Gary Payton Wants To Join Celtics
Ex-Celtics point guard Gary Payton watched on television from his Las Vegas home Wednesday night as his former team lost to the Pistons. And once Chauncey Billups hit the winning free throws with a tenth of a second remaining, Payton called his agent.
"He called me and said, 'Hey, I'm reminding you that the Celtics are a team I feel like I can help,' " said agent Aaron Goodwin.
The Celtics have two open roster spots. Ainge said Wednesday he wasn't looking to fill one unless it was with an impact player. So, that begs the question of whether Payton could be that impact player.
Goodwin said he last talked to Ainge about Payton and another client, free agent forward Chris Webber, about two weeks ago. Webber appears close to signing with the Pistons.
As I mentioned before, I get the feeling that Gary isn't that popular with some in the Celtics front office from his last stay, but Doc did go on record in this article with nothing but positive comments. I think at this point he knows he would be willing to play the backup-mentor role to Rondo, and you would think that he could at least get the ball over half court under pressure. So I wouldn't rule it out.
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Perhaps he would say something different behnid closed doors, but here’s what Posey said about Payton in that article:
“Just knowing [Payton] and playing with him, I know what he brings to the game,” said James Posey, who played with Payton the last two seasons in Miami. “He brings that competitive nature. That experience. He’s been doing it. Even before we won a ring in Miami, people understood what he brings to the table.”
The Celtics need a back-up PG. However Gary Payton is not who I have in mind. The last couple of years GP was in the league he could guard, shoot or break a press. He was slow and had no legs. It would be a mistake if the Celtics go out and sign this dude. Just because the team has a need doesn’t mean you go out and get a wash-up player.
“The More experience we can add, the better.” Yes that is true however experience with limited skills or no skills at all doesn’t get you anywhere. Right now GP should be doing what Michael Jordan did this week and that’s only go to practice and work out witht he guys. Because if the Celtics do sign him that’s all he will be doing and getting paid for it. A waste of money and time.
I like Gary Payton. Obviously he is not at the pinnacle of his career, but we’re not going to be paying him what he made then. He would be a good mentor to Rondo in my mind and he is a much better defensive backup to Rondo than House. Would he have made the difference in Wednesday’s game? Possibly. House has earned his minutes and could find his way onto the floor at the 2 as well. Assuming this team needs another big man and PG (the two spots), what available player would people rather see than Gary for the role of backup?
I have no interest in Payton or Webber. This is just Aaron Goodwin trying to drum up interest in his clients. Dumars has already come out and said that the Pistons have no interest in Webber. And why should they when they have Jason Maxiell, who actually plays defense?
As for Rivers, maybe his memory has grown dim with the passage of time. When Payton was here, Rivers complained that Gary broke all of the plays. And that’s what Payton would do again. Payton has also lost a step (or two or three). If all they need is a guy to get the ball over half court, there are better options than Payton. What’s wrong with Keith McLeod? I thought he was a very good backup pg when he was in Utah.
Brick’s Keith McLeod idea is good too. Having now seen House struggle to bring the ball up against our real competition (Who cares what happens against the bad teams?), it should be obvious that something NEEDS to be done at the backup PG spot. Ignoring the problem just guarantees a non-championship season.
McCloud is a lot better idea than Peyton. The Celtics desparately need a number 2 pg, but I am not sure they are that desparate. Peyton might be better this time around thoug, since Garnett would threaten to kill him if started messing up plays.
by JohnCK on Dec 21, 2007 10:12 AM EST reply actions
I think we only need another very good pg if Rondo gets hurt. As far as House having trouble in the Detroit game, that could have been solved by having someone with him in the backcourt to help. That was the plan, but the players didn’t execute. I would not like to see House of RA as pg if Rondo is hurt because it subtracts from what they do best. If we do bring in another pg it needs to be someone who will push the ball. How about trying to weedle Banks from Phoenix with them paying most of the salary. (Just kidding). If we were to trade for someone I’d like it to be someone like Tyrone Lue. I’ve also read lately that Telfair is now starting to play like a pg and not as a 2. I’m not in favor of Payton unless he plays like we want him to. Maybe 2 10 day contracts will help us find our, but again, only if Rondo is hurt.
He may not have much left in the way of playing abilities, but who better to tutor Rondo about defensive tricks and techniques than the Glove? This of course, only works if Payton is willing to play such a role.
And also… Danny says he won’t fill the spot unless it’s an impact player? Umm… there aren’t exactly any ‘impact’ players available right now. Is he waiting for a couple guys to do what GP and Malone did with the Lakers? Because I don’t think that’s going to happen.
I think it would be worth it for Rondo to see a 39 year old without any quickness left stay in front of players better than he does. Rondo doesn’t play good on the ball defense and consistently gets beat by guards that aren’t nearly as quick as him the way Billups did in the second half. I think Payton would have helped them last game because he could have brought the ball up and guarded Billups when Rondo was out and House was hounded by Lindsey Hunter because Eddie can’t dribble.
by flanders on Dec 21, 2007 4:18 PM EST reply actions
(I HAVE TYPED MY 2 PENNIES, BUT HERE, FIRST):Hey guys, I’m new. The name is Austin. Any fellow Celtics fan wants to contact me, via MESSENGERS, here are my screen names/addys:
AOL/AIM-“Crunk Souljah” (spelled as looks, no cap. I’s ‘n’ all)
MSN-sporaddict_1@hotmail.com
—- NOW, ONTO GARY PAYTON. I’ve always liked him, not Fantasy-wise for the past few years. I do love that I can say one of the greatest PG’s of MY time played for Boston, G.P. But, not at his finest hour. He did, however, manage to do well. Refresh me, friends.. didn’t we have Pierce, Walker and Payton all at the same time at once?? MY QUESTION IS, why the HECK didn’t we go after NAZR MOHAMMED?! I’m a Celtics fan, but #1 overall, I’m a Kentucky Wildcats fan (I was born and raised here in KY) — that’s why I like Rondo so much :). My Father was a Celtics fan.. the Bill Russell days. Man. I wish I coulda witnessed Bill Russell (I’d say he was the Garnett mixed with Bosh back then.. and Wilt was Shaq back then, first 7-footer ever.. I learned that last night from my Popz. I was talkin’ bout Wilt’s book prior to passing away. Claiming to have slept with over 20,000 women??? Geez.. he might’ve been a polygamist! lol.
SORRY FOR MY DETER! GARY PAYTON, WE DON’T NEED YOU, FAMILY. SORRY. EDDIE HOUSE, IS BETTER THAN YOU. WHEN U WERE HIS AGE, U’D MURK HIM. BUT, AGING HAPPENS TO ALL. I GRADUATED H.S. IN ‘03 AND WAS 17, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN I’M 22.. LIFE IS LIFE.
THE CELTICS NEEDED TO PERSUE NAZR! HE WOULD BE PERFECT TO GO WITH GARNETT, PERKINS & POLLARD. BUT, IF WE SIGN CHRIS WEBBER, ALL WILL BE FORGOTTEN.. OR AT LEAST RUBEN PATTERSON.[/b][b] :P :P
by BigTucky on Dec 24, 2007 5:28 AM EST reply actions





















