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Moving On - An Epic Summer Awaits

The Daily Dime discussed the Celtics briefly today.  Basically, they came up with the same conclusion that I did a few weeks ago.  See my article called Crucial Summer.  The gist: This summer is make or break time for Ainge.

Should the Celtics be more proactive?

Ford: When I talked to Jeff Schwartz today, Pierce's agent, I got the impression that, Hey, Pierce is hanging in, he's being the good soldier, he loves Boston, he'd love to be there, but he's not going to wait around forever. It seems like this rebuilding process in Boston is taking forever.

Stein: I would say those changes have to happen before next season. ...

They're hoping that lottery luck shines on them this time because it didn't last time. Maybe they get one of the top two picks. ...

I think by May and June we will see what you would term Danny Ainge's last hurrah. He certainly has got to come up with something before next season. There's no way the Celtics can go into next season with Pierce and a bunch of kids, Hey, we're going to give it the old college try. They've got to make a monumental move by then.

But not doing it by this deadline, I personally don't have a huge problem with it.

Like I said before, I plan on going into this at length soon enough, but we've got the rest of the season to discuss that.  So no huge rush.

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We seem to have three possibilities this summer:

1. Get the 1 or 2 pick. If we do this, I would favor making a huge push for a big named veteran [with Kidd, Gasol, Garnett, and Bibby on the market potentially], even if this includes Jefferson in the mix. I am a huge Jefferson fan, but an Oden or Durant can fill the “superstar to carry us in five years” role that this team needs for future stability. A veteran star, especially a Garnett or a point guard, could help solidifiy this team. I don’t know if the result would be a team that can win the East, but we would, at the very least, be a winning team that could take our division and probably better than if we simply kept Jefferson.

2. If we get the 3-5 or whatever pick. I’d like to see that traded for a veteran [see above]. Jefferson, instead of being a prime bit of trade bait, is now our future anchor.

3. We get a pick in 1-5, and say screw it, trade Pierce and try to build only for the future. I don’t like it [unless we were to get both the first and second picks and I doubt that’ll happen]. If we were gonna trade Pierce, the time to do it is either in a year or two or a couple years ago when Chris Paul was [theoretically] available.

Thoughts?

by jarobiso on Feb 23, 2007 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

That sounds about right, jarobiso. Like you say, it all depends on the draft pick. I know there has been some criticism of the Celtics for placing all their eggs in the Oden/Durant basket, considering the best case scenario is still less than 50/50, but I honestly don’t know what else they can do. As this trade deadline showed, teams are overvaluing their own players (Celtics included) and GMs are gun-shy at making significant deals. It may also be that the NBA restrictions on trades make it excesively difficult to get these things done. Regardless, I don’t see a significant turnaround happening from a blockbuster trade. The proposed Gasol-Jefferson deal is a good example – what good is a deal for a 20-8 guy if you have to trade a 17-10 guy to get him. The Celtics need to hope for Oden or Durant, and, failing that, hope that Danny can come up with a Dwayne Wade-like steal with a pick in the 3-5 range. I just don’t see it happening without more than a little luck w/ a draft pick.

by smiggity on Feb 23, 2007 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

If they land Oden, they’ll look only to get what they can for a combo of the Ratliff/Telfair in the summer, then Tony Allen/Minny’s future 1 by the trade deadline.
If they land Durant, you’ll see Gerald Green moved (same style player). Maybe in combo w/ Wally/Minny’s future 1 to shed the salary and to get back something fairly substanative in return.
I’ve been consistent in my view to trade Pierce. But the feedback from this blog has been we wouldn’t get equal/near equal value in return.
If we draft outside of the top 2, I’d hope we would be much more active and bold in restructuring this team … not to build around Pierce … we have 3 guys making $40m … collectively, a bad investment … worst record cuz’ we have worst talent …. moving Pierce to open cap space and look to get back young talent. Danny tried to rebuild with picks in the lower half of the draft …

by When17 on Feb 23, 2007 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

Make or break summer for Ainge? Are you serious? I’d like to see the definitions, or an example of, what you consider to be a “great” GM, or better GM, since Danny took over.

by tmcdon on Feb 23, 2007 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

What the Celtics should do is simple, really. Wait until we find out what # draft pick the Cs get. If their pick is not in the top 2 (and maybe even if its not the #1), trade the pick and some players for a star veteran such as Ray Allen. If they get the top pick, take Oden.

All and all, things should really work themselves out…so long as Danny plays his cards right.

Oh, and fire Doc should be first priority this offseason.

by ucn33 on Feb 23, 2007 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

Assuming we get a top 2 pick, I can totally see DA do something he tried to do a few years ago and should have been doing the last couple of years, find some Euro guys. The majority of them come in with much better fundamental skills than 1 or 2 year college guys, and seem to be much more willing to do the dirty work.

With a top 2 rookie, and a Euro player (most likely a big), then DA should work the phones and put Ratliffs contract, along with a couple of the young guys, to tighten up the team.

by cos on Feb 23, 2007 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

Let’s wait and see how the NCAA tournament unfolds before declaring anything less than the number 2 pick automatic trade fodder. Ainge is nothing if not a good judge of talent, and I’d trust him if he becomes sold on a player not named Durant or Oden.

Obviously the number one priority for this summer, and one that could improve our team greatly in the future, is firing Doc Rivers and finding a suitable replacement.

by NYDan on Feb 23, 2007 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

They must find a new coach and it has to be the right coach. That is much more important than anything they could do in the draft or via trade.

If they do not fire Rivers this Summer they will have to fire him before Christmas, which likely means another wasted year under an interim coach.

by Brickowski on Feb 23, 2007 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Stein is 100% right, and so is Paul.

by truthhurts34 on Feb 24, 2007 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

“Assuming we get a top 2 pick, I can totally see DA do something he tried to do a few years ago and should have been doing the last couple of years, find some Euro guys. The majority of them come in with much better fundamental skills than 1 or 2 year college guys, and seem to be much more willing to do the dirty work.”

In the second round draft Marc Gasol (he is playing great great this year)and give another asset to Pau moving to the Celtics.
With Durant in the number 2, we would have Ratliff, Green, Allen,Perkins,Gomes, one-two PG… Maybe enough for the Grizzlies?

by Galiza Ceive on Feb 24, 2007 2:34 AM EST reply actions  

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