No extension for Tony

I’m very happy with this news.

I don’t think Tony is going to play himself into a large contract so we had little to gain by locking him up before he proves his fitness.

Hopefully and most likely the organization, Danny, made it clear that they think highly of him and expect to re-sign him next season.

I like this non-move. Let him play hungry and stay out of trouble. He wont get a huge over from anyone, so we will be able to keep him if we want to.

Is there anything from Tony’s play that makes you think that he thinks he is a bargain contract talent? When he steps on the court, it doesn’t matter who he is with, he forces the ball and tries to be the star. No way he considers a bargain contract.

I like this non-move as well. He hasn’t come back and shown he is anywhere close to the player he was, and even if he did I don’t think I sign him to much. We would be better off saving the cash to spend on a free agent if we don’t win the whole thing this year. We don’t need to be handcuffed by a tier 3 or 4 talent.

What was our extension option amount? Assuming Tony comes back at full strength—and based on his progress, I believe that will be the case—would he be a good deal next season at that price?

we need that cash to sign a future free agent, hopefully a center!

Keep Tony!

Tony has outstanding potential for greatness. He has shown glimpses of being that rare all-around talent on BOTH ends of the floor. Although he lacks ideal height, his superior athleticism allows him to play BIG.

On the “negative” side of the coin, he’s injury prone, lacks great handles (but that part of his game is improving), lacks consistency in both his midrange and outside shooting game (but that appears to be improving too). His biggest detriment is his penchant for making poor decisions.

Tony is an erratic but gifted “shotgun for hire”. You never know just what you’ll get but Danny needs to know if he will be a better complement to the “GAP” players or if another 3.5 million dollar player (salary guess) would be more suitable. We need more time to evaluate his post surgical health and see if he can survive a season without injury.

Would the Celtics be better with a James Posey type player or a Tony Allen type player? Will Brandon Wallace “blossom” into a bigger version of Tony Allen? Would the Celtics be better with TWO James Posey type players on the roster or TWO Tony Allen type players?

How can we judge Tony’s present worth before seeing whether he continues to demonstrate an upside or if he’s already reached his peak? Will waiting to extend Tony compromize our ability to sign him later?

Good move, T Allen not impressive this preseason. Wait and see is a good approach. R. Allen on the other hand- wait he’s already under contract, never mind.

PREDICTIONS:

Now that we all have had a chance to absorb the preseason, I think it would be fun to have predictions right now on what the season will be like for the Celts. We can look back next year and see who hit the nail on the head and who didn’t.

The prediction will be: how many regular season wins, and how far the Celts will go in the playoffs, finally which 2 teams meet in the finals and who wins it all. You need to take into account injuries, resting starter, teams tanking, etc. No excuses, factor it all in:

Celts: 58 W regular season
Playoffs: Celts make finals
Finals: Celts vs Spurs
NBA champs: Celts in 6 win NBA finals

moskqq – So if I understand your comment right, Tony is a person with ‘oustanding potential for greatness’’ on both ends of the floor, but is injury prone, can’t dribble, is inconsistent in both mid-range and outside shooting, and makes poor decisions?!

I think that was about exactly word-for word the write up on Michael Jordan as he came into the league. He basically sucks at everything but he has potential to be great on both ends of the floor…

Did you actually think about that before you posted? You usually have good posts, but that is about as bad as it gets on here!

You were at least right about Tony with the second half of what you said. He is an athletic waste of a roster spot with Posey on the team. He will sit the bench much of the time this year. His 1 out of 5 games that he looks like he is a player is not enough. He is GG without the up-front hype.

I’m as big a TA fan as there is on this site but this is the right move. TA hasn’t shown much in preseason, not offensively anyway. Would love to see him bounce back this year and be resigned to an amount that he justifies with his play the season.

I love the fact that people still doubt Tony. IMO it’s fine that the organization decided to wait a season to evaluate Tony’s contract situation, but people are wrong if they think that is any indication of how the organization feels about Tony or what they think his potential is. This season is definitely a “prove it” season for Tony and if I had to be, I would say that by the end of the season people will see how valuable he is.

alchemist- give us some specific examples of how ’’valuable’’ TA is?

Raef’s and Wally’s knees pretty much brought about last year’s 28 win season so the risk in waiting out Tony’s recovery was sort of an IQ test for Ainge.

I suspect the odds are against Tony’s regaining his ups or his quickness on both ends. That leaves not much on the table to secure a contract extension.

He would add a lot to the 2nd unit if he can get it going again. I’d sure like the old Tony guarding Arenas on opening night….