Not Even Close

this team is bad

Hey, another double-double by Jefferson though.

Hey, stop complaining. Didn’t you see how well organized they were out there? Doc is doing a great job— Wyc Grousbeck said so!

SI Sports interviewed NBA scouts and Telfair made the top 5 worse defensive players in the league. Way to go with the #7 pick!

I said it the night of the draft: M. Williams will be a top 5 point eventually in this league. Rondo is not bad with a low 1st round pick, but we passed on M. Williams for Rondo. We could have had Roy or Gay; and M. Williams and it would have been an awesome draft. Awful Ainge.

We are in full tank mode. My hope is that the attendance continues to go down and Wyc suffers financially for putting the fans through this. Glad to see we didn’t sell out for Miami- world champs, Wade/Shaq, etc. You fans can do what you like with your $$$, I am rooting for low home attendance.

Unbelievable about wanting to keep Doc. Every NBA t.v. announcer now gives a little laugh/smirk whenever they mention the Boston Celtics. We are a joke!.

Raptos coach, a nobody, a filler until the Suns assistant becomes available with a team as young as ours, has the Raptors playing 27-15 ball over the last 42 wins- and some of you bloggers want to keep Doc until the season is over or give him another chance with a better roster. PLEASE. If Doc was a dog, he would have been put down a long time ago for humanity reasons.

I want Durant or Oden, I also want a professional basketball team.

I’ll say it right now, I will predict we don’t get Oden or Durant. Although unlikely, either one may decide to stay an extra year. Karma is going to kill us! No organization would go through 17 straight loses (in the NFL that’s a whole F-ing season) and not make a change.

If we follow the majority of the bloggers strategy, we not only throw this season away tanking, we throw it away keeping Doc who won’t develop the players correctly, and we may end up with someone like Noah who will crap out.

This is one of the worst organizations in pro sports, period.

u wanted them to lose jeff

Even when Pierce comes back, we aren’t going to make a “run” of any sort. Look at Toronto, they went from 2-8 to playing great ball. The Knicks were the joke of the NBA last year, they are vastly improved from the start of the season. Philly has been playing better than 500 ball without Iverson. The rest of the NBA teams are all improving, we are regressing even despite the injury.

The key is, our team is awful and not improving (Big AL exception).

We need Danny and Doc out! And Wyc needs to sell the team too if he thinks as fans we should accept his purposely deameaning this franchise. I want Oden or Durant but this is ridiculous.

I would be on board for trading Pierce if it meant a sure lottery pick this year plus more young talent (of course filler contracts to make #s work).

As great as Durant/Oden may become, Pierce is getting up there in dog years and we don’t have the ability to surround him with players to make a championship run.

I’d go the route of the Bulls or the Raptors. These teams are on the right track.

Edgar, I think it would cost us Big AL, and our top pick for Gasol. We may still not make the playoffs even with Gasol. Who knows for example if Pierce will stay healthy the rest of the season? There are still concerns too on Gasol’s long term health.

I’m with Edgar… get Gasol… NOW!

“I’m Doc Rivers, I’m a complete mongoloid who plays Paul Pierce for 20 minutes when he can’t hit the broad side of a barn and is visibly winded because he just got out of the hospital after spending TWO NIGHTS THERE. In addition to this, I have burned the pages of the playbook in which Gerald Green runs off screens like Rip Hamilton does in Detroit because those plays have about a 75% success rate because Gerald shoots much better when he’s coming off screen’s on the run. Even though we lost by 14 and Paul Pierce shot 4-20 I’m going to blame this particular loss on the refs and the crowd. The crowd really let us down. When Paul came into the game off the bench there was a standing ovation which I think slowed things down and distracted us, we’re a young team, we need complete silence from our fans. We are not smart enough to be able to deal with crowd noise, good or bad. In closing, don’t forget that Pitchers and Catchers report in 6 days, so by all means as of Feb 15, don’t give the Celtics a second thought. I wouldn’t want you guys looking at my actual track record and judging me critically.”

My God! Get some veterans in here that know how to play! Keep PP, Al, Rondo, Allen and Gomes and trade the rest for vets.

And please, make Delonte a spot up shooter and stop letting him handle the ball. He’s not a good point guard. Don’t tell me you guys didn’t notice West trying to control the point guard position to start the game, turning Rondo in the the SG, turning it over the first 3 possessions of the game. If Telfair was playing the way West did (althogh he did shoot well), he’d be getting killed right now.

Hi Guys.

I don’t think this is what the Celtics mean when they talk about Green 17.

Was at the game with my wife. (Boy THIS was the wrong year to become a season ticket holder.) Anyhoo… same old same old. Like Wednesday night, the first TO came about 20 seconds into the game. Plenty more where that come from. Delonte played tough. Al got his boards. And that was about it. Very little defense played by either team.

But really, who cares. The only thing keeping this season from being a total loss is the possiblity we get a franchise level player in June – by no means a sure thing, I know, but what else we got?

One thing I will say, though. So often this year we’ve talked abot moral victories: we lost BUT Al got a double double; we lost but Delonte had 11 assists. Whatever. But it struck me watching the seond half of this game that no one – NO ONE – in this league gives us their best game. The reason the Celtics come storming back so often is because other teams jump out to huge leads, then KNOW the game is in the bag, so they back off. That’s when Gerald usually pours in 8-10 points to pad his stats. And Al has come a long way, but you watch the team and realize that one reason he pulls down so many boards is there isn’t one other player right now who can rebound with any consistency.

Miami and New Jersey both played like the North foughht the Civil War: one arm behind their backs. Whenever they felt the game was getting a little too close, they stepped on the gas a bit and dusted the C’s.

This is just something to think about for the folks who talk about the value of our kids. When someone puts up strong numbers in a loss, it’s often because the other team isn’t playing very hard. And why should they? If you’re a playoff team, would you like to lose and all-star trying to beat the Celtics?

we need some veterans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys, why do we want Gasol? There are roughly 33 games left in the season. Do the math! We are 12 games behind 8th place Miami for a playoff push. We are 14 1/2 games behind Toronto.

It would take Gasol, Kobe, and Dirk for us to catch the Raptors. Not only are we 12 games out of 8th, we literally have to climb over every single team to make a playoff run.

In the off season, maybe get Gasol, right now he does nothing but drops us to a #10 or so pick at the end of the season. I’d rather get a decent coach in here ASAP, than make the trade.

Pdawg, I agree exactly what you are saying. I maybe have caught only a third to a forth of the regular season games, but every game I have watched I seem to see the same things. When other teams want, they can just put it in another gear and put us away. It happened last year too when teams knew they only needed to keep it close and we didn’t have an inside game to match.

Management and announcers scream that we are young, but other young teams have the ability to play good D, and it starts from there. Telfair was voted one of the top guards in the league as the “worst defensive player”. Green is a poor defender. Many times Al is a project, etc.

Until excuses are stopped and new coaching/management blood comes in, nothing will change. We may beat the Bucks in a few days and for some that will take all the pressure off; for me “no” there needs to be change.

I want Oden/Durant, but even with the worse record in the league, we have less than a 50-50 shot of getting a top 2 pick.

I don’t know what is going to have to happen before changes are made.

Hey you guys know this is going to be a losing season. I’m glad some of you are taking it so well.

im not taking it well

Where are the kool aid drinkers? I posted on here before the season started we would not make the playoffs (about 78 or 80% said we would).

Now a lot of you guys were much more optomistic about the start of the season than I was and this has been a dose of reality for all of us. Even with Pierce being Pierce and the younger guys developing, we were destined for 38W even if healthy. As I said before game #1, the Raptors are vastly improved, the Knicks won’t be as horrible, etc. It is not a shock to me we aren’t a playoff team. For the roughly 80% of you that thought we were playoff bound, this has got to be like the Titanic sinking. It shocks me even more that you don’t want to can Doc.

Now we have switched beverages to TANK JUICE. Mangement is in free tank mode. Any of you saying we should keep Doc, you have lost your kool aid. Around the NBA, fans are now calling us the Boston Tankers. Keeping Doc IMO is equivalent to a tank job, so what fans around the country are saying about Celtic fans being tankers has a lot of vailidity if only 1/5 of us want a coaching change.
Many of you wrote, just give the kids time, wait and see. Well, I gave the kids time, over half a season. Simply put: Doc Celtics 2006-07 equals failure.

Ironically about 78% of you guys still want to keep Doc. Why? And some of you (1/4) want to give him another try with a better roster? Do you think I would want him anywhere near a Oden or Durant? Doc has done squatdoodle with our youth. He doesn’t have them playing team ball, they are horrible defenders, etc.

I am disppointed that this fan base either still has confience in Doc’s coaching abilities, or would rather see this team rot the season away, instead of getting a good young sound coach like the Bulls/Raptors have. With a new coach we can at least play better fundamental basketball and have a more competitive product next year.

This is no way near the franchise I devoted myself to as a fan for 40 years.

Accidentally put this in the wrong thread — Just so painful to be there and experience this team tonight. I wish they could get rid of everyone from Doc to Wyc. Every time Wyc walked by my seats tonight I wanted to throw something at him. Just an absolute embarrassment. The #7 for Sebastian Telfair gets worse every game. The trade for Wally looks worse every game. But I know, none of this is Danny’s fault, right?

Vinny, this is just awful. It is painful when the fans care more about the team than Wyc, Danny and Doc put together. They have circled the wagons and gone into full tank mode. As an athlete, I never tanked a second in my life, but to see this organization do it, and seemingly the massive majority fan base join lock step with them (80% want to keep Doc) pains me.

This is a great blog!! I get to keep up with the Green faithful from a far. Did anyone read the article on Doc today on the Herald? These guys are deflated and only one thing came to mind, they need a direction! The methidoligy of winning and rebuilding, that ownership has employed is a model for disaster in the NBA, as we can see. Is it really Doc’s fault? Now I am not defending him here at all but how soon we forget the disasterous strategic move Bruins ownership made before the lock out and then handed everyone their papers when it failed. lets face it ownership of any business has a bottomline, a marketing < PP> engine and profit margins to hold up and don’t think for a second that any desision that is made doesn’t factor in all of these things.

I thought Ainge should have taken Marcus Williams with the seventh pick and nothing he has done has made me change my mind. I’d take him over Foye, Roy or Rondo, and I like Rajon, but Williams is a Steve Nash type point guard in the making. Talk about missed opportunities.

A little perspective please. Let’s enjoy racking up all the losses we can in the next 2 or 3 weeks and if Pierce and the team stays relatively healthy, we can then evaluate Doc and see how the team comes together the last 6 weeks of the season. If we luck out and get a top two draft pick even top four) we may begin to see our way out of the desert (or whatever metaphor you’d like).

this is fantastic. here’s to hoping we can make it 18 straight tomorrow night :)

The way this season has gone has made me nearly throw a remote thru my new LCD big screen every time I watch them play! The worst season of any of my sports teams EVER! $169 down the drain for League Pass!
That said, doing anything this year, other than going for a #1 or 2 pick in the draft would be completely insane! What, make a move to win a handful more games and end up with a 10-12 pick, which nobody wants, and won’t make us much, if any, better! Remember, how pride won us our last game, last season, and cost us the 6th pick! Let’s face it, there is no pride left to garner this year that makes sense!
Even if Oden and Durant don’t come out, and you get one of the top two picks, some team is ALWAYS in love with someone and willing to make great deals come draft time. Then you make a move—not now!
So, please, let’s not let pride get in the way this year, and screw things up for the next ten!

It saddens me how many “fans” are content to sit back and watch a once storied franchise become the laughingstock not only of the NBA, but of the country. Wyc, Danny, Doc et al have to go.

I am 100% certain that Oden will be declaring for the NBA draft.

“It saddens me how many "fans” are content to sit back and watch a once storied franchise become the laughingstock not only of the NBA, but of the country. Wyc, Danny, Doc et al have to go."

As opposed to becoming a mediocre team that misses the playoffs and ends up with a #7ish pick again? When it became clear that this team would not be in postseason play, and theinjuries have become insurmountable, one cant help but not feel a little happy with the way this team continues to lose.

Right now, Im more concerned about our young guys getting valuable minutes against good teams than the W-L record.

I like Rondo a lot, but I cant but think how good Marcus Williams wouldve made Pierce, Jefferson, Green, and whatever pick we end up with this season :’(

Prediction: watch DA trade the first or second pick of the draft for an ill-injured has been all star that has one good year left before he gets injured again. It is right there in the making, and if that happens I say to all you Celtic-loyalists, boycott these crappy games and put them out of business, because this is a joke…

I think Mike Gorman does a terrific job with the play-by-play. Tommy seems to be getting progressively worse…and he isnt even an exciting announcer to listen to anymore. All he seems to do is talk about missed calls by the refs.

I like Donny a whole lot better already.

I tuned in for about 5 minutes twice. I don’t remember seeing such bad basketball. I don’t have any kids, so I can’t compare it to hi school. People just careening out of control all over the court and the other team just walking in and taking shots.

Hey, you get what you pay for?

I feel bad for Paul Pierce.

Just an all arouund depressing season………the only hope is to continue losing and roll the dice for Oden/Durant. If that doesn’t happen prepare for another ten years of this.

C’s lose another game to the equally struggling Nets. Basically the game was over in the 3rd. Pierce made a comback, but just contributed to the bricklaying. The C’s were outshot, but they didn’t win the boards. Marcus Williams will be a thorn to Celtics teams in the future.

Pluses: Jefferson 17 boards, 11 team steals

Minuses: Only 14 assists

Bottomline: Although we want to let Doc finish the year for continuity sake, the number of blowouts have been more numerous. I hope the young players don’t get fed up. Somethings got to give. For those of us still here. Its better to watch the individual players than to focus on wins/losses. We need to make upgrades.

I mean…did we really think a PP just coming back from injuries after a long layoff, and just out of the hospital, would really look like his old self?

I guess I could buy into the possibility that his presence alone would lead to a win (by rallying the troops), but then again he’s not exactly the epitome of “making the guys around you better” type of player. He’s more the Alpha Dog gun slinger type.

I don’t know where I’m going with this except to say that we really do need Oden or Durant in this draft – if just to gain some momentum going in the right direction.