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Everybody Loves Kevin

KG Kevin Garnett has never stated publicly that he wants out of Minnesota. Kevin McHale has stated publicly that he intends to once again build around Garnett and has no intentions of trading him. However, for some reason, nobody (including me) believes any of it.

Everything is on hold till the draft order is set. After that, expect the bidding war to begin in earnest. Already the local media outlets are each putting in their bids. Some examples:

  • Sam Smith: And would Minnesota now swap Garnett for Nowitzki? That would give Dallas the tough guy they feel they need after shriveling up for the Warriors, and it would give the Timberwolves a star and a good guy.
  • Florida Today: An offer of Milicic, Hedo Turkoglu and a first-round draft pick might be enough to lure Garnett or Allen. Pair one of those stars with Howard, and the Magic would instantly become contenders in the Eastern Conference.
  • NY Daily News: The Knicks then could offer a scoring big man (Channing Frye, $2.49 million), a clutch-shooting guard (Jamal Crawford, $7.92 million), a 6-11 forward who can defend three positions (Jared Jeffries, $5.6 million) and a veteran whose contract expires after the 2008-09 season (Malik Rose, $7.1 million). The salaries would just about match up, give or take a throw-in going back to the Knicks.

    Even if Minnesota demanded David Lee as part of the deal for Garnett, it apparently wouldn't be a deal-breaker for Thomas -- nor should it be.
  • PE.com: There should be plenty of speculation about the Lakers trading for All-Star Kevin Garnett over the summer. But Jim Buss, Jerry's son and the team's vice president of player personnel, has refused to part with Bynum in other discussions, and Bynum would likely figure prominently in any deal.

The Laker love is actually to the point where there is a new blog called GetGarnett.com (hat tip to YAYSports, you know, the 2nd best NBA blog in all the land, for catching this). I just wish I had thought of this blog idea first. I wonder what I Heart KG thinks of all this love.

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Milicic, Hedo and a #1 for one of the greatest players ever? Wow…..

by celtfan 3.0 on May 8, 2007 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Lakers’ 2007-2008 starting lineup:

C Chris Mihm (resigned)
PF Kevin Garnett
SF Desmond Mason (FA)
SG Kobe Bryant
PG Marko Jaric

Bench: Mikki Moore (FA), Vlad Rad, Maurice Evans, Sasha Vujacic, Trajan Langdon (FA), 2nd round pick.

by Brickowski on May 8, 2007 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

The Lakers make the most sense to me. Lakers should take the gamble on 3-5 years of championship contention with 2 top ten players. To me, it also makes sense for Minnesota as they would be building with Bynum, Foye, a couple of good draft picks and, after dumping Blount and Davis, some cap space. What is a bit scary is whether our Minny first rounder will ever come to be. Also scary is the Lakers in contention again… Ughh!!

by Neurotic Guy on May 8, 2007 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

The Lakers do make a ton of sense. Would they really hold the deal up over Bynum? I know he’s very promising, but Kobe is in his prime now. And Garnett seems like a great compliment— someone who doesn’t need the ball too much to contribute a lot.

by PJ Martinez on May 8, 2007 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

The orlando trade is garbage…that writer is an idiot.

Half the teams in the league could offer a better package.

by yall hate on May 8, 2007 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Bynum was the holdup on the Kidd deal, but Kidd is getting up in years. KG still has some leg under him. I think Bynum would be available and he will tip the scales to LA. It will get done, sadly.

by Jeff Clark on May 8, 2007 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Lakers’ 2007-2008 starting lineup:

C Kendrick Perkins
PF Kevin Garnett
SF Paul Pierce
SG Kobe Bryant
PG Marko Jaric

===

Celtics’ 2007-2008 starting lineup:

C Andrew Bynum
PF Al Jefferson
SF Ryan Gomes
SG Kevin Durant
PG Rajon Rondo

…that’d be fun.

PG Marko Jaric :o

by mcpu40 on May 8, 2007 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, Jared Jefferies is “a 6-11 forward who can defend three positions” — now we know the pitch his agent used to get Thomas to give him that idiotic contract. I can’t wait to hear them describe Jerome James.

(“Steady presence”? “Space eater”? “Battle tested bench ballast”?)

by No Look Shot on May 8, 2007 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

next time someone cries about Celtics fans overvaluing our talent…

by Jeff Clark on May 8, 2007 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I fail to see how swaping Dirk for KG can improve the Mavs. I might be in the minority here but when was the last time KG averaged more than 25ppg..and since when KG is a go-to-guy. He is a super player and a double-double machine, but he is not a low-post player, and doesn’t get to the line as often as people think…in fact, I could make an the case that Dirk gets to the foul-line just as much if not more. I think swaping those two is like robing Peter to pay Paul.

by cocofan on May 8, 2007 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

We should be able to match any of these offers easily. Green, Gomes, Perk and Theo’s contract should be on the table if the TWolves are looking to unload KG for 50 cents a dollar.

by kozlodoev on May 8, 2007 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Everyone besides Pierce, Jefferson and a top 2 pick should be on the table. But I still bet the Lakers get him.

by smiggity on May 8, 2007 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The Magic and Knicks deals are laughable… neither writer should even be allowed in an internet forum let alone writing for a major newspaper. So, you’d really include David Lee too?? Really?? Wow, I’m sure the T-Wolves will be very grateful… all the other players in that deal are negatives, so Lee just balances them out to get back to ZERO VALUE!

But the Lakers makes sense… Odom and Bynum for Garnett – they’ll do it if they’re not stupid…

BTW, talked to a Lakers fan the other day and told him about the Peter May offer (Pierce for Bynum, Odom, Walton) and much to my shock, he immediately said he’d take it. Wow, and he knows basketball and lives and breathes Lakers… Hmm… Bynum, Jefferson, Durant front court… (drooling)

by Dino, Alla and Stojko on May 8, 2007 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I still seriously dubt that Kevin would do any deal with the Lakers. He negated one deal several years ago for that very reason. What strikes me as interesting though is Kobe Bryant’s demand to the Lakers front office. Who in the world does he thimk he is? Can anyone here imagine Pierce speaking this way and our fans’ reaction? Great as he is on the court, he always succeeds to alienate me. Another disgusting, drunk with power piggy slopping on anyone he feels wherever he goes. Sorry, I can’t stand him, Antoine Walker, ML Carr, and Thanksdad in the same breath.

by gustusias on May 8, 2007 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

gustusias said:

“What strikes me as interesting though is Kobe Bryant’s demand to the Lakers front office. Who in the world does he thimk he is? Can anyone here imagine Pierce speaking this way and our fans’ reaction?”

Pierce has been clamoring for “veteran help” almost as loudly as Kobe. The difference is that Pierce didn’t run Shaq out of town. Did Kobe seriously think he was going to win another title with the Diesel gone? If so, he’s delusional.

Pierce’s agent has made it quite clear that if he doesn’t like what happens in the offseason he may demand a trade.

by Brickowski on May 8, 2007 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Jared Jeffries- “a player that can cover 3 positions” Isn’t that the same bs they tried to say when isiah made another horrible move by getting jeffries last summer? Now all of a sudden he is valuable after a crap year of proving nothing? This sounds like zeke wrote the article himself, but hey “desperate times call for desperate measures.” I don’t even care if NY gets KG, all they will do is fail and drive him out of town. If LA gets him then so be it because now we just have a better rivalry at the big man AL vs KG- let the debate begin!

by biggs on May 8, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

As much as I dislike Kobe, I think it is ok to pressure the front office to get off their butts and make the team better. I mean Kobe is a once in a lifetime player and the best one-on-one guy in the NBA. He has a few years left at the top and the Lakers management is wasting his prime, just like the Celtics management is wasting Pierce’s. Are they seriously going to wait for 19 yr old Bynum to become Shaq when they could have had Kidd for him at the trade deadline? It’s just plain foolish, especially when the West is so stacked. They need to be in a win now mode.

by orrzor on May 9, 2007 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

once we have either Oden or Durant, I don’t care if ever the Lakers get KG or not..I do not think the lakers will win any title even with KG but they certainly will be back in contention again much quicker than our C’s.

Bring on the Rivalry back!!!!…This is what the league needs Boston vs. LA in the finals 2009 and beyond…

by bopna on May 9, 2007 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Minnesota will trade Garnett out of the conference. Boston would have to include either their 2007 pick or Al to get it done, not both, just one or the other. Gomes, West, Theo, etc. won’t get it done. If somehow it does, Minnesota is way undervalueing him and dealing from a massive lack of leverage.

by celty86 on May 9, 2007 5:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Garnett would be best on a vet team that is 1 frontcourt player away.

Trading PP & Al for Garnett brings them back to square 1 in my estimation. 1 quality star & some pieces. You can’t count on the pick to be a 20/10 guy out of the box.

Miami, Nets & LA seem to make the most sense.

by LuckyNumber07 on May 9, 2007 5:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Any Boston trade for Garnett would turn Minny into Celtics West, and that ship has already sailed. The collection of Blount, RickyD, and some more Celtics has already lost. People say he needs to go to a winner, but great players make teams winners. He did little more than Pierce did with Ricky, Blount, and Mike James. I’m not discounting his value, but he might need to go to a team with an Alpha dog, like Lakers. If Wolves trade Garnett, they should start fresh with draft choices, and not make the fans endure a season of Blount/Davis leading the team. My beat guess of a trade would be with Chicago for Tyrus Thomas, Nociano, and Gordon, plus fillers. Detroit is really humbling the backcourt of Bulls, and they need to get bigger. Deng’s going no where.

by VT Bill on May 9, 2007 6:34 AM EDT reply actions  

we suckered kevin once; he won’t bite again, tho he suckered us with an injured wally. i agree with VTBill, kg needs an alpha dog.

by nazzbo on May 9, 2007 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

The Orlando and New York offers are hilarious. I geuss in those two cities the trade yahoos aren’t religated to the blog sites, but actually get paying jobs.

by half manbot on May 9, 2007 7:55 AM EDT reply actions  

it’s funny to read what other teams think the value of their players is. It makes me thinks that celtic fans are pretty normal in that we overvalue our players the same way other teams do. the florida one is priceless. Did somebody actually get paid for proposing that? Quick, where do I sign up for that job?

by Red2 on May 9, 2007 8:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I know this is heresy, but I think Garnett is overrated.

by GreenBalls on May 9, 2007 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

greenlove said:
  I know this is heresy, but I think Garnett is overrated.

I agree. I think he has great skills, but I think he lacks the toughness needed to have an impact.

by TrueGreen on May 9, 2007 9:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Jeff (et al), I was just writing about this from a Lakers perspective. Not just KG, but any major trade the team may make. You’re right that the key for the Lakers getting a deal done is Bynum, but this question is really one of an internal team struggle. Longtime owner Jerry Buss is slowly turning over the basketball side of the organization to his son Jim, and it was Jim that pushed for and made the Bynum pick. It’s really about the younger Buss’ ego and trying to establish himself as a force that has kept Bynum trade offers at bay so far, but the pressure to do something is mounting and Bynum is the trade piece everyone wants. If Laker management decides he can be moved, something will get done (KG, JO, somebody big). With a a young 7-footer with potential on the block you can make a big trade. If they decide Bynum must stay, well, Luke Walton needs to develop Shawn Marion-like skills fast.

By the way, believe it or not, this Laker blogger will be pulling for you guys on lottery night.

by Kurt on May 9, 2007 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Milicic, Turkoglu 1st round pick = Kevin Garnett?
Man, I’ve been saying it for years and I’ll say it again: We must Succeed from Florida.

by whales on May 10, 2007 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with you guys on these writers and their trade idea’s, totally ridiculous. That Sam Smith dude is another tardo in that fashion. How do these writers get jobs when they know so little about player values?

Anyhow, I’d have to say that the Bulls would be the best fit. They need a go-to guy, veteran leader type. As good as they looked against the senile Heat, is as bad as they are looking versus the Pistons. They’ll make a play for one of the KG, JO, PG PP types.

by Real World on May 10, 2007 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

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