Allen Hits Game Winner!

yyeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh baby!!!!!

glad we could see it.

Yeah, the feed crapped out at the worst possible time.

Do you guys who live in Boston realize how lucky you are to get the local feed with Mike and Tommy for every game? Tommy brings a whole new element to the game. I love the guy.

Pierce sucked today. His shot was WEAK. Looked like he had the flu, or just didn’t care. Just tossing it up. And what was with that stupid isolation at the end of overtime? Just dumb basketball.

Refs sucked, too. NBA has to do something about the officiating. Perk gets whistled just for being on the court.

yeah happened to with like 7 seconds left in OT >:( but i got sound rest of game and heard the whole thing :)

thanks comcast, thanks.

oops—I meant stupid isolation at the end of regulation.

Terrible 4th quarter. The game should never have gone into overtime. The Celtics were bad, and the officials were worse.

KG put up some huge assists after coming back in late in the 4th, then scored like a champ in OT……. and it was all with 5 fouls!

Get used to this Boston fans… he will be a treat for several years.

I agree. Terrible Calls, especially in the fourth. The Call on Pose seeting the pic for House was a joke.

as was KG’s 5th foul. He bends backward to avoid contact… Bosh jumps/leans on his… foul on KG.

will we get the end of the game in the replay tomorrow?

You can just watch the enda the game on espn.com in like a couple hours

I’ll take the ugly win against that team anyday

I meant stupid isolation at the end of regulation

With 25 left on the clock and a tied game, it makes sense to dribble out the clock and put up a shot, rather than pass it around and lose it with 8 seconds or so. You give up a layup and – bang – there goes the ball game.

It has been a long time to see 3 great players control the outcome of the game.
Go Celtics

Some of the worst officiating I’ve seen in the NBA in years. The foul call on the Posey pick was absolutely atrocious. I’ve been tossed a few times myself, and I guarantee you if I’d been on the Boston bench that would have been it for me.

You would have thought the officials had money on the Raptors. But that’s impossible, right?

 ;D

Rondo struggled throughout and we struggled on the glass bad in the first half. Perk played hard and Posey and House will be real solid off the bench this year. I know TA is still rusty but I am discouraged with his play. His defense is off and decision making skills have not improved.

I cannot understand why Rondo guarded Ford turned sideways all the time. There was one possession during which Rondo literally turned to the sideline, Ford simply dribbled to the basket behind his back for an easy layup. And all that right in front of Thibodeau. What the…

I think we have the beginnings of a good rivalry here

yowzer- what a nice win. brick- toronto is a real good team. ford owned rondo. kapono is a great pickup as is delfino who did not show much today but will. and garbojosa will be getting more time. i am a steadfast c’s fan but i do like the raptors. that being said, did kg take over in overtime or what. thibedeau showed patience, showed good faith in house and posey. ray allen is just too smooth. the defense was hard fought on both teams causing some ugly offense, and yes the ugliest thing on the floor was the refs’ calls.i think rondo will get better playing d on ford- maybe- but he was not so hot on offense. it sure is nice to win.

Agreed on Allen. Two games in is too early for a judgment, but the early returns aren’t very positive.

Ray Allen’s winning shot and highlights of game are on nba.com home page just click on the basketball.

http://www.nba.com/games/20071104/BOSTOR/gameinfo.html

There’s the link for the page w/ the game highlights & final shot.

I’m grateful for the win, but can somebody please explain to me why the Celtics are still letting Pierce dribble down the clock for a final shot when we have 3 All-Star players on the team? I feel like they should be able to come up with something a little more creative than that.

Brick – For a guy who supposedly knows basketball, how are you surprised that Toronto made a run in their own building? The majority of that run came with KG going to the bench with a phantom 5th foul. Let’s just be straight here. You are NOT a Celtics fan. You were hoping that Toronto would win this game so that you could rub it in everyone’s face here. That should tell you something. It sure tells the rest of us. Enough of your anti-Celtic comments on here. Stop trying to ruin it for the rest of us. Off to Toronto or wherever you want to be as a fan but leave everyone alone!

Rough game for Rondo, but he was playing against one of the better,quicker guards in the league. He did have his moments though.

The thing I thought were keys to the game were:

We fought hard defensively the entire game.
Even with Pierce struggling other players stepped up.
Posey got most of Scal’s minutes just like I thought.
House and Posey were both solid off the bench with some big shots.
Ray is absolutely smooth. Remember all you naysayers that said he was too old and injured!

It’s nice to see that even on a tough night in a good teams building we can step it up and get a win and not fold at the end. This team will only get better. On a hot night we would have put that team under once we were up double digits. In 20-30 games once we have come together more that will be a common thing.

No way we win a game the past 3 years where Pierce only has 13 points…ahh doesnt it feel good.

KG is a man amongst boys. Ray Allen is just sweet.

Watched on NBA Pass, Tommy Heinshon is awful. Too much G.D. cheerleading on his part. Saw three calls go against the Celts and Tommy was livid. One was Ray Allen hacking a Raptor driving to the hoop and during the replay it showed the hack and Tommy finally admitted he was wrong. Posey in the 4Q was moving and leaned in on the moving pick, he was not stationary despite what Heinson says and the replay showed it too. Finally one of Perks fouls Heinshon had a cow on; again they show the replay and Perk clearly knocks the guy hard with his body. I had to turn the volume way down because of Heinshon.

Other than that exciting game. A game I thought we might lose and I’m glad we came away with the W. As I posted earlier I think we get 58W this season. Hats off to the Raptors, they are a good club.

I’d rather though be the Big 3, then the outside offense that the Raptors and Bulls depend upon. Although when the Bulls get Kobe in late Nov. early Dec. that will change for them.

IT WAS LIKE THE ENDING OF THE SOPRANOS !!!

How appropriate was it that Pierce took a bad last shot of the game to send it to overtime, then Allen and Kg carried us, with Allen hitting th egame winner?

Is this no longer Pierce’s team??? I hope not…

Who was screwed worse by the refs, Pats, or Celts ??

I will take an ugly win gladly… we have had way too many beautiful losses the last few years…

I am not giving the refs a gold star, but they were not as horrible has Homer (simpson) Heinshon thinks.

I tivo’d the game and I saw the Posey moving screen call 3X, every time he is not stationary when they make contact. He is still leaning into the Raptor guy when they make contact. Had he stood still, he gets the call. Granted, lots of times refs miss this call anyway, but that was a correct call despite Heinshon’s homer commentary.

I agree with Heinshon that there may have been a few ticky tacky fouls go against us, but the ones Hienshon got most bent out of shape on he was wrong every time and if you are listening to Heinshon and not watching the game, replay you are letting yourself get duped by this guy. It is time for Heinshon to be put out to pasture, take his microphone away and hire a better analysis.

Heinshon is a legend, he was a great player and coach, but he is just a shill for the Celtics and I prefer a more professional commentator as we go for the banner this year.

You want to know who’s team this is, let me answer it once and for all, it is the guy with the hot hand’s team.

Against the Wizards when Pierce got hot, the ball consistently went to him and he had something like 28 points.

When Ray Allen has the hot hand, we look for him like we did today and the Minny exhibition.

When KG gets hot, like OT, we give him the ball and let him operate or if they double triple him up, he hits an open wide player.

Get this it is his team or the other guy’s team out of your minds once and for all. These guys want to win it all baby, and if player X has the hot hand, he is getting the ball and if you want to say it is player’s X’s team that night, go right ahead. But the next night it might be player Y’s, next player Z.

It’s a long season and there will be more “ugly” games, but a win is a win. Paul was off tonite and seemed to force alot in the second half. But I will give him a pass. He played great in the opener. As long as two of the PGA play well, we will be every game and have a chance to win. That is all you can ask for to be realistic. Tonites win does send a message not only to our Division foes, but the entire league. The Celtics are Contenders and not Pretenders!!!!

Offense just doesn’t seem to be clicking. How have we won? A look at opposing team field goal percentage over last two games – 35.9%. Absolutely rediculous!

bceltfan,
You say ’’homer’’ as if it’s an insult. Heinshon is employed by the Celtics. He is the color guy for the Celtics. He played for the team and coached it. Do you really expect him to become an objective observer? And what fun would that be? I LOVE the fact that he goes nuts for his team. I’m a Celtics fan, so his animated ’’cheerleading’’ doesn’t bother me one bit. Why does it bother you? He’s cheering for the team that made his career. God forbid. He’s not working for ESPN. He’s allowed to pick sides. Get over it.

Also, I thought the officating was every bit as bad as Tommy said, if not worse. They blew a number of major calls, and they called it poorly going both ways—bad calls against the Raptors, too. They made it looks like a bad game with whistle after whistle. It was a joke. By the way, I did replay the Posey foul. He was set.

‘’I prefer a more professional commentator as we go for the banner this year.’’

Well, la-di-da.

Tommy is part of the package. I love him. Of course he’s a homer. What kind of an ass can’t see past that? Rondo got schooled by TJ Ford. I thought the knock on Ford was he couldn’t shoot?

Pierce has tasted end of game heroics but I don’t think his success percentage is very good. He’ll dribble into double or triple teams, miss the open man etc many more times than he doesn’t. But props to the end of game play to Ray (If I had seen it)

Forget about firing the probably underpaid staff at Comcast. Fire Comcast! They took the rights away from FSNE and are probably trying to earn back the money with amateur programming. Losing the feed in the last 7 secs of a great overtime game. You’ve got to be kidding me!

Posey was indeed set. Horrible, horrible call.

It wasn’t a Comcast problem. I had the same thing with Verizon. It was caused by the company that was sending out the signal from Toronto, whomever that might be.

Posey was not set, you can see him leaning into the Raptor player and that’s why he didn’t get the call. Sorry but I tivo’d it and it clearly shows him not set.

On the officiating, bang bang play with Bosh getting called for the charge against Posey. Again I replayed that and a call that could go either way. Bosh claimed Posey not set and undercut him as he spinned to go to the hoop. Saw it again and I think Bosh did charge. However, you can probably find many Raptor fans saying it was a lousey call and again I think it could have gone either way but it was a correct call- Bosh offensive foul.

I think where refs are at their worst is the call that goes to or doesn’t get called against the superstar. Where there is an abuse is when a star like an MJ, Bird, Magic, etc gets the ticky tack call on one end of the court and the exact same play or worse is not their foul on the other end.

You will even hear commentators say, as a rookie he won’t get that call. And why the hell not? If a rookie makes a good defensive play, give him the call. Or you here an announcer say he’ll have to be in the league for a few years before he’ll get that call. B.S. call the game farily. A foul, is a foul, is a foul.

I agree there were some ticky tack fouls against the Celtics, but again Heinshon went off on 3 calls where he was wrong each and every time. His cheerleading is down right atrocious, especially when it goes against the facts of the game.

I don’t want a guy yelling that’s an awful bad call and then when they replay it and Ray Allen actually again is shown hacking the player, Tommy admits Allen got him. God awful homer commentating and an insult to the fans watching.

I’ll use the Cubs as an example. Everyone loved Harey Carey and his cheerleading but the Cubs were awful. Cubs commentator Steve Stone breaks the game down and gives a constructive analysis of the games and the team. I am not a Cubs fan but I get most of their games and his analysis was spot on and insightville.

Maybe the Celtics needed a cheerleader commentator when they were a 24W team, but we don’t need that now. We need an upgrade announcer, send Tommy out to the pasture please.

Look Heinshon is a cheerleader. I’m not saying I can’t see it, the problem is I’d rather have insightville commentary than Harey Carey. I think intelligent Celtic fans don’t need all the cheerleading and for me I’d rather a more accurate analysis than the demeaning homer commentary.

Not only is it the homer announcing but many times Heinshon’s analysis is just down right wrong. I recall a game last year and I think it was late first half and Perk already had 3 fouls against him. One of the Celtic’s defenders gets beat on the play and his guy is going into the hoop for a lay up. Perk already has 3 fouls and it isn’t even half time. Perk goes after the guy to try to block the shot and picks up his 4th call.

Tommy cheerleader makes the comment, great foul by Perk, he had no choice, the guy was going for an uncontested lay up. No Tommy, crappy play. It is more important for Perk to not pick up his 4th foul than to have the guy hit 2 FT before halftime. Perk’s #1 priority should have been, try to contest but by all means do not make any contact and get #4.

I know as a coach and a player Tommy knows better but as a commentator he is too concerned with being a homer than to give proper commentary.

My last post on the Posey block in the 4Q. Posey gets his feet set but you can see him leaning into the Raptor player, he is not stationary. This is the hardest call in basketball and many times this is called the other way. The fact of the matter is though, it is not just the feet, Posey is not stationary and he leans into the Rator defender and that’s why the call went against him. It was the correct call.

Just because the call didn’t go our way, just like the Bosh charge didn’t go the Raptors way, doesn’t mean the zebras had it wrong. Some you guys saying Posey is “set” but if his upper body is still moving and he is leaning into the defender while the defender is trying to go around him, he probably wouldn’t and shouldn’t get the call and he didn’t.

Rondo did get schooled. It wasn’t just outside shots, Ford was 12-19 and they weren’t all from the outside. He also got 5 fouls on Rondo and got him in foul trouble. Rondo also shot a dismel 0 for 4 from the floor.

Look at the whole game Wildblue. Class dismissed.

Apparently, bceltfan likes himself. A lot.

Cousin It, If I’m looking for a cheerleader, I don’t need Tommy Heinshon, I can just get all google eyed at our cheerleaders.

Tommy is certainly not the only homer announcer by any stretch, it is just lazy broadcasting, and I’d prefer the commentary of a Bill Russell type guy, or a Joe Morgan in baseball, or a John Madden type guy in football where you actually get insightville commentary.

I am already drinking the koolaid, if you enjoy Tommy’s mind numbing homer commentary, then go for it, whatever floats your boat.