Will Walker Be Bought Out?
McHale has to cut some players. It sounds like Simien will be one of them. Will Walker be another one? It isn't mentioned specifically here, but I'll bet they are considering it. (Pioneer Press)
Vice president of basketball operations Kevin McHale said he might not be done making moves. If nothing else, the Wolves have to trim at least three players off the roster to meet NBA rules. How McHale will do that remains to be seen. Another trade remains a possibility, along with waiving players and/or buying out contracts.
The deal gives the Wolves 18 players, and the regular-season roster limit is 15. McHale hinted that at least one of the players acquired in the trade will not be on the roster soon, but he wouldn't elaborate.
It wouldn't be shocking to see Doleac and/or Simien not with the team by 5 p.m. Monday, the league's deadline for teams to set their Opening Day rosters.
Walker and Doleac could arrive in Minnesota today. Simien won't be brought in right away, which leaves his future in limbo as the Wolves contemplate other moves.
"It's a deal that I'm not sure all the players are going to report here," McHale said of the trade with Miami. "We've got to make sure all the players are healthy. We've got some other stuff that we're probably going to do inside this deal. There's a lot of business going on. We'll see what happens."
"We're just going to see what happens," said Walker's agent, Mark Bartelstein. "We'll take it a day at a time and see how it goes. He's a great player. He plays hard everywhere. There's no sense jumping to conclusions."
More details after the break.
Update: CelticsThug reports that Antoine will be bought out and wants to be a Celtic. Please address questions to him on that rumor on his blog.
Doleac, 30, is a 6-foot-11 center who has career averages of 5 points and 3.4 rebounds. His contract is valuable to the Wolves because it expires after this season. He is set to make $3.12 million.
Simien, a 6-9 forward who was a 2005 first-round draft pick, has had tough luck. He missed 53 games because of injury or illness during his first two seasons in the NBA. He has career averages of 3.3 points and 1.9 rebounds.
Simien had left knee surgery this summer. He appeared in just one game for the Heat this exhibition season.
Simien will make $997,800 this season. The Wolves hold a team option for the 2008-09 season, meaning they can bring him back or let him become a free agent.
Walker has four seasons left on his contract, but only the next two seasons are guaranteed. He is owed $8.3 million this season and $9.05 million in 2008-09.
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Simien at this point isn’t any better than Davis or Powe.
If they cut Doleac he’d be a solid pickup, he’s better than Pollard.
If he’s cut there’s 5-6 teams who will be calling him.
by Scotty on Oct 25, 2007 9:49 AM EDT reply actions
I do know a bit about Simien from Kansas days. Watched him there intently. Great kid, good skills, very dedicated player with a solid family. He would be a nice back up IF he can get healthy. I do not know of his current condition but I suspect he will and would a cheap pickup/backup. He was 1st team All American in collge I think.
I expect Doleac and Jaric to be buyout victims with Doleac being picked up by us to add depth to the 5.
by HRB on Oct 25, 2007 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
You’ll know if McHale wants a competitive team or a 20 win team as soon as you see the roster. If Walker is cut, I wonder who will want him?
Oh Great One, I watched a few of Kansas’ games during Simien’s tenure. A little undersized but a very solid player. Agree with Scotty though. And to their “benefit”, Powe and Davis know Rivers’ “system”…..Now if only the rest of us could figure it out….
Doleac wouldn’t be a bad pick up at all.
If McHale cuts Walker he’s a fool. Walker’s contract will be very valuable next year. Plus Walker and Jefferson like each other, plus Walker is probably the best point guard MN has.
Foye can bring the ball up and give it to Walker. That’s all Foye is capable of doing anyway when it comes to running an NBA offense.
So Edwards and Simien will probably be cut, which leaves one more player to take care of. In my opinion, either they have a trade waiting or one of Howard/Toine/Doleac gets bought out.
by P_two on Oct 25, 2007 10:21 AM EDT reply actions
Expiring contracts are only valuable on the market when there is a player who wants to play for the team trading for him and that player’s longer contract is acceptable to the receiving team….Minny isn’t going to be acquiring large contract players for a while as they’ll be sifting through their own youth and finding a core before committing dollars to players who are on the trading block…don’t expect Minny to be using any of their contracts to acquire high-priced talent…
by BillfromBoston on Oct 25, 2007 10:35 AM EDT reply actions
Walker’s contract is only valuable if Minny want to add future salary in a trade. With so many rookie contracts on the payroll waiting to get extended I don’t see that happening.
by bullsblogger on Oct 25, 2007 10:38 AM EDT reply actions
Doleac would be excellent Pollard insurance. Antoine is not needed on this team. You’ll get more out of GD if they give him the chance.
by Green Mountain on Oct 25, 2007 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
Toine would be much better than Scal off the bench. In his disastrous championship hangover season last year, Toine shot 50% from inside the three point arc. As the first guy off the Boston bench, Toine could focus on setting up teammates, a role which he is still well suited. He would have to get away from taking so many three point shots, unless he’s hitting him at the percentage he did his first year in Miami (36) than last year (27).
Minny will cut Edwards and buy out Doleac. They then have to choose where to eat a bunch of money; Toin 2/$18m. Howard 2/$14m, Jaric 4/$26m or Buckner 4/$16m. The other option is to buy out Theo, but I doubt they will buy out 2 centers (or centres, as a certain Brit Who likes to write on this board, annoyingly lol). They could cut either Chris Richards, Simien, or Craig Smith along with Doleac and Edwards.
I’m guessing that Miami had to send the maximum $3 million to Minny for the Doleac buyout (He will get $2m from Minny and the other million from his new team.) Boston should take any of Doleac, Theo, Toine or Howard if they shake loose from Minny.
by TripleOT on Oct 25, 2007 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
If he is coming off the bench to play with the stars, then I want Scal. At least he isn’t going to try and shoot it every time down. Walker would be a disaster out there with the big three.
If all three, or at least 2 of the 3, are on the bench, then I’d rather have Walker out there than Scal.
They aren’t going to cut him, but if they do, it would be a bad move to bring him back in here as much as I liked him.
Walker was horrific last year and he is in even worse shape this season.
I don’t think old Antoine is coming back. So new Toine. Yeah I think Wolves are better off giving minutes elsewhere.
They might just be worse with Toine. I certainly wouldn’t rule it out.
Toine, is he better than Scal for Scal’s role? I’m not sure. He can’t defend. He can’t shoot. He has some redeeming features but enough? Not sure.
I would LOVE THIS MOVE if we could get him back. We have more heart than ever.
Perfect 6th man.
by rickyfan3.0... on Oct 25, 2007 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
Jeff, why you got to give exposure to celticthug? He’s a bum!
by bleedingreen on Oct 25, 2007 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
At first I would say this will never happen. But then again I said the same thing about getting KG after the Allen trade so what do I know. I think I would enjoy having him back here as long as he is used in the right way (no 3’s!!!)I believe he was shipped out (the 2nd time) because they felt he would never adjust to a back up roll. I think he has shown he can be used as a back up type player. He did give us a lot of heart when he was here. He loves playing here with Paul. He could be used on this team I think.
Wow these Celtic Thug rumors are hot! He’s making it sound like we’ll have Antoine in less than a week.
The 2 points he makes which would be good: he would accept the minimum offer that Boston has to offer and he would embrace the role of 6th / 7th man. Those are necessary in order for this to work.
Roy Hobbs is rolling over in his grave right now.
by shahpound on Oct 25, 2007 12:13 PM EDT reply actions
Antoine Walker is not walking through that door, fans. Wayne Simien is not walking through that door, and Micheal Doleac is not walking through that door. And if you expect them to walk through that door, they’re going to be wearing Minny uniforms. What we are is mature, exciting, hard-working, and we’re going to win games. People don’t realize that, and as soon as they realize those three guys are not very good players, the better this town will be for all of us because there are talented guys in that (locker) room ready to win.
Are you people insane? Walker is terrible, has been terrible and now is in terrible shape. Keep him away from this team at ALL COSTS.
I don’t need to see his whining anymore. Bad enough he rubbed off on Pierce. I don’t want to see whining on the court.
by dmartin17 on Oct 25, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
Toine and Bib Baby would be entertaining indeed. I wouldn’t mind having Antoine back, as long as he was willing to play an M.L. Carr towel-waving role. We could also use him to provide some leadership to the second unit. Again, it’s all about what role he wants to play. A grumpy Toine would do us no good. But, a happy Antoine would be fun. Of course, coaxing P.J. Brown back to the hardwood is preferable by far.
Hey, anyone remember when people actually used to compare Antoine and KG with straight faces?
Does that guy over at CelticsThug know about a thing called spell check?
by Real World on Oct 25, 2007 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
I think we could really use Antoine as our PG. He flourishes in that role. Neither Miami nor Dallas really took advantage of his ability as a floor general. But he was very, very effective for us because our PG’s were puke during those playoff runs. I think he could be immensely helpful. And I also believe 100% that he would fully accept that role and not cause any chemistry or alpha-dog issues with the Triumverate.
Ainge did go out of his way to get Walker in a Heat uniform, but since that time Walker’s game has fallen off the face of the earth…still, Walker does have a skill set and versatility that could be useful with the 2nd unit since nobody on the 2nd unit is capable of being a 6th man…i’m sure Walker is out of shape, but he’s a veteran and he has been a part of a title run before…Boston fans would go crazy as well…
The team looks like it needs a center, but only Ainge and company no what condition Scott Pollard is in…if Pollard is good for 10-15 mpg he and Perkins should hold down the 5 nicely—-and that doesn’t even take into consideration the match ups where the team won’t need a legit 5…
As speculative and wortheless as CThugs info typically is, I could see this working out as a low-cost, low-risk option…as far as Walker has fallen, he’s still the best talent the team is going to get for minimum money and he can do some things that would help this team…and he can be dumped no-problem if he is a problem…
I actually think Celtics Thug does have inside info. I also think he’s an intelligent guy— the spelling mistakes are intentional, as he uses them as a decoy. Call me a conspiracy theorist.
by Mr Freeze on Oct 25, 2007 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
The biggest concern with Antoine’s possible return to Boston remains the same reason he was shipped out before. Like Ricky Davis, he walks to his own tune.
As for what he COULD contribute if he had a substantial attitude adjustment, possibly a few steps closer to #17. Doc had trouble managing him before but he similarly had trouble with Pierce and that worked out well.
The big danger would be to upset the developing chemistry and selfless attitude that characterizes this team. There are risks/rewards in all trades but the potential payoff just might be worth it “the third time around”!
by moskqq on Oct 25, 2007 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
“I much rather go after Chris Webber and P.J. Brown.”
Roger, that. Someone who can bang but pass out of the post.
by TenaciousD on Oct 25, 2007 5:31 PM EDT reply actions
Eh I look at it like this, there’s no way Antoine is a starter if he comes back here and due to the complete inability of the second unit to score on offense, I would welcome Antoine back to give us some points off the bench.
by celticspride003 on Oct 25, 2007 7:31 PM EDT reply actions
Brickowski said:
If McHale cuts Walker he’s a fool. Walker’s contract will be very valuable next year. Plus Walker and Jefferson like each other, plus Walker is probably the best point guard MN has.Foye can bring the ball up and give it to Walker. That’s all Foye is capable of doing anyway when it comes to running an NBA offense.
I agree with you except on one thing. Why would Foye bring the ball up and give it to Walker. Cut out the middle man and just have Walker bring it up. Actually, point guard could very well be ’Toine’s best position, especially on that team. You make an expecially good point on the value of Walker’s contract. Also, he’s the only vet on the team, as far as I know, and the point you make about he and Big Al is important.

Vice president of basketball operations Kevin McHale said he might not be done making moves. If nothing else, the Wolves have to trim at least three players off the roster to meet NBA rules. How McHale will do that remains to be seen. Another trade remains a possibility, along with waiving players and/or buying out contracts.
































