound at all.

Scal and Antoine are, at this point, nearly identical. Except that Antoine has a bigger ego and doesn’t hustle.

 Does anyone really think Ainge will want Toine back?
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No

Who, that may be the best name I’ve been called in a long time.

Our youth has been poorly coached, at best. They will have a chip on their shoulder and will at worst, get a major upgrade at head coach. The Wolves got rid of two major headaches for someone who can help them. Walker, in a leadership role, is not a negative to a .500 team. If they keep Walker, he will want to win. He’s too competitive not to. Jefferson tutored by McHale, is a superstar on the horizon. Ratliff, if he plays, gives them a defensive presence to help cover for Walker and Gerald as Gerald improves his defense….And he will. The Wolves have a lot of good pieces.

Clippers are decimated and won’t make the playoffs.
Warriors are unhappy and probably won’t make the playoffs.
No team with the thugster will make the playoffs so the Nuggets won’t.

I think the Grizz and Wolves will be competing for the 8 spot if the Wolves want to win. If they don’t, Walker and Ratliff will be moved.

migit: …This deal is bad for the Celtics, and we should take it very seriously.

I agree with migit. It makes Miami much more of a serious threat than they were before. It’s consequences on the Celtics through Miami’s improvement are far more significant than anything that happens to Walker.

Adding Ricky and Blount makes Miami more of a contender?! Blount and Ricky are locker room destroyers. The only chance of that not happening is if they are afraid of a beat down by SHAQ. Ricky can only score when he is the man. With DW and SHAQ on that team he is no where near the first option. He will wear out his welcome quickly. Secondly, he is a tier 3 or 4 player at best. Blount isn’t better than most team’s backup. This is a quick fix for Miami while DW is not 100% and a way to get rid of Walker that Riley isn’t enamored with. Nothing more…

Iowa, I generally agree with your posts, but your way off with the AI/nuggets assessment. Mark it down, they are definately making the playoffs.

In case you forgot, they made it last year and AI was on the team. And Carmelo had that long suspension. And now their getting back the original K-Mart. They still need a 2 gaurd but their definately making the playoffs.

As for the thugster comment, remove your perception of what kind of guy AI is and just notice his game. There’s a lot of wear and tear on his body, and his outside shot is a bit streaky, but the guy can flat out play the game.