Stop Me When You've Heard This Before

This except about Wally from the AP story makes me cringe: “Szczerbiak, an eighth-year pro, has missed significant playing time in four of the last five seasons because of injuries”. Great pickup, Danny. Almost has good as the Telfair move.

actually i feel we were the better team and we just got out coached down the stretch and throughout the entire 3rd quarter.

you can thank the celtic leprechan for this latest “injury”.

Don’t call us tankers then, just call us “not good enough”.

soooo

countdown to allen ray cameo…3 2 1?

And the new losing streak begins.

Speaking of Telfair, anyone notice what Brandon Roy did tonight?

Who cares about Brandon Roy. Ray Allen dropped in 27 tonight…lets hope hes on his way to Boston soon 8)

“yeah lets trade for a former allstar on the decline… sounds like just what the celtics need….”

You mean the guy that’s averaging THIRTY a game over the last month and a half? That guy whose game is declining.

He’s not being dealt, don’t believe the hype.

Boston needs a center Al’s dong a fair job but Al isn’t the answer for that position. Notice in nearly every close game that Boston loses they lose because of poor interior defense and not getting key rebounds at the end of the games. That was also the case last night. At the same time Boston would get more opportunities on offense if they had a center that could get offensive rebounds, though Al does a fairly good job at getting offensive rebounds.
Rondo needs mid range shot and desperately needs to work on his free throws immediately to complete his game because this guy is going to be real good.

How many times have the Celtics shot over 50% and outrebounded the opposition and STILL managed to loose in Doc’s tenure?

Bottom line, the execution is awful with him at the helm. If Danny doesn’t get rid of him, he’s no better then Isiah as a GM.

While Jefferson may have defensive shortcomings we still can’t lay all the blame on him for lack of rebounding “at the end of games”. If Jefferson is our center, where is our “dominant” PF whose rebounding should complement that of Jefferson?

When your “undersized” center gets 15 rebounds in a game and has 25 double/doubles, how can you be critical if he doesn’t get ALL the rebounds at the end of games? Doesn’t it seem logical that the opposing team will make extra efforts to block him off the boards, especially in the critical closing minutes?

One wonders whether Wally ever heard of TAPING ones ankles, especially if they are prone to ankle sprains? Perhaps as a veteran he should consider consulting with Jefferson. Big Al strongly resisted having his ankles taped because he thought it would affect his mobility. His astounding string of double/doubles seems to discount “tape” as a significant hindrance.

Miccha" Boston needds a center.. poor interior defense..not getting key rebounds" / moskq: "we can’t lay all the blame on [Al].

Have to go with Moskq here. Re rebounds, Al batteled hard but waS fighting off 2 or 3 kings down under. Gomes and Scal were non-factors, then Doc went small. Powe might have helped, couldnt have hurt. As for
defense, the preimeter was leaking like a sieve much of the game. Gomes Scali (and Green) struggled. THis was a mathcup night where Gomes could not keep pace.

Hard to blame the national media for calling us tankers when a good portion of our own fans feel that’s exactly what we are doing.
I can’t even count how many arguments I’ve had on the subject.
I suppose it’s easier for the koolaid drinkers to believe we are losing on purpose than it is for them to believe some of our “kidz” just aren’t good enough to compete.

If the Celtics had shot 70% from the line and played at least some semblance of defense during the first 3 quarters they would have won the game.

Ricky isnt exactly the best locker room guy…not sure why you seem upset that he is gone.

And how many effing times has Doc just “forgotten” to use a timeout on last possessions with a chance to tie, and the Cs end up forcing up a shot? The first thing you need as a coach is good common sense, and Doc has none of that!

I agree that Wally sucks, but Ricky is still a me first type player and person. Hes exciting to watch, and deserves credit for how much hes matured, but judging by things Ive read and heard from when he was still on the team, I think Ricky would have hampered the development of…say…Al Jefferson.

No more might-have-beens, guys. We have what we have.

19 turnovers. 33 fouls. That undoes everything good we might do.

Whether Al is a 15 & 15 guy or a 20 & 12 guy, he still needs someone else in there.

ucn33 said:
  
And how many effing times has Doc just “forgotten” to use a timeout on last possessions with a chance to tie, and the Cs end up forcing up a shot? The first thing you need as a coach is good common sense, and Doc has none of that!
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Doc did call for a timeout. The refs didn’t give it to him. DWest could have called a timeout and didn’t. Also, timeouts in that situation gives the defense time to set up. For those blaming the missed free throws on Doc, I didn’t see Doc miss any. I also didn’t see Doc commit a turnover. But I agree. That’s all Doc’s fault. I know for a fact that in practice Doc emphasizes how to miss free throws and how to commit turnovers.

when the f*** did I say anything about missed FTs and turnovers? Im not talking just about last night…its happened several times where the Cs have had a chance to tie or win the game on the last possession, and Doc just “forgets” to call a to.

Thanks for putting words into my mouth, though.

It’s clear that Wally’s ankles aren’t healing before the team is sending him out, maybe they are trying to cripple him so he’ll retire?

The good news is it hasn’t been his (chronic) knee problem, and with the time off this year, his knee could be better than ever net year…