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Last year we did a quick poll asking if you were more of a Hickman (pessimist), a Gilroy (fence sitter), or a Kool Aid drinker. That was fun, but I hesitate putting people into categories like that. In fact, it only serves to increase snippiness between those that label other posters as "haters" or "pessimists" or the like.

So in the spirit of Facebook or even MySpace, I thought I'd open the forum for people to describe themselves in a quick blurb. What are your views on the current situation? In what direction do you typically lean?

One quick note: If you want anyone to read your profile, you might want to heed the words of the Bard - "Brevity is the soul of wit."

Jeff Hickman

hickman.jpgI believe that the C's are heading in the wrong direction, but should tank based on the talent in this years draft. I also think that Danny has failed miserably as a GM. I am scared that during the off-season he has to make a trade for a veteran, it won't be a good one because his track record is terrible at making trades. The Raef trade has been an iron
cast around the feet of this organization since it was made. I also think Wally was a huge mistake. I believe if the C's truly want to go young than they need to trade pierce for more young talent and draft picks and go full force.

Patrick Gilroy

gilroy.jpgI believe that Danny needs to make a trade right away, even if the cost is high. It will keep Paul pierce happy, and keep him demanding a trade. I think Pau Gasol is the answer to many of our problems and also think our young players are severely overrated. I believe we need talent now, and that any veterans will help lead this team to more victories.

Jeff Clark

clark.jpgI believe the Celtics were going about things the right way and would have been a lot better next year but bottoming out this year is actually a huge bonus in terms of draft position. I’m an eternal optimist and Danny Ainge apologist, though that faith has been tested quite a bit lately. I would love to keep all the kids in house but I’d rather make a move this summer to finally cash in on some of the chips Danny has gathered. I see a winning lottery ticket, a trade for an All Star, and a 20+ game turnaround next year.

So, what is your profile?

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by Silent Storm on Mar 6, 2007 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

I see it like Jeff Clark sees it.

by Zoots on Mar 6, 2007 7:11 PM EST reply actions  

I was born and raised an optimist for all my sports teams (yes even the Sox). It’s been a tough two seasons for the C’s and they may or may not have to improve for me to continue my optimism. Although they are now fighting Sox spring training games for my attention.

by ReadyFor17 on Mar 6, 2007 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

I consider myself Jeff like. I think that at the end of the season we will be in a great position to snag a top pick that will have a huge impact on us next year. I think what we are seeing from Jefferson is just the tip of a beautiful iceberg. I think that rondo will shoot 2000 shots per day in the off season and at least be respectable so teams will no longer be able to play him strictly for the pass. I think D-west will practice “going Right” and improve. I think gomes will continue to surprise. I think G money will gain strength and get a better handle and take the leap that Jefferson took. I also think that Wally will contact Barry bonds and have steroids shot directly into his ankles making them bloated but very strong. He will be our overpaid kyle korver..with giant steroid ankles. Oh, and I think that tony allen will come back better than he was before. Better, stronger, faster. Just like Lee majors. 20 game improvement jeff…I am with ya!

by Dickretro on Mar 6, 2007 7:23 PM EST reply actions  

Gilroy, with one and soon two eyes looking over at Hickman.

by Big_Easy on Mar 6, 2007 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

I’m a Clark. All the C’s need is a little luck, one savvy move by Danny, and another summer of basketball growth with the youngsters and we can easily be a top 4 team in the East next year! The one of these I’m most pessimistic about is the luck… Hopefully 2007 is the year we can look back at as the end of the C’s little ‘curse!’

by ntlmenke on Mar 6, 2007 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

I’m an optimist. Heck, isn’t everyone visiting this site an optimist?!

Ainge’s trades have been bad. To think that he resigned Blount, but ran off a defensive center like Battie is incredible. His drafting has been decent to great. And the fact that he somehow convinced PP to reup seems miraculous now.

He has the offseason to redeem himself or make a messy exit.

by LuckyNumber07 on Mar 6, 2007 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

I think it is impossible to ascertain where the Celtics are headed until they find a better head coach.

by Brickowski on Mar 6, 2007 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

Jeff – is that finally you? Revealed for the 1st time? Well, you look pretty normal to me, despite certain flaws in your logical and analytical abilities, and for a man who once told me that sleep is overrated. On this subject above I fall pretty much into your circle of logic.

My thoughts in dialogue:

“I am puzzled about the current state of the Celtics.” – Young Grasshopper

’That is the beginning of wisdom.
Is it not better to think of what you will find, than what you will lose?" – Master Po

“So Master should we trade the #1 Pick to appease The Truth?” – Young Grasshopper

“The sage says, ‘That which shrinks must first expand. That which fails must first be strong. That which is cast down, must first be raised. Before receiving there must first be giving.’” – Master Po

“I am still confused Master by that answer” – Young Grasshopper

“Go inside the temple walls and call Wyc as he is also confused” – Master Po

 

 ;) ;)

by Master Po on Mar 6, 2007 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Lucky, there is a difference between “diehards” and “optimists” – there are plenty of diehards that think this team is really messed up (and not without reason)

yes Po, that is my sleep deprived mug

by Jeff Clark on Mar 6, 2007 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

i wish we were in Russia and the jeff clarks of the world were in power so we could make all of you think the way we do.

by Stoned Alone on Mar 6, 2007 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

Sleep deprived jeff?/ more like keg induced. :D

by Dickretro on Mar 6, 2007 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

I am a Jeff Clark

by wahz on Mar 6, 2007 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

No… I am Jeff Clark.

by Rick Robey Reruns on Mar 6, 2007 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

I’m closer to Jeff Clark than Hickman and Gilroy. Gilroy’s “placate Pierce by landing a veteran” plan represents the same kind of reactionary measure the Cavs made when they signed Hughes and Z to appease LeBron, and I strongly disagree with his assessment of Pau Gasol (whom he is trumpeting his praises for all over the radio and tv). As for Hickman’s stance, I think Pierce has shown a remarkable maturation in the last two seasons that will allow him to lead this group of young pups on playoff pushes over the next few seasons.

I share in Jeff’s optimism, but this is indeed a “do or die” summer for Ainge, and some of it (the draft pick) is out of his control. Let’s hope we get super-lucky for once. If not, well…

by The Fox on Mar 6, 2007 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

I’m an optimist.

I think this team and its staff are a lot better than this year’s record dictates, and it’s really starting to show with Al, Gerald and D-West making leaps in stats. I think Gomes and Scal are great role players, and if Pierce can be convinced to stay, he’ll put a banner up before he’s done. Perk should be a great backup center, which will suit him much better given his foot condition, but I don’t think he should have a starter role going forward.

I don’t think Doc is a great coach, although I don’t think he’s terrible one either. I think he’s been good for the youth. Look at Al and Delonte – they have a sense of loyalty and dedication that most players don’t find their whole career, and I think you have to give credit to Doc for instilling them with that pride. People are looking for Doc’s head on a pike, but I think fans need to have more patience.

In a way, Pierce’s injury was a blessing in disguise. The kids needed some time to learn how to perform under pressure, without relying on Paul so much. And yeah, they obviously weren’t successful, but now that Paul’s back, they’re a much better team than before his leave.

As for the team’s overall direction, if they can keep a healthy squad for 80% of next season, I see this as a .500 team, possibly better, high lottery pick or not. They’re only starting to develop some real chemistry now, and it can only go up from here.

by timothy.michael.clark on Mar 6, 2007 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

I think we’re screwed if we don’t have a very good off season. Otherwise, it may be mediocrity for years.

by cblake on Mar 6, 2007 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Jeff, sorry to speak off subject here, but I just thought of a really fun draft Cheap Seats for whoever has the time to write it: Brandan Wright vs. Joakim Noah. I mean, let’s just go ahead and assume our luck continues to vex us and we wind up not with the first or second pick but the third pick. Which string bean do you pick then?
Discuss…

by Big_Easy on Mar 6, 2007 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

I clearly come down on the optimistic end of the spectrum. Ainge has collected some terrific talent and has been patient. I recall his predecessor had a problem with patience. I think the new ownership really cares and has the right attitude. Doc has been about as good a coach as you could have with this kind of team. The players like him, have held together and have consistently played hard for him under difficult circumstances. And the fans reaction and excitement about a team endorses what management and the team have done despite its 17-42 record.

There are some stars that just may be coming into alignment for the Celtics and I think management has seen this kind of opportunity coming (excluding their higher than expected pick). The value of their youth has grown. The players that should be available in trades this off-season combined with the high draft pick theyâ€â"¢ll get (even if itâ€â"¢s the 3rd through 5th pick) should converge to give them a good opportunity to keep a very strong group of talented youth while acquiring another strong veteran. If they get lucky and get a top two pick I think the pieces are there for long fun ride. If not, the pieces are still there for an emerging championship contender. Howâ€â"¢s that for optimism?

by SteveZ from Edgemont on Mar 6, 2007 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

Jeff,
 How much of an optimist are you? Do you think Doc is part of the answer going forward?

Well, if we can get lucky in the draft and Danny can get a current All Star this summer, how can I not be with Jeff.

by Little D on Mar 6, 2007 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

ReadyFor17,
You mean two decades right?

by Little D on Mar 6, 2007 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

I love how the analysts in this town don’t know anything well the locals. Pau Gasol…very soft. Boston maybe a great sports city but not many want to come play for the Celts. We shall see.

by richardlight86 on Mar 6, 2007 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

After seeing the photos, I’m not convinced “Jeff Hickman,” “Patrick Gilroy,” and “Jeff Clark” aren’t actually all the same person.

by obnoxiousmime on Mar 7, 2007 1:06 AM EST reply actions  

I’m with Jeff. It’s the darnes CBlog brainwashing and propaganda ;)

by kozlodoev on Mar 7, 2007 2:07 AM EST reply actions  

  I kind of agree with Jeff, but until we know where the ping pong balls land, I can’t recommend a trade. Even if we got the number 2 pick, unless we had some uber assurance who was going numero uno, it would still be difficult to trade. But some of the younguns have to go, even if for low draft picks. Just no way we can keep em all. Per above: if we got Odom, would want to keep GG. But if we got Durant, then would trade GG. If we are down in the fivish, would like Gasol perhaps and draft one of the bigs who can bound at least.

by Wilt on Mar 7, 2007 3:57 AM EST reply actions  

“I also think that Wally will contact Barry bonds and have steroids shot directly into his ankles making them bloated but very strong. He will be our overpaid kyle korver..with giant steroid ankles”
That is exactly what this team needs: steroids (the secret of professional sport success). Maybe we can be in contact with the Doctor of Floyd Landis.

by Galiza Ceive on Mar 7, 2007 6:52 AM EST reply actions  

this has been the worst of seasons. having to root for your team to lose for the ping pong balls is not good for one’s well being. it makes it hard to be an optimist.i agree with brick, the absolute move is a new coach-crucial. keeping doc is a big mistake. don’t let the ’he’s a nice guy and the youth are loyal’stuff get in the way. he has been slow to move in games and making decisions about who plays and will not get better. telfair has been bad but this coach is part of his problem.

by nazzbo on Mar 7, 2007 8:03 AM EST reply actions  

In the last analysis a GM has to be “lucky”. Red repeatedly admitted that he NEVER could foresee that COUSY would be THAT good, that Russell would be THAT dominant, That Hondo would be THAT great and even that Bird would become so SPECIAL.

We don’t need another Len Bias, Reggie Lewis, another Tim Duncan let-down.

While Danny has a knack for evaluating “potential” and over-rates their value because he envisions what “could be” (ala Jefferson) we need a 4-leaf clover most of all.

by moskqq on Mar 7, 2007 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

Hickman here. One more bad trade should sink the Good Ship Ainge. I hope Rivers goes down with the ship too.

by aQua on Mar 7, 2007 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

Grasshoppers make great bait for bass fishing. :D

by aQua on Mar 7, 2007 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

After all the bad-awful trades Ainge has made how can anyone defend him. Must be living in another planet

by flyfisher on Mar 7, 2007 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

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