Lame duck or New Duck is the Way to Go

Fire Doc.

Rivers is a duck who can’t walk, swim or fly. All he can do is squawk. Sayonara.

one more year

I dont consider Doc’s(or the team’s) year as being comfortable AT ALL. You have got to to be kidding me about his overall win/loss record as well…I mean the Magic during rebuilding mode as well as the C’s in Rebuilding/contending/rebuilding whatever you want to call it mode?? I am not really a Doc fan, but if i see something that i do not agree with i will present my points. We all know, to be effective in basketball you need a Big man. Doc has had Raef, Gin Baker, Scalabrine, Olowakandi, Perk, and Al(half injured through career) to work with. So look at those vets combined with the Ages and injuries of Al and Perk(ankles/dis. shoulder). Is it fair to be mad @ doc’s job considering the hand he was dealt? I blame Danny Ainge much more than Doc. Doc has t least earned a “Coach of the Year” award while Danny imo has earned “worst trade of the year” more than once. The most important thing to me, is that through and through none of these kids have quit on Doc, and vice-versa. Look at the acquisitions Danny has made for our team…(Scals, Theo, Kandi, Wally etc.)thats over 27 million sitting on a bench injured, not to mention they aren’t quality players. So would you rather Doc be this miracle coach that somehow makes 8 projects, 4 injured vet scrubs and a superstar have another 30 win season while getting another 15-20 range pic? No thanks…i’d give doc a one year extension and Danny can face the can if we don’t get the #2 pick and if he fails with this Theo trade…

“Earn it”

Simply put, it seems that Doc will stay with the team, but no extention will be granted.

If Doc wants an extention then coach next season and earn your “new contract”

Otherwise, he should leave and head to the broadcast booth and allow someone else the chance to improve on this team.

I’m a big Doc fan and supporter, but…..he’s beginning to wear thin on me….. as much as he has been the father figure for these kids… they truly need more development and training.

Its put up or shut-up for Wyc And Danny….The whole things getting old and they re in charge. Regardless of who the coach is, they must give him and OUR CITY a better hand than a 2nd to last place team…..Its just getting redundant…us being a laughing stock that is.

Doc is great at keeping a losing team from sliding into internal conflict. He’s had plenty of practice.

The question is, do you want a winning team or a bunch of happy losers? Doc is a loser. Fire him.

Nicely done, hagrid, As is said, What we have here is a failure to communicate…“Hey, how about say another 10 Mill and I promise I’ll move my family North of the Mason-Dixon line”…(Maybe)…

Sorry Doc, the injuries, youth, and inexperience have cost Paul endorsements and recognition…likewise it has cost you an extension…Your move…You know, Lame-Duck-Doc has kinda got a ring to it…Hope it makes ya hungry…

I want him fired. No lame duck. Get him outta here. There are good coaches on the market who may not be on the market a year from now.

The fictional Hagrid’s far smarter than the one using his name here. Look at the team he’s had in each of those years, the long-term injuries to keys players and then explain how much better we would have been under what coach with that team. Rivers has handled this season very well but shortsightedness is the catch perspective here.

The way the young players and Pierce have responded to the Rivers gives him high marks for the most important coaching attribute for a team like the Celtics. Continuity for the young guys is particularly valuable. A new coach is no guarantee of anything and carries risks of wasting another season adjusting and brings the chance chemistry is unsettled or simply bad. I don’t see a lot of specifics on a realistic, ideal replacement for Doc. He should be extended for a year

look, doc might be a great guy. yes, hes kept everyone together in this debacle of a season, and sure he finally started giving guys the playing time they deserve, but hes not a good coach. the only reason people are getting the time they deserve is due to injuries. what he didnt see in some of these kids that I saw in pre-season, i’ll never know. last night was just another example to his bad coaching. we got the rebound with 18 sec or so to go, and still, like all season long… NO TIMEOUT!!!! every coach in the world calls one there. we got lucky with a bad call, and won the game, but thats besides the point. doc would be the best assistant coach in the league, but as a head coach, no. i’d rather see m.l. carr back than this guy. please for my sanity, bring in a good coach.

I know, Brick, it’s just that I don’t have behind the scenes information enough to exact that kind of absolute…I would love to see him gone, but the guys closest to the scene and the players don’t seem as adamant as we fans do for some inexplicable reason…
It’s my feeling, right now, that he will be allowed to at least begin the final year with no extension…That wouldn’t freak me out completely; but, it just might freak him out…he bolts for TV, the Celts save 5 large and we fanatics are happy and hopeful once again…
As far as coaches on the horizon, i don’t know of any that aren’t supposedly spoken for except Paul Silas, if Mitchell takes on Charlotte; but, then again, there’s Billy D (if only I could erase Pitino’s image from my mind)…

Name an available coach that we could hire to replace him?! I am not saying he’s a great coach, but I don’t think he is that bad either. Who has proven they are a better coach that will come in? If we just hire guys who might be good coaches then we are going to keep doing this same thing every 2-3 years… Not one post above neamed a name!! Would we rather have Pitino? He was going to come in and save the franchise, remember?!

Name an available coach that we could hire to replace him?

Tony Brown would even be an upgrade. And the few games he’s had the opportunity, 10 times the game coach. Name any assistant out there. Dwayne Casey….Adleman…O’Brien…Hell, Karl might be burnt out after 2 years with Anthony and a half-season with the thugster. All kinds of options out there, Playa. Cowens?

Not half bad, Playa? Scary that it’s hard to tell when he’s trying to win or trying to lose. His game decisions look similar under both circumstances.

I don’t know that anybody is looking for a coach to save the franchise….just one who can manage a game would work for me.

I see no coach either hireable or unhireable who wouldn’t be an upgrade as both a game and defensive coach.

Fire Doc now. There will be no shortages of applicants to choose from to replace Doc. Hire a coach with a system and a plan. Not a tinkler and reactor like Doc. Send Doc back to the broadcasting booth.

I think Doc will have to earn the extension. The one positive he has going for him is the lack of a player mutiny. Other than that, he stinks. Marginal player development and horrid in-game coaching should have greased the wheels for his exit after last year but I think mgmt will give him a shot to earn a new contract next year with some healthy bodies and a nice high draft pick/quality veteran.

hagrid makes his case to fire doc, but what about danny?

the GM is responsible for a poorly-constructed roster…where is the established PG?

you can put doc on the hot seat if you want, but make sure its a couch for two.

So we give Doc an extension based on another year of bad coaching. Our owner a skin flint who won’t can him. Even if we did not have injuries we were a team that might have made the playoffs. Only to be ousted in the first round. Doc has never won a playoff series! He won coach of the year with a 41-41 record! His team playesd well after the break 27-10.
 His in game decisions are not understandable. Who did he develop? Injuries forced Doc’s hand to play people who would have road the pine. Talent ev aluation skills non existent. Plays favorites over what is best for the team. When a player is put on limited minutes will play him more thereby threating their career. GOOD coach!! NOT IN MY BOOK!! HE needs to be canned. On another team he would already be fired. Injuries are part ofhe game. A good coach would have won more without PP. We were in some only to lose.
 Old saying coaches coach players play. In order for a player to play he needs good coaching something we haven’t seen in a while.

First, nice job Hagrid.

Second, I’m fine with canning both Oh Danny Boy and Cry Me a Rivers. In fact, I wouldn’t mind seeing Wyckie Wacky sell the team.

clarification: i’m not advocating doc/danny be fired…

simply stated, this mess isnt all docs fault. DA should receive eqaul amount of criticism/responsibility for the poor product on the floor.

and as far as solutions/improvement goes….that burden falls about 80-20 (GM-coach).

you cant win without seasoned talent!

If they keep Rivers it means they are happy to keep losing. Anyone who thinks this team can turn the corner under Rivers is delusional.

I’d like to see Rick Carlisle as the next Celtics coach…hope he becomes available.

As far as Doc is concerned, I believe that he can deal with all the challenges previously mentioned and still be considered to have done a sub-standard job. At some point, you have to look at the man on the bench and wonder when, if ever, he’ll improve as a coach. I approved of his hiring and was generally optimistic if overwhelmed, settling with the belief that there wasn’t anyone better out there who’d come.
Regardless, he’s not the answer. He was a caretaker almost from the moment he stepped into the job; too bad he couldn’t take better care. That there’s no mutiny on this team certainly is to his credit, and I’ll give a wee bit more with the development of the youth. Beyond that, he’s a failure. You can do a commendable job under the circumstances and still be a failure. Doc’s a failure.
As for Danny, he’s certainly next line, but as much as I’ve soured on Danny, he deserves one more year. Here’s what he needs to do this offseason, and it will not be easy:

• Hire a real coach
• Make a real signing of or trade for a real veteran presence. Not necessarily an all-star, but a real veteran presence
• Grab the lottery pick that will help take us to the next level. If we wind up with No. 3, which could certainly happen, then he’s got to pull off a trade that’s NOT one of his usual one-step-forward/one-step-back deals.
  All of this must mean we make the playoffs. I’d almost say we have get past the first round, too, but I’m being kind.
  Anything less than this and Danny should go.

I stil think Iavaroni is the way to go. Those who feel like he is only interested in a situation where he would have more personnel control need to expain why his links to the Toronto job are so strong given that their GM – Colangelo jr.- is not going anywhere. I also think it significant that Iavaroni’s brief with the Sun’s is as the Defensive coach leaving aside their relative defensive strengths, I like that as the central focus of the next coach. I also ike the idea of bringing over some insight into the more free flowing Phoenix offense. It is for this reason that I dont particuarly like the idea of Carlisle who seems fairly or not – associated with the 1990s style slow-down set offenses. Though in this regard, i.e. flowing offense, Adelman/ Carill might not be bad options. In any event, as far as Iavaroni, I would think that Danny would still have some juice over in Phoenix but I am willing to be educated on this as I have no inside info…

All of those posts and all we got was one shotgun approach of anyone is better, which even though a few names were mentioned that isn’t better than naming no one. Iavaroni and Rick Carlisle are the only real suggestions. What has Rick Carlisle done? Other than being a former Celtic. His teams have gotten worse since he got them. They’ve done absolutely nothing with at least as much talent if not a fair amount more. What has Iavaroni done? Yeah he has some tutelage in the Suns system, but the reason the Suns look so good is Nash, Marion, and Stoudemire. Put Doc coaching those three and turn them loose and he’d be the one you were wishing you had. Suns defense? Come on. They don’t play any defense. They have been known this whole time as a team that would let you back in any game. Even we can put up the numbers on them. They are offense only and with out their players their system is a bust. It is almost entirely in the hands of Danny. You can’t teach talent. Either we have the players we can do something with or we don’t. We have to draft them because no major free agent is coming here. When you can live in Phoenix or LA or Miami or even Dallas why would you winter in the frozen tundra! Danny will succeed because he is a great drafter. It still goes back to the idea of us having a healthy team this year we are 6-8 spot in the east and improving. I don’t agree with giving Doc a 4 year extension, but give him a one year and see what he does next year. Then we can go from there. I still haven’t seen a realistic improvement though. Give us something other than Fire Doc!

Well, Grousbeck and his preppies can do what they want, but they are never selling me another ticket while Rivers is here. Fool me once, shame on you. Foll me twice, shame on me.

If Rick Carlisle becomes available, hell ya! I am watching this championship game Oden is a beast! Will be an all star by his 3rd year however, we are not getting the 1st pick so oh well and Pierce said he didn’t want to play with any more kids. However, he may love what I am watching tonight it is of course against inferior talent but whatchya going to do?

I have no interest in Rick Carlisle. His teams play like molasses. Is he better than Rivers? Sure. But there are much better coaching choices out there.

I’d hire Pat Summitt before I hired Carlisle. Now that would be a first.

Brick shut up man! This Pat Summitt crap! Glad youre only a fan who knows where this club would be if you any say in anything. Dam u dumb!

Pat Summitt has 6 national championships and is a HOF coach. How many national championships do you have, richardlight86?

Now you are asking me dumb questions? Guess I am right about you! I have a few friends that have been blogging far before I knew this site existed and I guess i owe you an apology. Most of us are prob mid 20’s mid 30’s perhaps but from what I understand they all think you are older. So I apologize for calling a senior citizen dumb that was uncalled for.

Womens basketball is a little different don’t you “think”. Or are you actually engaging in that process?

blah blah blah get rid of doc, blah blah blah the sooner the better, blah blah blahlet danny cast his fate to the wind.

richardlight86 said:
  
“Womens basketball is a little different don’t you "think”. Or are you actually engaging in that process?"

Of course its different. The international game is different too, but that hasn’t prevented players like Ginobili, Garbajosa and Anthony Parker, or coaches like Mike D’Antoni, from being successful in the NBA.

And the differences in the women’s game hasn’t prevented people here from floating the names of WNBA coaches like Bill Lambier as viable NBA coaching candidates. I’d certainly take Pat Summitt over Bill Lambier.

The real issue is whether or not Cedric Maxwell would scream “back to the kitchen” every time she called a time out.

Thats kinda funny! Bill Simmons although not my favorite columnist brought about a good point. Although not denying Oden’s talent he did question the references to Russell and other Nba greats. Then he did something that I never thought anybody would do ever, “pay attention Brick because this goes for you too”, he agreed with me on a player.

He compared Roy Hibbert of G-Town to Rick Schmitz(Spelling). I was astounded. Hibbert is not nearly as gifted athletically as Oden but does he need to be? A legit 7’2" work horse who can rebound and block shots and as of now against superior talent then Perk faced can score!

So, c’mon Brick I will awaiting your negativity here, we trade a pick or swap with them and collect and additional pick then draft Hibbert, and Law of A&M. We then have Law, Green, Pierce(If he wants to stay),Jefferson and Hibbert. I am wearing a red shirt with a little white in the middle kinda resembles the Target logo a bit. jking but I will let you all do the bidding on this idea and I expect a full onslaught of comments from Brick. Oops! Almost forgot, a less serious note of course we give Pat Summit a 6 year 18 million dollar contract to come and take Doc’s place.(Thats for you Brick). What do you think?

SteveZ from Edgemont said:
  
“The way the young players and Pierce have responded to the Rivers gives him high marks for the most important coaching attribute for a team like the Celtics. Continuity for the young guys is particularly valuable. A new coach is no guarantee of anything and carries risks of wasting another season adjusting and brings the chance chemistry is unsettled or simply bad. I don’t see a lot of specifics on a realistic, ideal replacement for Doc. He should be extended for a year”
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I think this statement says it well and says it all. But just to add a few thoughts. From what I’ve read I believe Doc’s statements about an extension are related to moving his family here. I’ve read nothing to say that Doc will leave if he’s not given the extension. As to the bad coaching moves, I really don’t see them. There are some things he does that I don’t like, but they are related, to me, to player evaluation, chemistry experimentation, etc. with inconsistent players. Because of injury he is still in this process. Green’s out of bounds pass to Al in the post for a score against the Cav’s was a Doc coaching move. It seemed to work quite well. Let this team develop and then judge Doc. This team is just starting to come together. A new coach will set it back because it will be starting all over again. To me it doesn’t matter if Doc is extended or not this year. It will just make it tough on him from a family point of view if he’s not and then he just needs to decide if he wants to stay on. I think Danny looks at different things than we do to evaluate a player or coach and my bet is that he wants Doc to be here.

As far as I’m concerned the most negative (not to mention ridiculous) thing anyone can possibly say is, “We should extend Rivers because we won’t find anyone better.” A blind pig wandering in a field somewhere in Indiana would pee on at least two guys better than Rivers in the course of a week.

The best think for Rivers’ family would be to fire him. Then he’d make 5 million dollars next year for doing nothing, and he could devote all of his time to his wife and kids. After that, he could work for TNT, which has to be less time-consuming than coaching in the NBA.

I gotta agree with True Green! But Brick’s comment about a pig peeing well, thats kinda funny. Doc is returning according to my friend who used to assist a columnist @ the globe. The reasons for now are the same as has been suggested from time to time, continuity. Unless, Bird fires Carlisle or receives word from the other side of life(Red’s soul)Doc is staying put. The contract from what I understand will be extended but on the premise of incentives for 10-20-30 more wins etc..

Word around the club house from a certain individual in the organization who happens to live in my home town backs up what Jackie O said though! If they get 1 0r 2 pick they draft if not they shop. So we shall see.

If Rivers is back it will have nothing to do with continuity. It means the owners are too cheap to pay him for not coaching.

What the return of Rives also means is that Pierce will be demanding a trade by next Christmas (at the latest) after the team gets off to another poor start.

I meant Jack M…oops,,like saying I see dead people

 I totally disagree with Truegreen.
1) the highpost offense we currenty run is ineffectual. It takes a couple of options out of the offense. Perk cannot drive so all he can do is put it in the post or swing. A guard can drive, take a, or dish plus you have the increased ability better ball handling.
2) Our defense has improved but that is a result of Rondo playing more. He was a very good defender before coming to Doc.
3) Doc say’s you have to earn minutes. Well in the preseason a couple a players did and they were still riding pine only to get time because of injuries.
4) We will be better next year because of injuries. Those players who would have not played under Doc otherwise got better because of PT.
5) A better coach with an understanding of X & O’s is what you need especially in the playoffs. Doc never has won a playoff series he was always outcoached. Is that who you want coaching these guys next year or would you like to maybe win a series.
 What Doc deserves is to be fired. Nothing else!!!

Doc Rivers is a below average NBA coach with a middling regular season record and an abysmal playoff record. The only time his team has been successful in Boston was a 27 game window with Toine, when the team went 18-9, and Doc managed to get outcoached in the playoffs (again) by former Celtic Carlisle.

I would like the Cs to let Doc go this summer and install Ainge as head coach. He’s got a great record as a coach, and would have “The Buck Stops Here” authority over the team like other HC/GMs like Riley and Pop. (An added bonus that might not be all that necessary, because this Celtics bunch are mostly high character, team oriented guys).

Ainge could get the team running and playing Celtics basketball again. If the Cs luck into Oden, I see this happening. DA can coach a couple of years, with an assistant coach (TBD) in Danny’s old role in Phoenix as Coach-in-Waiting.

Brick – At least if you aren’t gooing to give us some thoughtful ideas to improve the team you can entertain us with silly comments. I’m not sure what is sillier though, the pig, or the Pat Summit for coach idea. The difference in her and Bill Laimbeer is that he has palyed the NBA game… I hope you don’t seriously not see the difference. The women’s game is not the same at all. No translation.

Wbones1 – The reason that Perk comes to the top is so that he brings his man out so Big Al can recieve the pass and is double teamed with a guard, not the center. Know the game buddy. (Also innefectual is not a word)

As far as Rick Carlisle… Look at his record. Each year with the Pacers he has lost more games than the year before. He inherits a good team and runs them into the ground. Isn’t this what everyone is saying about Doc?! How is he better?! One of the biggest things that everyone needs to focus on is what the players think of him. They all have his back for a reason. Players turn on coaches in a second if they are poor coaches or have a bad relationship with the players. (Think Larry Brown and the Knicks) Great coach, bad situation and he was run out of town. Still no one has given a better suggestion for a coach than Doc.

43 coaches I would prefer to Doc (off the top of my head) I’m sure there are others.

1. Mark Iavaroni
2. Rick Adelman
3. Stan Van Gundy
4. Terry Porter
5-28 (any of the other currently employed NBA head coaches except Thomas, Musselman, Woodson, Bickerstaff and Mitchell)
29. Paul Silas
30. Paul Westphal
31. Larry Brown
32. Del Harris
33. P.J. Carlesimo
34. Tom Thibodeau
35. Kurt Rambis
36. Jim Cleamons
37. Sasha Dordjevic
38. Ettore Messina
39. Pannagiotis Giannakis
40. Maljkovic Bozidar
41. John Beilein
42. Billy Donovan
43. Lorenzo Romar

I haven’t even bothered to list Coach K, Roy Williams or other college coaches who would probably never take an NBA job.

Ejplaya, gotta agree with you to a certain extent about coaches and Brick sorry man your coaching choices go from ok to worse then DOC. Why? Very few college coached with the exception of Brown have made the transition successfully ie. Petino, Calipari I gotta learn how to spell.

Donovan wouldn’t last 20 games with the egos at work. Esp, Pierce, remember he hated Doc at the beginning bec Doc benched him. Whether he likes Doc or not he respects him. Doc was also able to some what control R. Davis which Silus had no luck doing in Cleveland. Ricky was traded bec Blount needed to packaged with someone and the Wolves wanted another scoring threat. So give Doc some credit.

Better coach suggestion? Rick Adelman.

Rivers couldn’t even control Gordan Giricek (who came out publicly and said Rivers was the worst coach he’d ever played for) or Horace Grant (with whom Rivers got into a fight on a plane) or Gary Payton (who was not resigned because he refused to run the plays that Rivers wanted).

I give Doc Rivers credit for being a nice guy. Respected by the players as a good coach? I don’t think so.

There is no rule against a college coach succeeding in the NBA. Dick Motta, Bill Fitch. Joe Mullaney, Chuck Daly, Jack Ramsay and Cotton Fitzsimmons went to the NBA from college.

 EJPLAYA,
 I know about the concept it is part of the Princeton Offense. I should have said uneffective. Unfortunately we are not doing any back cuts.
 socially inneffectual, under the dillusion that they are intelligent while biligerently arguing the finer points of Walkers Vs. Tayto Cheese&Onion on IRC. Perri clearly pwn
 google the word

Brick our of the three players you just named to are career aholes. My next comment is so what? Give me better more legitimate examples. Coaches and players don’t always get along. You know what here is a question what are your feelings regarding George Karl?

There are some rear cases but when there beloved student athletes become arrogant millionaires it gets tough. A lot of the coached you named made the transition very early on before these big contracts existed. It has become less successful. I will just put this out there, I don’t think you can compare the NBA today to the NBA 10 years ago.

Everyone has to deal with the big contracts and the arrogant players, whether the coach came from college or not. It’s more difficult for everyone today.

Please understand that I’m not advocating hiring a college coach, although I can think of about 30 of them who would be better than Rivers.

If you can’t hire a blue chip NBA coach (e.g Phil Jackson, Mike D’Antoni, Greg Popovich) the next best thing is to hire a lead assistant coach who has worked for, and learned from, one of those blue chip coaches. Hence my choices of guys like Iavaroni, Carlisimo, Rambis and Thibodeau (JVG’s lead assistant).

It seems to me that the next best choice is a successful pro coach from Europe. They deal with the same issues on a smaller scale, plus they tend to emphasize fundamentals and an up tempo style. IMHO the best coaches in Europe right now are Pannagiotis Giannakis (coach of the Greek national team, the current world champions) and Ettore Messina, who succeeded D’Antoni at Benneton Treviso and currently coaches CSKA Moscow (2006 Euroleague champions). Both have coached NBA players and against NBA players. I believe that Messina went undefeated for several years as the coach of the Denver Nuggets summer league team.

Well you can take John Beilein off my coaching prospects list. He’s reportedly going to Michigan. The good ones get taken quickly.

I may be wrong, but the consensus on this Blog seems to be “WE LUV CLIFFORD”!! I’m among this group. Well, if Doc goes, so does Clifford Ray because a new coach will hire his/her own staff.

Those who would even suggest Mark Iavaroni or Bill Laimbeer as our next coach are just not Celtic fans. You need to go back in history, but these two guys are NOT Celtics. If my memory serves me Robert Parish only belted one player during his career. It’s the same guy who tried to take Larry’s head off and Bird paid him his due respects also. As for the other person listed above look back to a long ago pre-season game between the Sixer’s and C’s at the real Garden (it was for charity) and tell me you want this guy here.

If we get rid of Rivers and hire a new coach. The Clifford Ray might stick around bec I guarantee Jefferson and Perkins will plead for him to stay. Perkins I think will be a solid back up. I stress “back up”

The Clifford Ray,,,I am a babbling idiot! Sorry

Clifford Ray and Kevin Eastman are skills coaches. The are like Doo, Norton and Lacerte: staff members with specialized duties. They will be retained if Rivers is fired. The new coach gets to hire his assistants, not the skills coaches and trainers.

The latest rumor is that the Grizzlies will offer Billy Donovan a lucrative, multi-year deal.

All we can do is sit around with our fingers in our noses like Grousbeck and Ainge while all the good coaches are hired by someone else.

wbones1—Some responses:
1. Perk has become a terrific passer from the high post. He won’t drive to the basket. It would be great if he developed a shot from there. But most importantly, when it counts, he’s under the basket. A smaller guard cannot pass into the post from that position.
2. Rondo isn’t the only reason our defense has improved. Al is better and Perk is healthy and even Telfair is fighting over picks.
3. Not sure who you’re referring to and 4. players get better the more they play for any coach. And they don’t get better if they just play and are not taught.
5. I think Doc knows basketball as well as any coach in the league. He has developed a system tuned to the players he has. And his system works when executed properly. We are always going to disagree on Doc and maybe any coach for that matter. But this is a fairly good discussion going on.

richardlight86, when a new coach is hired he is usually allowed to hire his OWN staff regardless of what players say. Rick Pitino came here, hired his own staff and got rid of all our players before seeing what they could do. We even had Ben Wallace who Pitino booted because he couldn’t shoot three’s. That’s usually the way it is and if it isn’t there’s usually a conflict between coach and GM and then a new coach comes in. So much for continuity.

richardlight86, And you’re not a “babbling idiot”. It’s called a typo or some type of moment depending on your situation.

They looked terrible coming out of training camp.

They were 4 – 10 in the month of Nov.

Sebastian Telfair would never have started over Rondo on a Bill Belichick coached team.

A change is needed.

 Does anyone have any faith, Danny can select the right coach?

Brick-Come on now. Go back to the funny comments at least. Did you just neame every coach in the phone book?! That says it all. All the credibility one of those guys out there said you might have had just went out the window. How about this. Let’s say we don’t like Perk for whatever reason. Saying we have to trade him and looking up and listing every other center in the NBA and saying you’d rather have any of them is just a flat out stupid argument. How about you name a coach and give a reason that coach is better than Doc. Not just…Doc sucks. Hire anybody! Also, all those transition coaches that went from college to the NBA are like 90 years old now. You think the game and egos has changed a bit maybe?! Great college coaches do not get questioned by anyone. I’m sitting down here in Duke’s back yard and ask coach K! The second he gets in to the NBA and that superstar that is making 15-20 mil a year gets told what to do he throws a fit and its over. Ask Pitino. TrueGreen is right. Naming Rambis or Laimbeer as a potential replacement should get you banned from this site. I was right. You are a Laker fan in here trying to bring us all down!

EJPLAYA—YEAH. But I have no problem with Rambis. He played hard. It’s the mention of Laimbeer and Iavaroni in the same sentence with Celtic that really gets to me.