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Celtics Are "Punks?"

I'm not trying to start a blog war here, so don't go over and flame this guy's site.  However, he put it out there, so I'm going to pass it on for you to read and either agree with or disagree with (with civility and class I hope).

Believing In Magic says...

It was a playoff atmosphere in Orlando as the Magic (9-2) beat the punks from Boston (8-1) 104-102 Sunday night. That’s right, I said punks. The Magic overcame Celtic cheap shots, questionable officiating, and not to mention the wrath of three tremendous All-Stars, to give the Magic a tremendous W.

I called the Celtics punks and I’m sure some Boston fans might get mad, but from my perspective that’s exactly what they were, so I will validate my claim. I understand going to the "Hacka Howard" technique and I advocate delivering tough fouls, but the Celtics took plenty of cheap shots. Goons like Scott Pollard and Brian Scalabrine came in and fouled Dwight, which again, I get. However, they didn’t just foul him, they grabbed by the neck and pulled him down hard. Kendrick Perkins had two hands around Howard at one point and looked like he was tackling him. Then after these fouls, the Celtics had the nerve to whine and cry to the referees…

I was proud of the way Dwight handled himself. Usually he is smiling and joking but he wasn’t against the Celtics. Dwight got hacked on plenty of occasions and he made sure the Celtics didn’t get away with it as he shoved them off. In fact, Howard got in several altercations after some specifically hard fouls. He still kept at it and really developed as a player last night, showing mental and physical toughness against a great team…

By the way, hat tip to Green Bandwagon that found the link first.

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Honestly Thats Garbage, were a tough team that plays tougher defense than most teams in this league…Dwight needs to stop being such a baby and take hard fouls like a man, its basketball, dont be such a little girl. We were just playing hard.

by southieceltic33 on Nov 19, 2007 10:23 PM EST reply actions  

I can’t wait to smoke them next game. They should be grateful they got 1 against us because that’s probably the only one they’re getting.

by tb727 on Nov 19, 2007 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe this guy missed Rondo getting annihilated… TWICE. I also get a kick out of the “questionable officiating” claim. Maybe he had his TV turned off during the second quarter. That was fun. The refs were calling fouls on the Celtics before the ball even passed halfcourt. I thought that we got some breaks in the second half from the refs, but not many. How about the breaks that Howard got? Twice he was allowed to take a shot at a Celtic after foul. Not flagrant fouls, mind you. Run on the mill, across the arm hacks. Oh well, we get to see them again. I wonder if they are aware that when you leave Ray as wide open as he was in that game, that you usually lose… badly.

by MikeDfromNP on Nov 19, 2007 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

Seems to me he didn’t handle it so well. ;D
He had a pretty tame 2nd. half.

As for the Celtics playing “tough.” It’s about time. ;)

by JB_Celticsstuff on Nov 19, 2007 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

Well if your going to foul, foul hard dont let them a chance at an and 1 play. Its not exactly rocket science. If they were flagrant they would have been called.

by celtsfan349 on Nov 19, 2007 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

First who knew the Magic even had fans? Let alone fans who blogged.

But really? Punks? The bitterness is shocking. That’s just tacky.

I can’t wait for the rematch.

by Green17 on Nov 19, 2007 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

Scali the Goon. Why didn’t we think of that nickname?

by Wide Load on Nov 19, 2007 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

why is this garbage on our site, let him write it and share it with the other 2 fans of that mickey mouse ball club

by goCeltics on Nov 19, 2007 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, give me a break. Scal came in and simply grabbed Dwight’s jersey before he took off so he didn’t connect on an alley-oop. That’s a normal play that happens in almost every NBA game. So, what does Dwight do? Turns around and pushes Scal. Why? Because he stopped his SportsCenter highlight?

Then Pollard put a body on him down low. Yeah… get used to it Dwight. You don’t need to throw bows at him because he doesn’t let you dominate the glass and dunk 11 times like most teams do.

We weren’t punks, and Dwight isn’t a punk either. That Magic fan said Dwight handled himself, though, and I disagree. No need to push and throw elbows around just because you were fouled. He wasn’t significantly hacked to the point where it was even close to a hard foul… so why get angry?

Dwight had a chip on his shoulder from the start of the game.

by CelticBalla32 on Nov 19, 2007 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

This magic fan is just trying to get attention to his blog, just like gilbert.

After years, his team is finally winning some games and right now is in the top positions of the East. They handed the team of the moment their first loss and he feels the Celtics are worth nothing because of that and because of a couple of tough fouls.

That’s funny. Ray Allen is one of the classiest guys around, no one plays more quiet than Rondo. Pollard just does his job, hey guys like Bruce Bowen or Raja Bell also do dirty work like he does, and a lot more frequently. I think DH is a heck a of a player and a heck of a guy but I think this fan is also upset because we got away with the “hack Dwight” strategy as he was not able to knock down the FTs.

I respect the Orlando Magic and it was a good game for them, first half to them, second half to the C’s, they won it but also almost lost it. The guy should shut up, it’s just one single game of the regular season. Went to far saying our team is full of punks. We are still first and have the better team anyway. Time will tell we do.

C’s are the best team right now and have always had the most die hard fans anywhere. This punk started cheering 3 weeks ago.

by Dirk on Nov 19, 2007 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

Well said goC’s

by Dirk on Nov 19, 2007 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

It seems odd. The guy calls the Celtics punks and goons, and then a great team. Maybe in his opinion, every great team employs punks and goons. (And I thought the Celtics weren’t supposed to have a bench.)

by no kidding on Nov 19, 2007 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

what a joke…

Howard was like, “How dare they foul me!!!”

throwing elbows on legit fouls.

by winsomme on Nov 19, 2007 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

It is just amazing how us fans see things; is it not?

by Bill Walton on Nov 19, 2007 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

Rashard Lewis grabbed KG as he was going for an Alley Oop…same thing Scal did to Howard but KG was a man about it unlike Dwight Howard. These Magic fans are an absolute joke. Wait till they go on their second half collapse like last season.

by Andrew Celtic Nation on Nov 20, 2007 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

Both teams played hard and fouled hard. That is nothing new. Howard just got hit harder because he goes up the hardest and we can’t allow 3 pt plays. Rondo got hit the hardest though on the night.

The refs were fine. Of course not perfect — they never will be. But the game was decided by the players and we missed the shots that we needed in the end.

Bowen and Artest are goons. Scal and Pollard are pretty above the board with their fouls. They do not try to sneak in cheap shots.

by guava_wrench on Nov 20, 2007 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

I won’t say anything other than this…

Howard was called for just two three second violations, yet I know he hung around the paint by himself much more often than that. Consistency is just something I find lacking in officiating, the young ref did not earn any brownie points with me for his late calls, for(once) or against(several) the Celtics.

CsfanNH

by CsfanNH on Nov 20, 2007 1:28 AM EST reply actions  

the name of his blog is “believing in magic”

do i honestly have to say anything else? it would be like if celticsblog were called something like “pot of gold at the end of me rainbow” or something.

the orlando magic’s legacy is being completely owned in 1995, and being introduced in houston while “it’s a small world” blared over the intercom.

when penny hardaway is the second biggest superstar in franchise history, you have issues.

scalabrine is goon? priceless!

by blazingarrow on Nov 20, 2007 1:40 AM EST reply actions  

 Can Magic fans say collapse? Enjoy now, you will do the same as last year! COLLAPSE!!! ;D

by celtics1 on Nov 20, 2007 1:47 AM EST reply actions  

we’re all entitled to an opinion but if my team won, I’d hesitate to complain about “questionable officiating” when my team got the benefit of 33 fouls, and 44 free throws, and the Celtics got 21 calls, and only 26 free throws. Two major Celtics contributors, Garnett and Posey, fouled out when the most fouls against any Orlando player was four.

I honestly got the feeling that the only reason Howard got upset was because the hard foul came from the lowly Scalabrine. If it had been Garnett, Posey, Pierce, Perk or even Pollard, he probably wouldn’t have reacted at all. He certainly didn’t get grabbed and thrown down.

by Celtic Steve on Nov 20, 2007 1:50 AM EST reply actions  

I really hope we see them in a playoff series. It wouldn’t go more than 5 games. From what I heard on the radio the only punk in the game was Howard, every altercation he was involved. That being said I like Howard and think he is a great player. I’m just going with the facts on this one.

by ma11l on Nov 20, 2007 2:27 AM EST reply actions  

If Scalabrine and Pollard make us look like punks because they simple kept Howard from getting And 1’s, then this magic guys perception of “Punks” is really offset, maybe from being picked on as a child, I don’t know…As for Howard, he was the punk; Howard never was clotheslined every foul was a wrap em’ up bear hug to keep his massive arms down, he must have understood what was going on, yet he was retaliating as if we were trying to personally attack him. None of the fouls ever sent him to the ground; he’s such a big guy, that if he were to think those fouls were hard he needs to question his manhood.
Other than that, Nelson and Howard are two of my favorite none Celtics and I don’t want my perception of the Orlando team to be effected by a blogger who probably has never personally experienced what Celtics fans went through last year.

by RickyDavisfor3 on Nov 20, 2007 6:33 AM EST reply actions  

Its hilarious to read a recap from a guy who was OBVIOUSLY not at the game.

The Refs gave Howard EVERY CALL. Rashard Lewis was a waste of $100million. The only reason Pollard came in at all was because the refs seemed determined to get KG out on fouls.

I was there, sitting right behind the bench. If there was a single “punk” on the floor, it was Howard! I love the kid and think he is a beast, but for people who complained about Shaq’s elbows for years, wait until they watch this kid. His elbows fly in such a dangerous manner.

As for your praise of how he handled it…. LOL, now I KNOW you weren’t at the game. THat little shyte threw a huge elbow and then shoved Perkins after the play…. but somehow Garnett got called for a tech even though he was 20 feet away.

It was a great game, but the Magic did not earn it at all and should have lost.

by DivingCowens on Nov 20, 2007 8:06 AM EST reply actions  

small market thinker.

by johnnymost on Nov 20, 2007 9:08 AM EST reply actions  

Obviously Disneyworld was closed this day in Orlando, and this young boy needed a fantnsy outlet. I say embrace his fantasy!!! Little does he know that the guy he calls a goon (Scali) is really a portable amusement park ride in Boston called Vanilla Thunderdome.

by Master Po on Nov 20, 2007 9:26 AM EST reply actions  

And a very expensive amusement ride at that. Our old “Vanilla Thundrdome” has a ticket price of three million dollars a year for the next three years. Anyway, the outraged Orlando blogger’s brayings reminds me of that old ditty we used to say as kids: “It takes one to know one.”

by halfman/halfoyster on Nov 20, 2007 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

Having punks and goons is how you win championships. Ask San Antonio. ;D

by Bankshot on Nov 20, 2007 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with you tb727, let them go through the upcoming rematch and we’ll be seeing lots of changes. This is still a brand new team and they are already smokin’.

by Albert_c on Nov 20, 2007 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

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