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BSG Idea: Make Dad's Head Explode

Bill Simmons has some ideas, including one for the Celtics (hint: you're not going to like it but it is fairly realistic - and exactly why I don't want to deal for him):

Deal No. 5: Boston trades Theo Ratliff (expires in 2008), Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, the No. 5 pick and their rights to Minny's future No. 1 for Kobe.

Comments: A more logical trade (Kobe for Paul Pierce and the No. 5 pick) doesn't work because Kobe would never agree to lead another youth movement. So could a Jefferson-Green-picks package work? I like the thought of Kobe and Pierce joining forces in a crummy conference, and it's hard to imagine the Lakers doing better in terms of potential cap space, premium picks and players with UPPPPPPPPPPPPPside (in my opinion, Jefferson is the best low-post scorer in the league under 24). Still, it's hard to imagine the Los Angeles Lakers trading their franchise player to the Boston Celtics. I just can't see it. It's too weird. Also, I think my dad's head would explode.

 

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We would be left with no bigs…..no thanks. Theo, Gerald Green, #5, #32, Delonte West. Our cap would be in Dallas/Philly/Phoenix territory, and the #1 rule in the NBA…….never trade big for little.

by Sarcasma on May 30, 2007 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Awful trade. Not gonna say more – shouldn’t have to.

Steve

by Steve_M on May 30, 2007 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

No trading Jefferson for a G.

by Wide Load on May 30, 2007 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Aweful trade. Yeah right. A guy who may or may not someday be a solid 20 10 guy for one of the ten best players ever. That is nuts. The lakers would be getting fleeced on that deal.

It doesn’t look like they will trade Kobe but they have to do something. I like the idea of moving Pierce for Bynum and Kwame Brown’s expiring contract. It gives the Celtics a frontline for the next decade and the lakers the chance to win now.

by JohnCK on May 30, 2007 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

AL is untouchable

by Motown on May 30, 2007 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Ya, but Kobe is more untouchable. We would need to get a legit big guy somehow, but how can you pass on Kobe.

by Green Pat on May 30, 2007 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

kobe doesnt know what team basketball is..

i wouldnt do AJ for Kobe straight

actually i dont want kobe in boston period

how about we trade for players with brains!

by 00dc2 on May 30, 2007 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont want to trade Al in a deal for Kobe simply because he is our only talented big and we really dont have much of a chance to win without him. With that said Kobe is the best all around player in the league and I would take him in a second if I thought we could put a championship level team around him.

by Byrdman on May 30, 2007 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s really heartening to hear most of the folks reject this trade out of hand. IMHO, Simmons proposes a lousy deal. Here’s why:

As several people have pointed out, it leaves us with a big hole in the front court. You really want your starting bigs to be Pierce, Perkins, and Ryan Gomes? No thanks.

Trading Al AND the #5 for Kobe is like shorting Google five years ago so you could invest all your dough in Toyota. Toyota’s a solid company, but not exactly a growth stock.

How is Pierce going to feel when a huge chunk of his shots go to Bryant or vice versa? Along those lines, how’d Iverson work out in Denver? Won’t be lifting a banner to the rafters this year?

Finally, Pierce and Kobe mean that about $40 million of a $62.5 million payroll go to two guys. Doesn’t leave you much flexibility to add any pieces to the puzzle. I’d rather start moving Ratliff and Wally off the payroll and start investing those dollars in locking up Al and rounding out the roster with solid NBA vets.

Just my $.02.

by p_dawg on May 30, 2007 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Trade sucks-enuff said. Also I can’t stand Kobe.

by marcg on May 30, 2007 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Al is untouchable until names like Kobe, LeBron, wade, KG come into discussion. When these guys are mentioned I’m sure Jefferson becomes touchable very quickly.

by Cooldude5t5 on May 30, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

i couldn’t care less what would or would not make the sports guy’s dad’s head explode.

even ainge isn’t dumb enough to consider this.

by game sink on May 31, 2007 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

If it was straight up Al for Kobe, I’m not sure I’d still do it, but I’d certainly feel better about it. As it is, though, the trade is two players plus two pretty high picks plus an expiring for a me-first whiner that passes even less than PP. Not good enough, even if he pretty much is an unstoppable scorer at times.

And I still shouldn’t have had to explain this.

Kobe all-time top ten? Not in this lifetime … lessee, better or as good as him, off the top of my head: Bird, Magic, Oscar, Jordan, Shaq, Duncan (maybe), Dr. J, Kareem, Wilt, Barkley, Olajuwon, Moses, Russell, Pippen (hard to say, being overshadowed by Jordan, but a case could be made), Drexler (maybe.)

by Steve_M on May 31, 2007 2:26 AM EDT reply actions  

theres NO WAY the Celtics should be looking at any trade thats gonna involve giving up Al Jefferson at this point PERIOD unless you are getting back Duncan or Lebron…..if you think that can happen, get to your nearest rehab center….

by NUMBA 17 on May 31, 2007 7:30 AM EDT reply actions  

horrible, horrible trade idea; lucky for us Bill Simmons isn’t the GM and Kobe isn’t going anywhere

by CelticsWhat35 on May 31, 2007 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ll pass on this trade. I don’t think Kobe and Paul are a good fit for each other. I’m not interested in giving up one of the few championship pieces on this team (Al) and our best commodity (#5 pick), for Kobe. This trade also kills our cap, puts us into luxury tax land, and likely leads to chemistry problems.

by Fezyk on May 31, 2007 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Kobe bites as a team player and will rape our roster of
any future. but besides that he needs a big to win anything
or even a round in the playoffs.
we would give up probably the most promising big to come
into this league in a while in big Al and possibly two more
bigs in the 5th pick and possibly a 2nd 5th pick with minnys
pick and a little lottery luck
oh and possibly a 4th big which we could get for Theos
millions.
then were stuck with to allstars playing the same role and position
let me stop here. this trade is so lopsided in favor
of the fakers its not worth finishing my thought.plus i agree
with most of what others said on the trade

by perk on May 31, 2007 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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