Notes: 11/8
"His lower back, he said it just went out," Celtics coach Doc Rivers said. "And they're going to do an MRI [today]. Obviously, I'm extremely concerned. We need him. He does so many little things, taking charges, just his leadership and his voice."Wallace, Pruitt likely headed to Utah (Globe):
Rivers confirmed that first-year players Glen Davis, Gabe Pruitt, and Brandon Wallace are candidates to play for the NBA Developmental League Utah Flash. Rivers added that two of the aforementioned rookies could be sent to the Flash soon.Friday night's opponents, the Hawks, beat the Suns last night (Herald):
Director of basketball operations Danny Ainge, however, said it is less likely that the 6-foot-9-inch, 289-pound Davis will be sent since "we need his size."
Josh Smith scored 22 points, rookie Al Horford led a dominant performance on the boards and the Hawks beat another 60-win team from last season, holding off Steve Nash and the Phoenix Suns, 105-96, last night in Atlanta.Rivers not sure if he'll coach on Saturday (ESPN):
Rivers said he planned to coach the Celtics in Wednesday night's home game against the Denver Nuggets and Friday's game against the Atlanta Hawks. He then planned to return to Chicago.
Funeral services for Grady Alexander Rivers Sr. are scheduled for Saturday at Second Baptist Church in Mayfield, Ill. The retired Chicago police officer died last weekend at the age of 76.
Doc Rivers said he has chartered a plane to take him to New Jersey, where the Celtics play the Nets on Saturday night. But he said his emotional state after the funeral may determine whether he makes the trip.
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TA is bad. Even when the play turns out okay it was by chance. A fraction of a second different and it is a charge. TA is a perfect example of an athlete that is not bright enough to be a good player. Basketball IQ is not the only thing, but if you don’t have it you can have all the physical ability in the world and it won’t matter… Kedrick Brown anyone?!
Don’t let a hot spurt out of a player every 5th game fool you into thinking he is better than he is. He should sit far down that bench. House is a much better point than he is. I’d have Pruitt in the game before TA. At least he can dribble. As we can see from Rondo’s stat line assists aren’t coming out of the PG anyway. Come up and hand the ball off to the stars unless they open the middle like they were doing for Rondo.
Also, why is everyone down on Scal so far. 5 pts and 3 boards in 15 min? 50% shooting? Come on people. He’s not that bad! Especially for the pittance he is making. He is a hard defender.
Ejplaya..have you seen TA playing when he is healthy? He’s an energy guy that will contribute..have some faith…
Point #2- I’m kinda surprised to see Jeff’s post..thought there was a writer strike going on…Scab
by Fastbreak on Nov 8, 2007 10:46 AM EST reply actions
So, we have a D-League team we share with the Jazz, huh? That’s cool for now, but they should we should have our own at Mohegan Sun. They’d actually get a casino walk-in crowd which could top most D-League crowds of 200.
I’d be worried if Davis went there. He’d get some nice high altitude training, but their staff seems Utah-orientated and I doubt he’d get the fat off if he went there.
by Chowda on Nov 8, 2007 12:10 PM EST reply actions
Fastbreak – I have seen every minute of every game he has played in with my League Pass. Once again, he is an out of control player that has absolutely no basketball IQ. He can score at times due to his athletic ability, but the damage he does far outweighs the positives. Once he gets the ball everyone just stops because they know he is going to put it on the floor and drive wildly to the hoop with his head down. Give House every minute of his.
Chowda – What do you base your comment of their D-League team is Utah-orientated? What do you even mean? How could having a chance to go down and play against a higher level of athletes than he did in college be better than 1-2 min a night here?
People, please don’t get down on Tony Allen right now. He isn’t healthy and prob wont be for another month or so. He needs to regain his explosiveness and then he’ll be very effective. For those who are down on him now..you will eat your words when he is dunking in traffic and locking up opposing teams best scorers later in the season. You must also remember this is a contract year for TA. TA knows if he can prove himself this season he can make a lot of money in the offseason and thats about all the motivation he needs. Do not forget the TA we have seen before..the ferocious defender and first class pest. His confidence is shaken right now because he cant play at the level he can, but once he gets that back I think he will really click with this team. I have every reason to believe KG will get him pumping once he is healthy.
by PRIDE on Nov 8, 2007 1:03 PM EST reply actions
We all have seen how good Tony Allen is when healthy. The problem is, he isn’t healthy and he looks plain bad on the court. If i didn’t know of who is was, or what injury he has gone through, i would have thought he was a rookie.
Since Posey is Injured, let his back heal and bring his prototype(Wallace). Send Tony to the D-League until he is comfortable with his leg again.
That Posey injury can be blamed on Pat Riley. Riles always made his players take charges and Posey was trying to take the charge on that play. I had a similar injury and man does it hurt and it won’t go away quickly.
by The Real Large James on Nov 8, 2007 2:29 PM EST reply actions
I agree with Ainge that Davis may be needed, but I also think 2 weeks in the D-league might be great for him. He would get serious minutes and (I think) be dominant, and come back ready to play and contribute.
EJ,
I agree with you about Scal. So far this year, I think he’s a valuable bench player. But I also think TA will come around.
EJ: outside of james posey, ta is our best defender on the wing. his ability to D up is why he still has a place on the roster.
his offensive output is tied to his play on the other side of the ball. like posey he is on the court for D anything else is gravy. and when the kid pours on the gravy he pours it on.
We all agree we need Posey but back injuries if this is serious can take a long time to heal so he can play at the level they play at in the NBA. Tom Thibodeau has showed me why he is such a great defensive coach I am more impressed with the defense then the offense and that is great too. If Posey is down for a long time I hope not then they will do what the Patriots do find a Troy Brown type of player to fill in on the zone so there will be less one on one pressure for the person who takes his place. I know Eric Williams did not make the team but I am sure he could fill in some sort of zone capacity to help out if Posey is out for extended time.
mcpu40 – first of all, I wouldn’t say calling him ‘’not that bad’’ isn’t quite what I would call praise. Second of all, Scal makes things happen for his teammates out there and TA stops the flow. He makes the team worse by trying to be the all-star. Scal knows his role at least.
arctic 3.0 – TA USED to be a god defender, but is too crippled still to be even considered good. He doesn’t make defensive stops any more because he can’t move. IF he comes back to 100% then he is one of our better defenders, but you made my point for me. TA should sit and Posey should get every one of his minutes for defensive reasons and House should get every minute for offensive reasons.
He is at best a bench player and likely a 7-8 man at best when 100%. Right now he is a 12th man or IR candidate. Here’s his key stats:
Washington 1-5 shooting and 2 turnovers in 15 min. (Did have 5 rebounds as well though although we don’t need him for rebounding)
Toronto – Absolutely nada in 3 min…
Denver – 4 pts in 18 min. 2 turnovers (did have 4 assists) Powe had 4 pts in 4 minutes.
That is sure pouring the gravy on now, isn’t it!! It’s a good thing we have him or we would be 0-3.
arctic 3.0 – First of all PLAYA is spanish for beach, not what you’re thinking. Second of all, my comment is that he is too slow because of his injury to play D. Until he is back, he hurts the team because he does nothing real well. Once he is back he will indeed be a really good defensive player. Just don’t let him touch the ball on the other end.
Bankshot – What are you thinking/saying?! Tony is absolutely NOT a player that makes his teammates better. That’s not even debatable.
Scal absolutely is a player that makes his teammates better. He sets picks, kicks the ball to the open guy, and plays hard nosed D. We are debating his talent level, but the only reason he is in the league is because he is the type of player that fits in with good players because of what he does. You can’t tell me the NJ Nets management, and the Celtics management, and all of these coaches who absolutely love a guy who doesn’t really put up a ton of stats is doing so just because they like him! That is insane. He earns his minutes by making the team better. I don’t think he should be getting many, but that’s not the argument. You can’t give me a solid example of how TA makes his teammates better. If you are even attempting to debate that then you obviously don’t know basketball!

































