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Celtics Face Tough Magic Team in Orlando

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Boston Celtics (8-0) at Orlando Magic (8-2)
Sunday, November 18
6:00 PM ET
TV: CSN, NBA TV HD, Sun Sports HD
Amway Arena

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Keys to the Game
 
Limit Turnovers.  The Celtics committed 18 turnovers against the Heat and that is too many.  We will need to take care of the basketball and limit our turnovers against the Magic because they will convert those turnovers to points.  
 
Defense    The Celtics will need to play better defense against the Magic than they did against the Heat.  They allowed the Heat to shoot 47% and allowed them to erase a 15 point lead.  KG and Perk especially have to try to limit the damage that Howard can do in the paint.  I can see Posey on Lewis for his defense and Rondo will have to defend the very quick Jameer Nelson. 

Control the tempo.  Rondo will need to try to control the tempo of the game and not allow the Magic to run. Limiting turnovers could help in this area as well.   

Game Notes:   The Magic are coming off of a big 95-70 win over the Nets.  They are a very strong team and have won 3 in a row and 8 out of 10 overall and have a lot of confidence coming into this game.  Strangely, their two losses have come at home.   The Celtics will need to bring their A game in order to beat the Magic in their arena.  Dwight Howard has been a force and Rashard Lewis has been playing very well.  This game will be a test for this team and could very well be our first loss if the Celtics play like they did against the Heat.

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Probable Starting Matchups
PG:  Rajon Rondo  vs Jameer Nelson 
SG:  Ray Allen  vs Keith Bogans
SF:  Paul Pierce  vs Hedo Turkoglu
PF:  Kevin Garnett  vs Rashard Lewis
C:   Kendrick Perkins  vs  Dwight Howard 
 
Key Matchups
Vs 
Kevin Garnett  6'11"  PPG 21 | RPG 14 | BPG 1.4
Rashard Lewis     6'10"  PPG 20.7 | RPG 4.8 | BPG 0.1
  Vs 
Kendrick Perkins   6'10"   PPG 6.4 | RPG 5.1 | BPG 2.1
Dwight Howard  6'11"  PPG 21.9 | RPG 14.6 | BPG 2.6
The Magic like to score in the paint and it will be up to Perk and KG to defend the basket and keep them out on the perimeter.   Perk doesn't play as well against quick and mobile centers like Howard and so will need some help from KG to defend against him. 
 
Key off the Bench
For the Celtics, it will be James Posey.  He was a difference maker against the Heat and his defense will be needed against the Magic.  
For the Magic it will be Carlos Arroyo who has played well against the Celtics and can put up points for the Magic off the bench.   

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I am very nervous about this game. I have a feeling that THE STREAK will end tonight! D. Howard has been a beast … and will cause Perk & KG to be foul trouble. I hope I’m wrong …

by TheGreenThumb on Nov 18, 2007 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

This is an away game, so I would expect Doc to manage the mins appropriately…..not

Prediction: KG/PP/RA will be exhausted with 5mins to go and Orlando making a big push.

by cocofan on Nov 18, 2007 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

The pundits are always fighting the last war and always projecting the seaon based on last year. With the declining skills of Ben Wallace and the cloud of Kobe hanging over Chicago, LaBron’s supporting package having disintigrated, and Detroit being a year older and with Shaq being next to useless at his age and weight in Miami, I think it is safe to say the “experts” got the east all wrong. The teams Boston needs to beat to win the East are not Miami, Chicago and Clevland but Orlando, Toronto and maybe the Washington. Orlando is really good. I would not be surprised if tonight is a preview of the Eastern Conference Finals.

by JohnCK on Nov 18, 2007 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t believe you can project an Eastern Conference Finals match-up this early. I truly feel Miami will be a force to be reckoned with the second half of the season. Shaq will get his act together and Wade is a first-team all-star type player. Chicago has started very poorly before and turned things around. Cleveland rode their defense to the East title last year and is capable of doing that again. Detroit may be a year older but so what? Their top players aren’t any older than the Celtics’ top three.

It’s all about coming together as a team and doing it night in and night out. That’s the way Cleveland played last year, especially from the halfway mark on through the playoffs. That’s when it happened for Toronto as well. It’s just too soon to tell right now.

by lemonadesky on Nov 18, 2007 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

“Control the tempo. Rondo will need to try to control the tempo of the game and not allow the Magic to run. Limiting turnovers could help in this area as well.”

Seeing as how the Celtics (91.4 – 15th) and Magic (93.5 – 11th) have played a similar tempo so far this season, this doesn’t make any sense.

by green76 on Nov 18, 2007 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

green76m ppg isn’t a good measure of tempo, you should look at shot attempts. The magic have taken 79.7/game and the Cs have taken 74.5/game. Right now the Celtics have played the 2nd slowest pace in the NBA. (The nets just edge us out with 74.4/game) The warriors are the leagues fastest paced team putting up 87.9 shot attempts. But as you said, the magic are definitely in the lower half of the NBA, so I don’t think tempo will be a big problem.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/stats/byteam?&cat1=Total&cat2=team&conference=NBA&year=season_2007&sort=235

by FrieCod on Nov 18, 2007 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

FrieCod, those aren’t point per game stats. They are what they say they are – offensive pace rating numbers.

source: http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2008/

by green76 on Nov 18, 2007 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

And as you can see, FrieCod, the number of shot attempts alone are meangingless when it comes to determining offensive pace.

Your method is 100% faulty. The Nets are actually slightly slower than the Celts.

Where the heck did you get shots per game as a determining factor of pace? That is the silliest thing that I’ve ever heard.

by green76 on Nov 18, 2007 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

Rondo will not get beat by Nelson. Nelson isn’t all that scary. Perk will get in foul trouble I think and maybe Big Baby and Pollard can lean on Howard and keep KG off him. Lewis will get his points but Howard or Turkoglu can beat us. Should be a good one

by Wildblu1 on Nov 18, 2007 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

LET’S GO C’S 9-0 BABY!!!!

by Mogreen17 on Nov 18, 2007 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

Well. as Nelson and Arroyo go, so go the Magic. Howard is not a skilled offensive player— just an athletic bruiser— and neither Hedo Turkoglu nor Rashard Lewis put the ball on the floor very well. They are spot up shooters who rely on the guards to get them good looks or easy baskets in transition.

Orlando’s problem is that Rashard Lewis can’t guard KG. He can’t even pretend to guard him.

by Brickowski on Nov 18, 2007 5:05 PM EST reply actions  

WOW please we need to cut Tony he is just a mess missing layups at key moments, you just can’t do that in the NBA. Maybe in high school….

by streetsdreamer13 on Nov 18, 2007 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

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