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Celts vs Nets Recap

After finally getting back from the splendor that is the Izod Center (that is a ridiculous sponsorship by the way), I have a few thoughts following seeing the team live for the first time.  If you're looking for a detailed recap check out the AP story

  • The Izod Center is d-e-a-d dead.  The most prominent banner they have hanging up is that Bruce has played there 35 times.  Just an embarrassment.  I would say the stadium was 30-40% Celtics fans. 
  • Tommy appeared to be snoozing on the bench about 30 minutes before the game.  He was sitting alone and barely stirred.  Maybe he was just thinking of new exclamations to shout out when there is a bad call.  He definitely could have used them tonight.
  • I can't describe in words the joy that is seeing KG in a Celtics jersey. 
  • It was great to see Doc at the game. Tough day for the Rivers family. 
  • The 1st quarter was very uneven by the Cs.  As I recall lots of bad fouls, weird offensive sets and a general slop factor one typically sees on game 2 of a back to back.
  • Pierce was scoreless in the first quarter, but came alive, and along with Ray help to nose the Celts ahead at the half. 
  • Joe Derosa and Jack Nies really made a concerted effort to blow the whistle a second or two after the play.  Some of those were bad calls, some were annoyingly late.  KG was right to get that technical, the whistle was way late for about the 4th time in a row.
  • TA has a rough game with some poor defense - the Nets really attack him and make him look bad, even last season.  He also totally messed up one offensive set as Rondo shoved him into the right position on the court. 
  • The half time entertainment was brought to us by a former NBA player who now has his on smooth-jazz album.   Who is this player....?  Wayman Tisdale .  Yeah that Wayman Tisdale .  Totally random and totally amusing.  He wasn't bad.  Unfortunately it appears that Wayman permanently walks with a cane.  Wayman also caught a t-shirt during a tv timeout.  (now there is some biting insight you won't see in the globe or herald tomorrow) 
  • How about that Big Baby Davis!!!  Despite the 6 fouls, 2 of which were lousy call, BBD was fantastic on the glass, had a few good passes and generally was very impressive. 
  • I didn't really keep track, but it appeared that Rajon got stuffed 4 times tonight?  Not his best night, but he hit his jumper tonight which is great to see.
  • Ray Allen is so smooth, you barely notice that he's got as many points as he does.  He is so much better than I expected he would be. 
  • Wince Carter's ankle sprain happened right in front of me.  It was gross to watch and looked quite painful. 
  • The run up to 20 points again was joyous.  This is a fun team to watch.  Pierce appeared to zone in for a few moments stroking some nice 3s. 
  • The ride back down to the final outcome wasn't really that tense for me.  I never felt the Celtics were in any real trouble, although I was not pleased that Eddie House decided to leave Darrel Armstrong on a few late possessions which turned into 3s. 
I strongly urge everyone to get a ticket and get to a game in person.  To steal a quote from Ferris Bueller "It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."

 

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by Edgar on Nov 11, 2007 1:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the recap and the beat goes on.

by bceltfan on Nov 11, 2007 1:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just imagine how good they could be if/when Perkins, Rondo and Davis stop being treated so poorly by the refs. Even Garnett has had 4-5 amazing calls against him. I must admit I am troubled as to why Ray Allen doesn’t get some rest by Doc when we’re so far ahead. 48 minutes?? We have about 14 back to backs this year and on about two thirds of them, the second game is on the road. I’m not sure anybody should be played so much in the second game of a back to back, much less our oldest starter.

by Celtic Steve on Nov 11, 2007 2:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I really like Wayman Tisdale, have two of his albums.

by Who on Nov 11, 2007 3:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

it was a bit disturbing seeing Garnett manhandled by Sean Williams…. I do hope we don’t play KG too much at center….we don’t want to see him injured at this point of the season… so let’s get him some linebacker help ….DAVIS was a nice surprise tonight ;)

by celtpinoy on Nov 11, 2007 3:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sean Williams was impressive. They need to start him.

by Who on Nov 11, 2007 4:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good recap. Yes, the Nets should just move their homegames to Rutgers or anywhere they’ll attract a crowd with a pulse. There is usually ‘a crowd’ there whenever I’ve gone for C’s games and that means it’s about half full. Sad.

I agree that Garnett at center has to be the last option. He doesn’t like playing that position & typically gets abused by bigger, more physical opponents. Hopefully Pollard will be able to spell Perk at least 10-20 mpg, so it will be a non-issue.

Playing the Three more than 35mpg will have long term effects. Hopefully Doc & his staff figure that out quickly and start to curb their minutes.

Looking forward to see how both teams respond on Wednesday…

by LuckyNumber07 on Nov 11, 2007 6:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ray Allen – 48.
Kevin Garnett – 43.

No, I didn’t get the points wrong. That’s the minutes each played in this game.

This was the second half of a back to back. By the fourth quarter, KG did not look like KG – he missed some rebounds I’m used to seeing him get, and he missed Js the way players do when their legs start to go.

Ray, I wasn’t so focused on. But no matter how good his surgery and rehab went, I don’t think 48 is someplace we ought to be going in November.

Doc: fix this.

by TedL on Nov 11, 2007 6:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, they won the game with defense— by holding the Nets to zero field goals for the first 8 minutes of the 3rd quarter. That’s impressive.

And they did it without Scalabrine! What a shocka! In fact, it was so miraculous that I’ve decided to start watching the Catholic channel. Maybe those people are onto something.

Actually, if Glenn Davis had gotten one or two more offensive rebounds and blocked another shot, he might have surpassed Scalabrine’s yearly totals in those two categories.

by Brickowski on Nov 11, 2007 8:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

“it would greatly benefit the club come play-off time to take some lumps with Big Baby now. He has more upside than Brian Scalabrine and Leon Powe combined”

Indeed. And maybe Doc sees it, since BBD was the first fwd off the bench,

by TenaciousD on Nov 11, 2007 8:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tisdale is considered one of the best jazz (smooth) bassist in the business..he actually has a couple of number one hits..I know TA is still recovering but, I noticed that he showed some positive signs after being on the court for a few minutes..I haven’t given up on him yet…Davis stepped up…for the second time at the Izod ..let’s hope it continues…if Sean Williams stays out of trouble he will be a force for the Nets..

by Fastbreak on Nov 11, 2007 8:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am embarrased to say I fell asleep while in the chat. Good lord. Happy to wake up (at all) and even happier to wake up 5-0. Still hate the Nets, glad their seats are empty.

Thanks for the recap – did yoy get me a t-shirt?

  :)

by Master Po on Nov 11, 2007 9:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Couple thoughts:
>I’m pretty happy with Rondo and Perk so far. Rondo needs to figure out how to protect the ball with his body on those layups, but he consistently looked like the fastest guy on the floor last night.
>As great as BBD looked he’ll get better. He’ll get more aggressive on the boards. I also thought he’d be more of a defensive liability that he was. I’m surprised Doc didn’t sit KG more since him and Perk looked so good out there together.
>Didn’t catch this until I saw the box score but Doc played an 8 man only rotation. Who would’ve guessed he knew how to do that.
>The Nets arena is just about the worst place to see a sporting event of any kind. Huge ugly concrete box in the middle of nowhere. Bad crowd. Bad vibe. I say moving that team to Brooklyn will be worth 5 wins for them.
>Gonna see the C’s live vs. the Warriors. I’m pretty fired up. Hopefully, they’ll still be undefeated by then. :)

by mattyweb on Nov 11, 2007 9:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

celtpinoy said:
  it was a bit disturbing seeing Garnett manhandled by Sean Williams….

KG wasn’t “manhandled” by Williams. He was consistently fouled by Williams. Williams should have been out of the game within 5 minutes of coming in. Those refs were point-shaving. No, I really shouldn’t say that. They just stunk up the place.

by TrueGreen on Nov 11, 2007 9:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Darrell Armstrong has always been an inspiration to me, primarily for how he has willed himself from nowhere to a lengthy NBA career. And he’s still effective at 39 years of age. He definitely schooled Rondo on more than one occasion. Hopefully Rajon learns from these lessons. I’m still stumping for a Keith McLeod on The C’s. I like the offense and energy House brings but he’s not a point guard. Maybe some veteran help will be available around the trade deadline.

Doc needs to learn how to not wear out his shiny new toys. It’s a long season.

I was hoping Danny would buy a pick in the last draft to take Sean Williams. He’s got a ton of talent.

The refs have been pretty bad in nearly every game I’ve watched this year – all of the Celtics and Spurs, three of the Jazz and a some other assorted teams. Very inconsistent with plenty of “where did that come from” calls. There were a couple of times last night when all ten players on the court looked around wondering who the foul was on.

Doc appears to be reluctant to rest Garnett by subbing Perkins when the opponent has gone small. I don’t see any reason why he shouldn’t.

by lemonadesky on Nov 11, 2007 9:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was there last night. Green17, if Vince went down right in front of you, then I was sitting not too far away. I was 3rd row right behind the C’s bench on the aisle. Ray Allen threw a deflected pass that wizzed right over my head into the stands.

I agree the nets fans are pathetic. At least 8,000 empty seats.

by green18 on Nov 11, 2007 9:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t realize last night that Ray played the entire game. Poor choice Doc.

My guess is that Doc was planning to sit the starters but the Nets mini comeback wrecked that plan.

Sean Williams didn’t seem overly impressive in person. He, like Josh Boone, really just beat KG up with no foul calls. At one point in the 3rd Boone hit KG in the ear, he looked pretty annoyed.

by Green17 on Nov 11, 2007 9:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

One more thing: If you were a casual fan watching the game last night who didn’t follow the offseason at all would you ever believe that Pierce, Perk, Rondo, and T. Allen were the only guys on the C’s who had ever played together before? (And for only parts of a season at that.) I don’t know who to give credit to. The vets? The coaching? Simply amazing.

by mattyweb on Nov 11, 2007 9:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

mattyweb, I would give the credit to the players and the Coach. The players came together on their own and started working a month before pre-season. Just listen to some of Tom Thibodeau’s remarks and the remarks from the players last nite when Doc came in the dressing room to know how much the Coach means to this team.

by TrueGreen on Nov 11, 2007 9:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

too much small ball at the end. nj has crummy fans but a smart good team who will stay near us to the end barring injury.

by nazzbo on Nov 11, 2007 10:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes Rondo got blocked a lot but something tells me he’ll make the right adjustments. Keep going to the hoo, young man.
Tony Allen seems another case. Magnificent natural talent which we’ll see hopefully by Jan. But he looks so clueless at times. I doublt he can figure his way out of anything.
Herniated disk doesn’t sound like nothing to me re Posey. That would be a real blow if it becomes a Ratliff degree back problem.
Gerald Green not getting off bench for the train wreck Timberwolves is not a good sign for him but I still think he’ll get it some day and be an ass-kicker of a player.
5-0. Our Boston Celtics! Instead of watching the Suns and saying “I wish we had a team like that” we DO have a team like that.
Danny, I don’t know whether it was luck or smarts but you did it.

by Wildblu1 on Nov 11, 2007 12:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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