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Doc Rivers apparently thinks that anyone holding him responsible for doing his job is an idiot.  Well count me as an idiot then.

Steve Bulpett (who was the star of the show last night) has the story:

We figured Rivers would jump at the chance to embrace the no-excuses mantra. We were wrong. 

"No. I don’t think you can just say we’re ready," he said. "I’m realistic. If our guys are ready to win, we’ll win. If they’re not and they need another year, then we need another year. There’s no years on it. That’s such idiotic stuff. You just don’t know when it’s going to come together, or if it’s going to come together."

If a player has the requisite talent and aptitude to learn, then exactly whose fault is it if he doesn’t perform to his capabilities?

"I don’t know," said Rivers. "I don’t think it’s necessarily on the coach. I think it’s on both of us, but I don’t think you can say, ‘Now this year I’ve got to get them to do this.’ That’s just idiotic thinking."

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Of course the obvious question would have been, “Then when is it the coach’s fault?” This is the wrong time in Doc’s career to be hedging his bets.

by ReggieR on Jun 11, 2007 6:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I guess Doc is setting himself up for another lottery year and one-year extension.

by obnoxiousmime on Jun 11, 2007 6:38 AM EDT reply actions  

He’s just smart enough to know this remains, at best, a .500 club.
Otherwise, he’s enough of an idiot to not be able to get more out of this club, draft pick or not.
Here we go…

by Big_Easy on Jun 11, 2007 6:43 AM EDT reply actions  

The idiotic thinking was in extending a coach you already has under contract. Easiest way to succeed is to lower the bar

by VT Bill on Jun 11, 2007 6:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Please Doc dont speak, its depressing us all to hear your thoughts
on anything basketball related. remember col. Klink from Hogans
Heroes,thats how doc coaches.

by perk on Jun 11, 2007 6:52 AM EDT reply actions  

This “story” shows why Bulpert and The Herald are minor league in the newspaper world. The Globe has a reporter covering the NBA Finals while Bulpert wastes time and space trying to nail Doc down on predictions for next season.

by lemonadesky on Jun 11, 2007 6:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Right about it sounds like a perfect time to have this coach bite the bullet and walk.

by cos on Jun 11, 2007 7:00 AM EDT reply actions  

another comment.

2 weeks from signing an extension and hes already playing the “its not on me” card???

Fire the bum already. Do us all the favor.

by cos on Jun 11, 2007 7:02 AM EDT reply actions  

“I think itâ€â"¢s on both of us”—Partial quote from Doc from Bulpett article.
Now read the article in the Globe about the Spurs/Cavs game last night. Now read Peter May’s 6/10 Globe article about the Spurs. Now tell me what’s different other than that the Spurs are a much better team than the C’s.

by TrueGreen on Jun 11, 2007 7:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Can someone remind me why this clown was re-signed? >:(

by Bankshot on Jun 11, 2007 7:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I teach second grade and Doc sounds like one of my kids. If they don’t have their homework, get in trouble for talking, or get caught pushing and shoving on the playground, they always blame someone else. They never think it is their fault.

The difference is that I call them on it. I make them understand that they are responsible for their own actions and there will be consequences if the actions continue to happen. Only if Danny Ainge taught the 2nd grade. ;)

by Chief # 1 on Jun 11, 2007 7:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Truth be told, it isn’t what Doc said that was so wrong, it’s more a question of who said it. At this juncture, the “vision” has faded and the prophet (and his coaching desciples) are in full retreat and NOTHING that they say will be believed short of on-the-court PRODUCTION!

by moskqq on Jun 11, 2007 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Chief, “itâ€â"¢s on both of us”—-two parties are involved, Doc and the players. I would add DA to the list. I really don’t see what the problem is here other than that there’s not much else to talk about so let’s pick on Doc today. We should probably schedule Danny for tommorrow and Wyc for Wed. and “lady luck” or lack thereof on Thurs.

by TrueGreen on Jun 11, 2007 7:40 AM EDT reply actions  

moskqq, I don’t know about the retreat part, but, as you say, let’s see what happens on the court. Also, we shouldn’t forget that this is a team effort that includes more than Doc and the players.

by TrueGreen on Jun 11, 2007 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

So I guess Rivers’ new mantra is “No more excuses, but it isn’t my fault.”

1. Replace Rivers
2. Trade Pierce
3. Draft Conley

by Brickowski on Jun 11, 2007 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

This is why no one in sports can ever tell the truth, it happens so rarely that when someone does it makes an honest statement look like an admission of guilt. It’s a question that never had to be asked in the first place, everyone knows the answer already, the whole thing is a waste of time. If you’re going to properly quote Doc you should do the same to person asking the question, regardless of who’s wrong.

by davemonsterband on Jun 11, 2007 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

all anger seeks an object and doc is it. just keep quiet, pull a bellichek if you must talk, and say little. save it for the boys in green who need someone to get them in gear.

by nazzbo on Jun 11, 2007 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Wait a minute. I’m confused. According to the team, the only reason this squad didn’t make the playoffs was an extreme rash of injuries. Well, if that’s the case, they must have ‘been ready’ last season. So, how can the Rivers possibly be implying that they might not be ready now?

by Scintan on Jun 11, 2007 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Not everyone on Causeway Street are on the same page. Doc didn’t get the memo on how this is a playoff team albeit ravaged by injuries. Bulpett believes this team should make the playoffs too. Whether that makes him “minor league”, I don’t know. You mean Murphy isn’t covering the finals for them??

by celty86 on Jun 11, 2007 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Even if the player has the requisite talent and capacity to learn Doc’s “defensive system”, they will still fail. Because it’s the system….a junk system that puts everybody out of position when the shot goes up. The NBA’s all-defensive first team wouldn’t be successful defensively using the blitzing defense full-time. Even if the player has the requisite talent and capacity to learn Doc’s rotations and adhere to Doc’s game decisions, they will still fail. When the game-decision defies logic….Defies percentages…and continually fails, it’s not on the players. It’s because the coach can’t coach.

At what point do Danny and Wyc see the obvious?

by iowa plowboy on Jun 11, 2007 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

lol this is why i have givin up on this team awhile ago. they are lead by a LOSER! and ainge has fallen into that category as well. no celtics for me until they find the right people putting that team together!

by AdrianoMG6 on Jun 11, 2007 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

He kinda has a point… it can’t all be on Doc, but he sure has his share and he knows it. If Gerald doesn’t come around, is it Doc’s fault or Gerald’s? I think it would be both in the end, but it should be more on the player than the coach, he can only help facilitate, he can’t think for the player. I think that now the players are more experienced with the offense, he will focus a lot more on the defense and things should start to click. With Rondo around showing what defense can do, it can only make the players around him more hungry. If Tony comes back healthy and we draft Brewer… that is some defense and it should bring the others around and light a fire under their butts.

CsfanNH

by CsfanNH on Jun 11, 2007 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

NH, you have to have a coherent defensive concept before anybody is going to be successful. Doc’s team play a scheme full-time. A scheme that good teams may use 2-3 times per game. You can use a blowtorch to light a fire under the butts of the others…It really won’t matter. Because if everybody is mismatched and out of position it really doesn’t matter. It’s the system….and the idiot implementing it. Doc may not be able to think for the player, but it’d be real nice if he’d think for himself once in awhile…As in mixing in a zone from time to time and… alas…..a real NBA type defense.

by iowa plowboy on Jun 11, 2007 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow this is really depressing. It sounds like they are already throwing in the towel on next season. Danny better fire Doc pronto when we have another bad start. Have a feeling though Danny will stand by his man like he always does.

by orrzor on Jun 11, 2007 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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