Daily Links 2/20

Favorites???? i think not,they are 6 pt dogs

covers.com (never heard of it) comments on blount are disheartening at best.
ainge traded away ricky and blount for ? either of those players is better trade bait then any young asset (other than big al, maybe) the c’s possess.

seriously, the talent ainge tossed to the curb in order to make this team his own is sickening. he deserves the record his kids have produced.

ps. i am by no means a blount fan, but i think we could have gotten allot more for him.

I agree with Arctic. Just think if we didn’t trade for Wally what assets we would have right now to make the trade we need. No one wants the players we want to trade, they want the few we want to keep. Danny has traded away most of the talent and left us with scrubs noone wants. The Celtics Doom article is depressing, but spot on.

Just think if we still had Ricky and Blount. We’d be able to assemble a much better package for whomever. Danny was so eager to trade Blount, that he made a bad deal (same as with the 1st Walker deal).

this team is like a car wreak. gruesome, yet i cant tear my eyes away from the scene.

someone wake me on friday. then i can go on with renewd hope, or pack it in till next season.
thanks DA
go get yourself an analyst position on TNT and bring doc with you, he can do the play by play.

Disagree with Murphy’s analysis of the roster. I keep hearing that this is an ill-fitted roster. I agree that we are stocked at power forward and the wings and lacking in the center/point guard positions, but not in terms of bodies, rather talent. But Ainge acquired our future point last draft, and our other big man will come this draft — of this I have no doubt since they’re there for the taking. So the talent will soon be as high as the body count.

Hey, Murph, What other team could have fielded a team that competed (we didn’t win but we competed in all but two games) having lost its two starting wings and main backup (Allen), its starting center, and two backup centers (Perk and Kandi), its back up power forward (we missed Al early on too), and its veteran pointguard. Answer: damned few if any. We always fielded a competitive team, regardless of the corpses lying behind in the foxhole. You’re off, Murph.

Nice to see the love for Blount and Davis now that Wally’s gone south. Blount was not desired by anyone in the nba and would not contribute here. Thus the horrid deal. Playing alongside KG bolsters his stats, ya think? Ricky still looks like his old self, he was a good player.

Maybe we should’ve just eaten Blount’s contract, the way we’re now eating Scal’s (and Wally’s). Not too many of you were on the “Save Blount” bandwagon last year. I for sure wasn’t. This is what happens to bad teams without enough on the depth chart to survive attitudinal problems like Blount’s.

The summer trade for the 3rd string pg to dump Raef’s contract for the #7 looms as the biggest blunder. Other owners would’ve just eaten Raef’s contract like Houston on the Knicks. >:(

Jackie McMullan gets a gold star from me for being the first “traditional media” writer in Boston to point out that the first Walker trade was a disaster and was the root of several other evils.

If another Globe, Herald, ProJo or Boston radio/TV analyst or columnist has done so, I missed it.

agree with the “Brickman”…Danny lost 2 yrs messing with Walker&O’B…if we were 2 yrs in this miss rather than 4 it would be easier to take….Walker&Bassy have been his disasters but ALL GM’s have’m and it takes one move/pick to make all right in Celticland…btw Danny,the sooner the better

How can you want to stand pat with this team as is? Keeping this pick means 3 more re-building years and bye-bye Paul Pierce. What do we have, 8 or 9 guys under the age of 24? Why not swap some out for veteran leadership; I would rather have a few average vets than all average rookies.

A real GM would be actively improving this team, of course a real GM wouldn’t have added 4 rookies to a already too young lineup this past offseason….

I am in the camp of doing something now, but I don’t mean RIGHT NOW, I mean after this season is over. I don’t want any more young guys unless his name is Oden.

Danny and Wyc’s line early on was that they could rebuild while still fielding a competitive team, and that they were better off with the playoff experience than not, etc.. I think that was part of ownership’s early mandate, although Danny bought in to it. So I think ownership feels some culpability for the slow descent (and the Blount signing? and not getting CP last year?) And there’s plenty of both truth and CYA in the youth excuse to go around.

Hey Jeff, does the public service announcement from the Paralyzed Veterans of America have anything to do with Ratliff and Szczerbiak?

 6 means the Celtics are underdogs, not favorites.

“Stillacelticfan” has it figured that Blount realized what a poor management the C’s had and tanked. I can’t imagine that he’s that smart.

I think that the combination of Blount and Garnett is a winning combo. It’s a far cry from Raef and Blount. If he were here, he’d still be a slacker, IMO.

I think consciously or unconsciously the Globe sportswriters are laying down a solid foundation argument to oust Ainge. I agree with the above post that dissing the Walker trade is key, because it set the tone for other well-intentioned but ultimately detrimental trades most notably in the form or Wally and Theo. You simply cannot ignore the fact that while he’s great at bringing in youth, Ainge is terrible at bringing in veterans. And THAT is the key to his failure.
Appreciate the subtleties of MacMullian’s arguments.

Question: Let’s say we tank properly and get Oden/Durant. Can we then next season stop calling Delonte West, Ryan Gomes, Kendrick Perksins and Al Jefferson “youngs.” At one point do they become “veterans”?

Jeff, I don’t know what you mean about MacMullen’s article. THis was the best researched and most insightful piece on the Celtics that I’ve seen. No one I’ve read has pointed out the paradox of the team’s youth and payroll inflexibility. And the graphics really show how the LaFrentz trade has dogged this team throughout the last four years.

After reading Wyc, Steve, and Danny’s quotes, though, I’m seriously thinking about giving up on the Celtics. The brass is so consumed with their own ideology and arrogance that even an 18 game losing streak can’t get them to question their managment of the team. There’s a complete lack of accountability at the top, and I think that filters down to the players and contributes to the culture of losing the owners and Danny have created. To say you can’t evaluate Ainge after four years is an insult to any intelligent, paying fan.

More than ever, one thing is clear: Wyc, Steve, and Danny would rather do things their way and lose, than change and win. This is Paul Gaston with deeper pockets and better marketing.

p_dawg, that was a great post. Absolutely dead on.