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SmithSpeaking as someone who (like Sam Smith) openly pined for Kevin Garnett for years, I can understand how he might be feeling bitter that his team didn't land the Big Ticket.  Still, that doesn't excuse this:

Garnett got a three-year, $56 million extension from Boston, which was said to be the deal breaker for Minnesota. Garnett wanted to remain with the Timberwolves, enjoying those long off-seasons, but owner Glen Taylor decided to stop overpaying for missing the playoffs and told GM Kevin McHale to get draft choices and salary relief.

At least four teams, including the Bulls, were said to have offered superior deals to the one Boston made, though McHale is telling people Al Jefferson will be a superstar. Of course, McHale is also telling people he's the Timberwolves' general manager, which few believe. ... Garnett, by the way, had 19 points, 16 rebounds and five steals Saturday as Boston opened the preseason with a win over Toronto in Italy. Ainge is said to have sent McHale another bouquet of roses.

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Let’s see……..

Al better than Luol Deng check.
Al better than Ben Gordon check.
Al better than the Bulls frontcourt check.

Yeah, I’m not seeing that better deal.

by CelticRebel on Oct 8, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

sam smith sucks…good for him, taking KG’s stats and leaving it at that. He “forgot” to compare it to Big Al’s 12 point, 17 rebound, 2 assist, 1 block effort in their win. big Al WILL be a superstar, barring some tragic career ending injury. How these people become national writers is beyond me.

by screwedupmaniac on Oct 8, 2007 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

It hurts to be an offseason L. :P

by Edgar on Oct 8, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

It was a stinker of a column, but I thought that was the only good part. The Bulls’ Garnett offer allegedly included Deng, Chandler, and the #2 pick that became Tyrus Thomas. That’s a pretty sweet deal, and when was the last time McHale was seen doing something right? Al Jefferson is a good player, but the only good one Boston traded for Garnett.

by hscs on Oct 8, 2007 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re going to see a lot more sour grapes as the season gets closer. I don’t believe that Chicago made a high offer for Garnett since Paxson seems to be content to let Chicago grow together. Notice how Sammy didn’t say exactly what that offer was.

Never believe half of what you read in the paper(or internet, or hear on the news), and view the other half with great skepticism.

by tmcdon on Oct 8, 2007 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

The offer I mentioned was originally reported in the Minny Star-Tribune some time ago, and Sam mentioned it in his column a while back as well.

by hscs on Oct 8, 2007 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Sam Smith looks like one of those old geezers that steals Sweet & Low packets from local diners.

by CelticsWhat35 on Oct 8, 2007 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

The bulls have tried to move Gordon since they drafted him. They tried to give us Gordon and their pg duhan for Al two years ago, the bulls would stil make that trade, and they would be better. I dont see the fear in the Bulls. Gordon is the next Crawford a guy who will never consistanly score 20 a game and shoots 8 for 21 when he does score it, the follows it up with three games of 10 points. . Wallace is breaking down and they paid him 10 more million dollars than a guy whos 10 years younger, a better rebounder right now, whose just as bad on offense. Thomas is going to be inconsistant, the only worry is Deng is usualy good on D against Paul but ph yea we now have KG, Ray, Posey, House……

by im right on Oct 8, 2007 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

The Bulls could have offered Ben Wallace, PJ Brown, Gordon, TT, Sefolosha and the Knicks pick for Garnett and Jaric, and I suppose that’s a comparable offer. But first, why would MN want Big Ben at his age? He’s not the kind of player a rebuilding team needs. And once the trading deadline passed it was all moot, because PJ Brown became untradeable at that point and the Bulls did noyt have the matching or expiring salaries to do the deal.

by Brickowski on Oct 8, 2007 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Bottom line is Al was the best player offered for KG. Everyone else included is just filler, but Al will be a real star.

by orrzor on Oct 8, 2007 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah wallace is getting up there in age as well as pj brown
on the other hand Big Al is just finally growing into his own
last yr he was putting up 21pts 11 reb the second half of the
season and he was just coming into his own and had no help
other than gomes and west since pp and perk were injured.
i expect Big Al to put up huge #s like 24ppg 12.7rpg 2.5apg
and 2bpg , so the bulls offer wasnt even close and we did give up 2 1st rnd picks, gg and gomes

by perk on Oct 8, 2007 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

And we care why exactly? I think we should all send McHale flowers. Why Not?

by ManUp on Oct 8, 2007 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

In the NBA when a trade is made the talk is always that the winner gets the best player. Instead of comparing KG & AL, let’s compare AL to whomever the Bulls would have offered. In doing so, AL would be the best player. You win with stars in the NBA, and AL has a legitmate chance to be one. Plus, AL is a low post player, which is far more difficult to find than a talented wing. TT & Deng might sound nice, but I’d take AL & GG, only because AL will be the stud out of all 4.

BTW, Sam Smith might be the worst NBA journalist I’ve ever read. His trade idea’s are beyond ridiculous. When I read his trash, I wonder who he has pictures of, cuz that man should not have a job doing what he’s does. He sucks.

by Real World on Oct 8, 2007 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve come up with the perfect name for our new trio.

by Don Babbitt on Oct 8, 2007 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Real World – If the offer included Deng, Chandler, and the pick the Wolves could have had Thomas, Aldridge, or Roy. That’s potentially 2 bigs Deng. Not a lot of post game there, but good size nonetheless. Jefferson has been an above average big man, but he hasn’t outperformed Deng or Chandler by a large margin.

by hscs on Oct 8, 2007 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Every time I see KG in green I tell myself I should get a McHale throwback jersey to pay tribute to Kev.

by Green Jello on Oct 8, 2007 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Aside from being bitter, he also can’t read a box score, apparently. “Five steals”? Not only did KG only register one steal, he didn’t register five anything in his whole stat line (http://www.nba.com/games/20071006/TORBOS/boxscore.html).

Still, I’d take Garnett’s numbers against the Raptors over Al’s against a Turkish squad any day (although Jefferson’s per48 numbers that game were nonetheless pretty great).

by MNExpat on Oct 8, 2007 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

hscs said:
  It was a stinker of a column, but I thought that was the only good part. The Bulls’ Garnett offer allegedly included Deng, Chandler, and the #2 pick that became Tyrus Thomas. That’s a pretty sweet deal, and when was the last time McHale was seen doing something right? Al Jefferson is a good player, but the only good one Boston traded for Garnett.

October 08, 2007

Interesting. That sounds sweet, but it fails to mention -considering the salaries don’t match – what kind of garbage Minni would have to take back and for how many years.

 Anyways, big men that like to play in the post with AL’s skills are rare. I can’t see why KMacHale wanted Big AL. Besides, you can’t build around Deng or much less around Tyrus or Chandler, but you sure can build around Big AL

by cocofan on Oct 8, 2007 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

“Five steals”? Not only did KG only register one steal, he didn’t register five anything in his whole stat line

It was reported on ESPN, I think, that he had five steals. This is Sam Smith not wanting to do more work than reading a game recap.

Also, I’m sure the Timberwolves saw the Bulls and recognized how far you can go without a dominant low post player (which is: not very) then made the best deal they could.

by Robb @ CelticsBlog on Oct 8, 2007 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t see why KMacHale wanted Big AL.

Ooops, I meant to say: I can see why……

by cocofan on Oct 8, 2007 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

KG wasn’t the only one with 16 rebounds Saturday…

by Hondo to Rondo on Oct 8, 2007 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Robb – I said “included”, the 3 players I mentioned were just the main bargaining chips. The remaining contracts to make it work are debatable, but the expiring or soon to be expiring contracts the Bulls had included: Michael Sweetney, Othella Harrington, Eric Piatkowski, Tim Thomas, and Darius Songaila. Salaries would have matched with a mixture of those players.

As far as Sam’s Garnett stats go, the ESPN recap was probably posted before official box score data was available. And where’s all this dominant talk coming from? Jefferson has had 3 above average seasons, but nothing worthy of the ‘dominant’ label. As far as scoring goes, his career high 19.1 PTS/40 last season isn’t off the charts.

by hscs on Oct 8, 2007 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

KG was looking to get out….so the Timberwolves took the best deal on the table…We know about Al..but let’s not underestimate Gomes…and who knows they might get 6 months out of Theo…the other deals that were mentioned didn’t come close to what the C’s offered…history will decide if we got the best end of the deal..I suspect that we did..

by Fastbreak on Oct 8, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Jefferson had three good months of putting up numbers in historical losses. I’ve never understood the fascination with him nor have i ever seen the All-Star upside in his game. He’s going to put up numbers this year on another 60-loss team simply because someone has to score and rebound on the floor. Pervis Ellison was a 20/10 guy one year, numbers on bad teams don’t prove anything.

We should all be ecstatic that McHale got suckered into giving up Kevin Garnett in exchange for one good PF, a decent frontcourt player and a bunch of garbage.

by HRB on Oct 8, 2007 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the Wolves will win more games this year than they did last year with Garnett.

by Brickowski on Oct 8, 2007 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow. I actually though the column was pretty entertaining. It’s funny to see all the Celtic fans bash the poor guy. Relax.

by Mr Freeze on Oct 8, 2007 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d love to see what those other teams “superior packages” are! Noah, Thomas and Sefolosha?

Jefferson IS gonna be a superstar, at the very least he’s a Zach Randolph that is sane and more under control (plus taller), more likely gonna be a taller bigger Elton Brand.

I absolutely believe in Big Al 100%, he WILL be a superstar and Mchale made a SMART move going for him. He is gonna have a franchise big man to build around for the next 10-14 years.

by celtpride34pp20ra5kg on Oct 8, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s mad because he KNOWS that the bulls chances got SQUASHED (of making the finals, they never had a shot at actually winning a ring with no frontcourt) once the Celtics landed KG.

by celtpride34pp20ra5kg on Oct 8, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

’’It was reported on ESPN, I think, that he had five steals. This is Sam Smith not wanting to do more work than reading a game recap.

Also, I’m sure the Timberwolves saw the Bulls and recognized how far you can go without a dominant low post player (which is: not very) then made the best deal they could.’’

I agree robb.

by celtpride34pp20ra5kg on Oct 8, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Garnett didn’t have 5 steals. Check out the NBA box score, I notice it differed significantly from the Yahoo Sports one, for example.

by kozlodoev on Oct 8, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Even if Jefferson isn’t a dominant low post player at this point, he has a better chance of becoming one than anyone on the Bulls.

by Robb @ CelticsBlog on Oct 8, 2007 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Hope Al rips Chicago a new one…

And Gomes & GMoney too

by Green_Lantern on Oct 9, 2007 6:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought the more interesting quote was the one that had the Twolves owner saying they didn’t want Telfair but Boston made it a demand. That really shows you the zero confidence the C’s had in Telfair and what a dopey move Ainge made bringing him in.

 At this point you’ve got to give Danny good grades for the roster we have this year but he did bring in Raef, Wally, Theo, Telfair, Dickau, Jiri Welsch, Jones, Jones, Jones (Mike, Damon, Jumaine). And whoever I’m forgetting. He did get value back for some thanks to his uncanny talent pick ups late in the draft and to the other dim wits sitting in GM seats.

by Wildblu1 on Oct 9, 2007 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I actually emailed him before I saw this post. What a clown.

by bf17290 on Oct 9, 2007 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s good to be the (King) or in this case the 07-08 Celtics. Am I counting my chickens before they hatch, sure, but it is going to be good, real good this year!

by docextension on Oct 9, 2007 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

It should be fun actually having good perimeter D this year when facing Da Bulls

by Tradetime on Oct 9, 2007 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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