i’d have a long talk with james posey before i did anything about payton. what’s left in the tank? he would not interfere with rondo’s time and he’s big, but he’s gary the ego-man.

He’s finished, offers nothing

size would be nice but points now need to be able to stick the shot and push it…the 3pt line and zones make it a must and GP does niether….next

I like GP, but . . . I agree with the guy above who talked about having an open and honest conversation with Pose about GP. The chemistry on this team is so great right now that I don’t think GP is the direction we want to go.

We need a backup point guard. If it’s not Payton, who’s it going to be? Earl Boykins?

The Celtics need a back-up PG. However Gary Payton is not who I have in mind. The last couple of years GP was in the league he could guard, shoot or break a press. He was slow and had no legs. It would be a mistake if the Celtics go out and sign this dude. Just because the team has a need doesn’t mean you go out and get a wash-up player.

I have no objections to adding The Glove. The more experience we can add, the better.

“The More experience we can add, the better.” Yes that is true however experience with limited skills or no skills at all doesn’t get you anywhere. Right now GP should be doing what Michael Jordan did this week and that’s only go to practice and work out witht he guys. Because if the Celtics do sign him that’s all he will be doing and getting paid for it. A waste of money and time.

Payton said Doc was one of his favorite coaches to play for, tied with Phil Jackson and just behind George Karl- ahead of Pat Riley.

He’s a gamer Danny- go get him.

Who ever comes in will take minutes away from Eddie House.

I have no interest in Payton or Webber. This is just Aaron Goodwin trying to drum up interest in his clients. Dumars has already come out and said that the Pistons have no interest in Webber. And why should they when they have Jason Maxiell, who actually plays defense?

As for Rivers, maybe his memory has grown dim with the passage of time. When Payton was here, Rivers complained that Gary broke all of the plays. And that’s what Payton would do again. Payton has also lost a step (or two or three). If all they need is a guy to get the ball over half court, there are better options than Payton. What’s wrong with Keith McLeod? I thought he was a very good backup pg when he was in Utah.

I wonder if Thibodeau can set up some kind of four-man zone so Payton can play the same type of nonexistent defense he played for Rivers the last time he was here?

No.

Yeah. I’m definately not feeling this one either. He’s got less than nothing left.

There is no rush to get a PG, there is still alot of time left before the playoffs.

No thanks. Wait for Cassell.

McCloud is a lot better idea than Peyton. The Celtics desparately need a number 2 pg, but I am not sure they are that desparate. Peyton might be better this time around thoug, since Garnett would threaten to kill him if started messing up plays.

I love the idea of CWebb going to the Pistons. You see, JMaxiell will the player most impacted by CWebb than any one else. His decrease in minutes will be noticeable and that is a good thing for Pistons opponents. CWeber wants impact minutes(i.e. starters minutes)

If we get Payton, does what does that do to EHouse minutes? What about TAllen minutes? I rather have Earl Boykins, but I guess Payton can’t ask for too many mins and that’s fine with me.

…after all, we lost to a Champioship caliber team, taht needed a career night from CBillups and a collapse by PP in the final seconds of the game, to win the game

Ooo, GP was a treat and honor to watch as a player when he was here. You have to watch GP when he doesn’t have the ball to see the impact he has on his team mates. Masterful. He could be had for no more than 5 mil.

I think we only need another very good pg if Rondo gets hurt. As far as House having trouble in the Detroit game, that could have been solved by having someone with him in the backcourt to help. That was the plan, but the players didn’t execute. I would not like to see House of RA as pg if Rondo is hurt because it subtracts from what they do best. If we do bring in another pg it needs to be someone who will push the ball. How about trying to weedle Banks from Phoenix with them paying most of the salary. (Just kidding). If we were to trade for someone I’d like it to be someone like Tyrone Lue. I’ve also read lately that Telfair is now starting to play like a pg and not as a 2. I’m not in favor of Payton unless he plays like we want him to. Maybe 2 10 day contracts will help us find our, but again, only if Rondo is hurt.

isn’t it nice that players now want to join the Cs?

He may not have much left in the way of playing abilities, but who better to tutor Rondo about defensive tricks and techniques than the Glove? This of course, only works if Payton is willing to play such a role.

And also… Danny says he won’t fill the spot unless it’s an impact player? Umm… there aren’t exactly any ‘impact’ players available right now. Is he waiting for a couple guys to do what GP and Malone did with the Lakers? Because I don’t think that’s going to happen.

In terms of bringing in a big defensive point guard, who won’t cost much, and who won’t feel entitled to cause any waves on the team, I kind of like Eeyore’s thought: Orien Greene.

He may not have much left in the way of playing abilities, but who better to tutor Rondo about defensive tricks and techniques than the Glove?

Payton’s forgotten how to play defense

I think it would be worth it for Rondo to see a 39 year old without any quickness left stay in front of players better than he does. Rondo doesn’t play good on the ball defense and consistently gets beat by guards that aren’t nearly as quick as him the way Billups did in the second half. I think Payton would have helped them last game because he could have brought the ball up and guarded Billups when Rondo was out and House was hounded by Lindsey Hunter because Eddie can’t dribble.

Flanders, which Payton are you watching. He hasn’t played defense in 5 years.

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—- NOW, ONTO GARY PAYTON. I’ve always liked him, not Fantasy-wise for the past few years. I do love that I can say one of the greatest PG’s of MY time played for Boston, G.P. But, not at his finest hour. He did, however, manage to do well. Refresh me, friends.. didn’t we have Pierce, Walker and Payton all at the same time at once?? MY QUESTION IS, why the HECK didn’t we go after NAZR MOHAMMED?! I’m a Celtics fan, but #1 overall, I’m a Kentucky Wildcats fan (I was born and raised here in KY) — that’s why I like Rondo so much :). My Father was a Celtics fan.. the Bill Russell days. Man. I wish I coulda witnessed Bill Russell (I’d say he was the Garnett mixed with Bosh back then.. and Wilt was Shaq back then, first 7-footer ever.. I learned that last night from my Popz. I was talkin’ bout Wilt’s book prior to passing away. Claiming to have slept with over 20,000 women??? Geez.. he might’ve been a polygamist! lol.

SORRY FOR MY DETER! GARY PAYTON, WE DON’T NEED YOU, FAMILY. SORRY. EDDIE HOUSE, IS BETTER THAN YOU. WHEN U WERE HIS AGE, U’D MURK HIM. BUT, AGING HAPPENS TO ALL. I GRADUATED H.S. IN ‘03 AND WAS 17, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN I’M 22.. LIFE IS LIFE.

THE CELTICS NEEDED TO PERSUE NAZR! HE WOULD BE PERFECT TO GO WITH GARNETT, PERKINS & POLLARD. BUT, IF WE SIGN CHRIS WEBBER, ALL WILL BE FORGOTTEN.. OR AT LEAST RUBEN PATTERSON.[/b][b] :P :P