Up In Smoke

Pot is no worse than drinking(smoking responsibly similar to drinking responsibly) it just happens to be illegal. Cocaine and that tier of drugs, has no purpose in society.

CsfanNH

I’m with CsFanNH on this. I don’t think it’s fair to compare a player smoking pot to Len Bias. You can’t OD on pot. Nor do I (and this is strictly a personal view, obviously) respect anyone less for smoking up every now and then. You’d be surprised how many people do in this country.

Remember when that recorded phone conversation came out about Bush smoking pot? Man they burried that thing pretty quick, especially compared to Clintons’ “I didn’t inhale” saga.

This won’t change my view of the Celtics legend one bit.

Aw, shucks, that stuff grows wild in Indiana. Besides, I bet they didn’t inhale.

I said it back when this first made the rounds… The majority of the league smokes pot. It’s not an issue… I once was with some friends getting autographs outside Key Arena. Jelani McCoy was driving with Desmond Mason laying in the back. They rolled the window down and tons of smoke came pouring out… I’ve heard about Gary Payton throwing wild parties in the mid 90s here in Seattle where Sam Perkins was up stairs smoking… and it wasn’t cigarettes or weed…

Weed is extremely common

Did anyone ever ask Wyc Grousbeck if he smokes pot?

Who cares? It’s pot. Anyone who says pot is more dangerous than alcohol is out of their mind.

Wow, basketball players smoke weed? Who would have guessed that…

This isn’t like players taking steroids in football/baseball(putting themselves in danger, and changing the playing field for others) Or like Len Bias doing lines of coke, a massively dangerous drug. It’s pot – can’t even pretend it’s a big deal.

God made marijuana, man made liquor

gimme a break….people need to understand the difference between marijuana and cocaine. The fact marijuana is illegal is another insane and hypocritical law imposed by our free country. It gets moral and goodhearted people in trouble. The real drug that needs to be outlawed is called ignorance.

Len Bias’s horrific coke situation, is by no means even close to smoking joints with a musician. i’d like to smoke with larry and kev. tobacco of course.

Boy…I wish you had done some research on canabis before you posted this. If you’re going to call pot a drug, you should be out there campaigning to ban alcohol and tobacco which are 1000 times more dangerous than canabis.
http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/20060523/pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancer

Weed grows on earth. Naturally. It’s a gift from God. Or do you think the Devil himself “planted” it?

i actually respect him more now. smoking mellencamp under the table? sounds good to me.

“I don’t do drugs….just weed.”

-Thurgood Jenkins

I don’t smoke pot nowindays but I sure as hell dont look down at Larry Legend for smoking the herb. If I looked like Larry Bird I’d be high all the time too.

I don’t care about these guys smoking pot. However, I was shocked at how much Larry Bird smoked tobacco products when he was playing. I was an undergrad at BU from 1987-1991, and one of my roommates was on the BU basketball team. Bird was a regular in the training room, getting deep tissue massages from Mike Boyle and his staff at that time. Anyway, my roommate said you could always tell Bird was in the building because a cloud of cigarette or cigar smoke would develop whenever he was waiting around. Now, nobody ever accused Bird of playing like a greyhound on the court, but he did log 40 minutes per game throughout his career, which is shocking to me for a smoker.

I think I’m more shocked that Kevin and Larry actually hung out together.

it may have been illegal but depending on the state it may have been a minor offense vs carrying a gun without a license for it.

And as far as protecting Telfair, he just sucked at basketball this year.
 I actuulay wish wed get rid of doc and keep telfair under a new coach. If we trade West we are going to need a point guard(backup)

Obviously Jeff is not a pot smoker

let’s not forget, homosexuality was at one time illegal and considered highly immoral. This is a right to privacy issue. I dont care what Bird and McHale do on their own time, provided their action is not the direct and proximate cause of an injury to another. I dont see that as being so in this case, unless you consider Mellencamp sliding under the table injurious

Jeff, worst opinion I’ve read on CelticsBlog ever. You are so out of touch when it comes to this issue. DARE groups all drugs together and that is a proven failure. Maybe if people actually educated kids about the truth about drugs/alcohol we wouldn’t have Len Bias type situations.
I’m very disappointed with you :’(

We live/breath/smoke green

New poll just in from CNN (Celtics New Network), current approval ratings:

Larry Bird : up 5% = 105% approval
Kevin McHale: up 5% = 105% approval
Chief (no updates on his marijuana habits): holding steady at 100%
Jeff Clark: down 5% (for equating marijuana with cocaine; down 5% for equating marijuana with drunk driving; down 1% for trying to keep his cite ‘appropriate’ for future investors: down from his usual ‘giving it 110%’ = 99%

I agree, Jeff, this is one of the more ludicrous peices I’ve read on the blog.

I’m curious, do you’all think your religious practices play a role in your opinions on this issue?

Jeff,
pot was legal in this country for the longest time. But it became illegal when white people felt threatened by the rise of black people’s music (Blues & Jazz) in American culture. So, the congress scapegoated and outlawed weed, hoping to put an end to these “threats” to the fabric of our lives at the time. This was in 1937.

Ever since then, Americans were constantly brainwashed into believing that cannabis is a drug. It’s not. It’s a plant. All natural, zero chemical, grown right here on Earth. I’m sorry if my initial reaction rubbed you the wrong way, Jeff. I was just disappointed to read that you were prejudiced on this issue. Cannabis isn’t bad. It treats and pleases people. Naturally. And it’s not known to cause ANY illness, unlike alcohol and tobacco which cause death and destruction. Think about it. The government encourages people to destroy their lives or kill themselves, but it won’t let people have a moment with Mother Earth?

I don’t wanna sound like I’m pushing, but you’re missing out on one of the great natural pleasures in life. :D

That’s naive. Cannabis is not a “natural” plant anymore. They grow it in high-tech glasshouses. Its effects are in no way comparable to weed of the 30s or the weed Bob Dylan smoked when he wrote those fine tunes. I’m German, so maybe we get the special stuff from the Netherlands, but I would think your weed gets enhanced comparably. I don’t like it if hardliner compare weed to serious drugs like coce, but it’s not correct to say responsible smoking effects you just as much as responsible drinking. Weed stepped up, guys.

Dobbs, if you really thing that, you are crazy. People who smoke cigarretes don’t call it “smoking under the table”. That’s like me saying that my buddy ‘drinks me under the table’, but I was talking about Milk. And how is this “well known”? The story and quote just came out.

Jeff, totally respect your opinion.

Mahoney, if you think that back when they were kids they didn’t know a guy who grew his own Indiana Indica, your crazy. In the 80’s, hydroponics weren’t but an idea.

Jeff, the comparison to Len Bias and drugs is completely unfair. Guarantee you that most of the Celtics right now smoke weed. It’s not an issue at all. I’d be more disappointed if I heard someone like Jefferson smoked cigarettes rather than weed.

Weed isn’t illegal because it’s bad. It’s bad because it’s illegal.

Most people have at least tried it at one time in their lives. It’s not a big deal.

CIGARETTES!!!! Guys, Mellencamp is talking about CIGARETTES. That’s always been his vice, his addiction, his battle. Check out his “Behind the Music” episode, or any other documentary/book/article about him….

Why would Mellencamp even bring it up if he was talking about cigarettes???? Who “smokes someone under the table” with cigarettes? Can you smoke so many cigarettes that you fall under a table?

People that think he is talking about cigarettes are simply in denial. That’s all.

Poor Jeff is ignorant. So are lots of people, so what. Just leave him and alone and let him think what he wants.

Many good comments on this subject. It’s good to see that most of the people on this board are properly enlightened and not blinded my much of society when it comes to marijuana v. alcohol v. cigerettes v. other drugs. And yes, I also have never heard of “smoking someone under the table” referring to cigs – it is obviously the ganj that JCM is referring to.

I guess anything is possible, but if so, it’s the first time in history that someone has used the saying “smoked under the table” in reference to cigarettes. He may have mentioned the fact he was talking about ciggart

I “drank him under the table”. Am I was talking about coffee or alcohol? Probably alcohol.

Who gets “outed” for smoking weed 20 years ago? I’m not sure outing is the right term. It’s not like this is some big scandal. They aren’t playing anymore. It happened like 20 years ago. It’s possible Mellencamp didn’t think twice in mentioning the story. It’s not like Bird and McHale are running for president. Even if they were, these days you are still electable.

CelticPrideInLA-

Respect your knowledge about weed man, but don’t say it’s not a drug, cause it is. Just cause it occurs naturally does not change that. And don’t say it won’t hurt you, cause, like anything, it will if you do too much of it.

To clarify, I have no moral interest anyone smoking weed. I’ve smoked it, my friends have smoked it (or still do), I don’t care.

Jeff-

Respect your opinion too, man. Everyone have different experiences with drugs and alcohol which shape their perceptions. People who are convinced that weed can’t hurt you just haven’t seen it in a negative light, maybe you have, I don’t know.

Still love Larry.