Daily Babble: Former C's Light It Up For the National Audience

DWest just got up for last night’s game. He will have a couple of good games, followed by several mediocre games like always. Didn’t help that Rondo didn’t do squat to defend him.

Cs didn’t play all that well the whole game, while the Sonics played their best and still couldn’t beat the Cs. ;D

Hey – did Barkley make any comments about the incredibly “soft” schedule Detroit has played so far?

about the “rondo cant gaurd dwest” barkely comment….

i love charles, but does he, you know, watch the game?

because when he said that at halftime, rondo had gaurded west for 2 minutes out of the 10 he was on the floor, and only given up the 3 at the buzzer, which i think we all agree was a good recovery out of a near steal, and a pretty luck shot.

let me revise sir charles comment to the way it should have been if he had actualy watched the game

“if tony allen cant gaurd a dwest, the celtics bench may have problems with defensive depth at the PG”

Good point. If you want to talk about someone’s work last night that was less than stellar, let’s talk Allen’s defense.

Wasn’t a great team performance, but great teams win on nights when they don’t have it all working.

I couldn’t keep awake for 2nd half but the comments above are dead on for 1st half. T. Allen was lousy at his craft – defense – for the 2nd game in a row. Get some sleep, Tony!

We won but who wouldn’t be happy for Delonte (Wally too) playing well against their ex.

Steve, how do you rate Jeff Green vs Glen Davis. BBD was DNP in Portland and don’t know about 2nd half in Seattle.

huey, i thought the west was a soft defense,finesse league. the last 2 games we got banged around like playing the bad boys.it was a moral victory for the sonics,dw, and wally. dwest played his heart out and i was glad for him. wally was ok, but house might not be as good a shooter,but can do way more things. wally looked bad in the 4th quarter.pollard takes up bb’s minutes which i am not crazy about. doc has to figure out how to get them both in. i also don’t like to see perk on the bench for long stretches when he’s not making bad fouls. he has been a monster on the boards, then he sits. and sits.

Rondo’s defense is his strength, so Charles’ comment is silly. Rondo gets steals and rebounds like almost no PG in the league.

Meanwhile, what has BBD disappeared to the bench? Looks like Pollard is getting his minutes, and Pollard is putting up no offense. What did BBD to Doc? Sleep with his wife?

Well, West certainly outplayed Rondo last night.

Except for Garnett and Pierce in the second half, the Celtics played poorly, and they were lucky to win against a sub-.500 team. I never saw Zoolander get so many open looks. There’s no excuse for that.

The bigger issue is Rivers overplaying his stars and burning them out. We see it night after night. So where is Glenn Davis?

The Celtics were playing back-to-back games, so it’s no surprise they were flat last night. Rondo will be fine; again, back-to-back games after traveling through 3 different time zones will take the energy out of most people, especially a young pup like him who’s still growing. I’m more concerned about Tony Allen. The Celtics only get quality play from him when he starts. He’s not starting on this team anytime soon. He needs to figure out how to get himself warmed up enough so he’s productive off the bench. If he can’t do that, he should probably be traded, as much as I hate to say it. I like him, but he’s got to make the adjustment.

geeeez, I was at the game and am a Delonte fan so I was watching. Rondo was NOT the guy on him 80% of the time. It was Ray that he was beating most of the time.

In any case, Paul is the reason we won, but even then he took a ton of poor shots. Rajon had open looks and chose to not shoot. Posey and House were great which is pretty usual for them.. But KG is going to drive me nuts waiting for the double team to come to him before he moves. He has a huge weakness in his game and otherwise may truly be the perfect player. He NEEDS to have a turn and shoot bank or hook shot that he is confident in down in the post. He just doesn’t ever do this. You can put a smaller guy on him and have him have a mismatch and he still won’t go to the hole, until the double team. I realize he will never change now at this stage but dang it has anyone told him this? as hard as he works its as if no one ever has.

but the point is rondo dodint PLAY west, tony allen was on west all night. west is thier back up PG,and when he came in, tony came in for rondo almost all the time.

and to whoever said rondo had a bad defensive game against billups, why dont you go look up billups stats for the first 3 quarters. rondo didnt gaurd chauncy during his 4th quarter explosion, because he got a cheap 5th foul.

remeber? we talked about how eddie house and friends bringing p the ball in the 4th was a problem?

charles comments were no where near correct

and mc, it didnt affect him gaurding micheal redd and numerous others. i realize he’s still working back, but west made him look like a fool last night, yet he shut down micheal redd and helped slow kobe.

he needs to get consistent.

to see how rondo did, for those who didnt get to stay up and watch, you have to check luke ridnuors stats, which are pitiful.

as wahz said, rondo wasent gaurding west, since west doesnt start. when rondo went to the bench, so did luke, and that brought on the tony allen d west matchup.

that scares the crap outa me, and tony needs to get some consistancy in his game, but lets not all jump on charles bandwagon and pretend rondo got burnt by delonte, it didnt happen.

exucse me thats watson, forgot luke was hurt.

Well, Rondo was Certainly on West when Delonte nailed the three pointer at the end of the half.

But the mano a mano matchup is irrelevant. The fact is that West had a much better all around game than Rondo, who played poorly. West’s shooting, passing and defense were excellent (except one play where Delonte forgot where House was, and Eddie hit the trey).

right, delonte had a great night, but the point was that charles contends that rondo couldnt gaurd west. thats false.

also, are you really going to lay that 3 on rondo? that was a terrable shot. he got stripped, rondo went to the floor for it, and west took an off balance fadeaway that hit.

not really sure what you wanted rondo to do there, punch him in the mouth?

i should say terrable look. the shot it self was great.

Rondo gambled for the steal and lost. West kept his head and drained the shot. There are no style points in basketball.

So what- West was up for the game and outplayed Rondo.

And Crownsy I agree entirely about that Detroit game: we outplayed them the majority of that game and Rondo certainly dogged Billups before picking up a cheap foul. We will beat them in a 7 game series because we’re a better team.

so you wanted rondo to strip the ball from him, and instead of diving for a loose ball, you wanted to what, have him stand thier while west gathered the ball?

hindsights 20/20 brick, if rondo gets thier, your praising his steal

Delonte had a great night, but I’m sure he will fade into oblivion again. I’m so glad we dumped him. He’s average at best.

I have little concern about Rondo’s defense. However, he needs to be more aggressive on the offensive end. It appeared he had not interest in shooting last night. That must change.

And what happened to BBD? I don’t understand all the minutes Pollard is getting.

note that were really nitpicking that steal attempt, overall rondo had an off night, i was just pointing out defense wasent part of that.

he was tentitve with his jumper, and i felt that aside from a few flashes, he wasen’t running the floor and leading that half transition/ half court rush we do so well at a good clip. probley more on the fact that its a back to back on the west coast and he’s still a young kid learning how to deal with stuff liek that than a real concern.

as to the BBD thing dj, i think that doc holding him out, along with leon, because he knows he needs their energy for the lakers and jazz more than for these 2 games. better to let pollard get himself back into the mix against sub par competition than throw him to the wolves in utah. meanwhile, BBD gets 3 days off, huge for a young guy who has 28 games under his belt and no idea how to handel the back to back out west.

thats my theroy anyway.

too many minutes for the 3. it was clear kg was tiring way before he came out. bbd has not hurt the c’s and has the youth to get some time. perk is getting cheated out of time as well.

Don’t forget that Jeff Green—who also could’ve been a Celtic, in mirror world—didn’t have a great game either.

West isn’t anything special, but I can’t imagine Ainge was thrilled to lose him. For what West does, and the price he does it, he’s a good value the next two years.

I thought the C’s were exhausted last nite, especially KG. Comments about Rondo and West are based on one game and one where the C’s were not at their best. And who won? Unbelievable how PP was able to rise to the occasion. And let’s not forget Eddie House and James Posey. Both hit big, timely shots. I was watching Mohegan Suns Sports tonite when it talked about last nite’s game. They showed someone driving to the basket, probably PP and dishing to House who hit a 2 or 3. As PP drove to the basket House mirrored his movement, except at the 3 point line, giving PP a perfect passing lane as he looked to someone to pass to. House does this all the time. We need to appreciate this guy.

Doctor Dribbles said:
  Don’t forget that Jeff Green—who also could’ve been a Celtic, in mirror world—didn’t have a great game either.

West isn’t anything special, but I can’t imagine Ainge was thrilled to lose him. For what West does, and the price he does it, he’s a good value the next two years.

This is an interesting statement, specifically where you mention DA not wanting to give up DWest. He also didn’t want to give up Jefferson and Gomes either. But I think one thing that may set DA apart from other GM’s is that he knows that in order to get something you need to give up something. When the KG stuff started last summer the Lakers and Suns seemed to be where he wanted to go, but either they were unwilling to pay the price or decided it wouldn’t make their teams better.