KG Deal "Hits a Snag"

no

I’d give them Green for Jaric if they take Telfair too…

Oh my God. It’s worse than even I thought.

Cmon. Green #5 Jefferson Telfair for KG Jaric? Please people please

Obviously no if Jaric and Green are part of the deal.

The more interesting part of this is that someone is actually confirming that Theo would NOT be part of the KG deal. This lends credibility to the idea that Ainge is legitimately working towards swinging TWO major deals, whether it’s KG and Marion, KG and Lewis, etc.

couldn’t type that quick enough.

My head is spinning. Doesn’t it seem like, even though it’s all talk right now, Ainge is NOT in control.
That worries me.

There is no way Ainge trades Al, Green and the #5 for KG and Jaric.

Mike

Well, getting KG in a trade was a “pipe” dream to begin with. It’s time to back away and explore other potential deals. The Wolves don’t seem pressed to deal KG but are testing the “ceiling” to see if there is a deal out there that they can’t refuse.

To make a trade you need at least two teams that want to TANGO and that means an exchange of fair value, not robbing the cookie jar! Pass, Danny unless the offers seem more practical. The Wolves must sense that you are DESPERATE!

If Ainge weren’t in control, the deal would be done already and we’d get hosed. I trust that Ainge is in control. You realize that we’ll have to give something to get something. But Minnesota is not bargaining from a position of strength and Ainge knows it.

AL #5 is way too much. 2 years of National Exposure and then right back to rebuilding. Adding Gerald is just insult to injury.

Walk away Danny. Walk away.

The Marion deal is better. At least you have 3 all star talents instead of 2 that are in their 30’s. etting rid of the 5 and picking up bad contracts. This is suicide. Let’s start a patriots blog.

This shows teams think they can just own Ainge in trades because its been done in the past. His rep is killing the Cs in these negotiations.

This deal just keeps getting worse and worse.

THAT’S TO MUCH FOR TO LITTLE. GARNETT IS AN GREAT PLAYER GOING DOWN HILL SOON. NOT TO MENTION HE COULD OPT OUT AFTER THIS SEASON. AL IS AN GOOD PLAYER THAT IS GOING TO BE GREAT. IF DANNY BOY MAKE THIS DEAL IT WOULD BE THE WORST RISKY TRADE IN CELTICS HISTORY. I WOULD RATHER SIGN DINO RADJA BACK FOR AN 1 YEAR 45 MILLION $ CONTRACT

After the Telfair deal, the rest of the league must think Ainge has “MORON” tattooed on his forehead. If Ainge trades Big Al for Garnett, not to mention any of this other nonsense, the rest of the league will be right.

I remember Wyc constantly saying he was in this for the long hual, that he did not get rich by being a “day trader.” If he greenlights this idiotic proposal, it means Wyc has gone over the the hedge fund dark side.

Gee I wonder if McHale offered Blount to. This is rediculous. All I can say, if McHale got greedy and walked away from getting Jefferson, the number 5 and Theo’s contract trying to get Jaric thrown in, he is dumber than Ainge. I am starting to not believe these reports. If Al Jefferson and the five pick were really on the table, the deal would have been done by now.

Not that I really put any stock in all this….

But a deal in which Ainge and McHale are battling wits? Nothing could be more fascinating – except maybe watching two squirrels play Monopoly for like 10 hours.

Heck, let’s just swap teams with the Wolves…

Wasn’t it “hit a stag”?

I don’t get how we cannot include Ratliff’s deal. Garnett would cost Ratliff the farm to move Garnett’s contract. Huh? How many assets are we going to trade away for Garnett’s deal? Are we going to bring Davis back? How does this work!!!!?!?!!

This whole deal is dumb.

Garnett

for

Ratliff
Jefferson
Telfair
Allen
Scalabrine

doesn’t even work under trade checker! Who/what else are we going to include to make this deal work?

hahahhhhahhhahaha……..ya, this ones not happening

It just oges to show you how bad Danny Ainge truly is at trading.

Kevin F’ing McHale is fleecing us!!!!

McHale!!

I can’t get over it.

If I wasn’t at work I would be drinking myself to sleep even though it’s my girlfriends birthday.

Wait a second…say Ainge could get Marion or Lewis for Theo straight up. Wouldn’t a package of Al, #5, Wally, and Theo for KG and Marion be worth it? I mean I know Al has a promising future ahead, but let’s not forget that before last Decemeber we were all wondering whether or not he may be a bust. It’s not like his ankle problems have magically subsided. He had a great 4-5 months of basketball. That’s it. I don’t think we can underestimate Kevin Garnett and the passion he will undoubtedly bring to this team, and more importantly this basketball city. No free agents want to come here because no one can remember how magical this city and fans can truly be. Let Pierce, KG, and Marion go to war with anyone in the East. I think after 15 years of agony this would at least bring some passion back to this organization.

Anyone else severely depressed that we’re talking about this right now instead of:
A – should we take Oden or Durant? and
B – what coach should we hire?

This team is not even close. Does anyone here seriously think that KG and PP could beat Lebron James? Even if they could, could they get beat any team from the west? I don’t think so which makes this deal pointless… unless you want to sell lots of shirts.

Garnett is overrated bwahahahhahaa

Lovethecees hit it right on the head. Danny is no longer in control. Mchale playing him like a puppet right now and is getting possibly two future all-stars for a has been all star. NOT GOOD!

If this is all the keep Pierce happy I’m pissed. I do agree with Hoops though about the Cs keeping the Theo contract in exchange for Marion. That could make the whole thing work but I don’t see the Cs being able to afford all of this.

If this happens, Wyc is going to be in the running with John Y Brown for worst owner in Celtics history — and that’s saying something given the Gaston’s, Irv Levin’s etc that have controlled this team in the past.

It’s amazing how smart people can do such stupid ass things.

Forget Danny, if this train wreck happens, it’s all on you Wyc.

this is starting to be just plain horrible…

You people act like we know any of this stuff is true. Sources say? Yeah sources and three bucks will get you a esspresso at Starbucks and not much else. Can we at least hold off the suicides until there is actualy a deal and we know what it is? Like I said above, I am starting to really doubt these reports.

If I were Wyc I would overrule Danny doing a trade anywhere near this draft. But then again, I wouldn’t be Wyc.

“Fredo,from now on, you’re not a brother to me, you’re not a friend, you’re nothing.”

Jeff, your making us sick with all this trade talk…and I mean it in a good way…

Nothing is going to happen…… NOTHING… no trade

If anything Danny is drawing interest in Celtic fans and maybe increasing the value that other teams may have to acquire KG if the Celtics don’t

Nice, a snag. It looks like McHale’s greediness might ultimately cost his team, I hope this means Danny Ainge is going to pull out of the trade. Wow, I can’t believe that McHale actually wanted more than we offered, if this trade doesn’t work out, the Celtics will be saved for the next decade and a half.

JohnCK I would agree with you except for the ‘where there’s smoke there’s fire thing’. Too much smoke on this one and a lot of it is coming from Bulpett. I’m guessing something is close to happening.

does anyone have danny ainge’s phone number?

this is madness. complete madness

Kuberski33,

I think you are right something is going to happen. But, we just won’t know the details until it does. It is pointless to get all worked up about Danny getting robbed or the ownership selling out the team until you actually see what happens. What if the Celtics manage to get KG and keep Jefferson? I would think people would be singing a different tune then. We just don’t know.

yeah lets give minny the 5th this yr their first next yr
give them theo and telfair and big al and gomes and a 2nd rnd
pick and of course green and our #32 this yr for jaric 10 million
a year boondoggle and a 31 yr old who will have the same stats as
just one player in big al.in 2007/8.. sure lets do it .. oh wait mavbe we
should sweeten the pot with 3.5 million cash too

Perk,

You forgot to include Blount coming back to Boston in the deal. If you are going to make a bad deal, why not go all the way and make the worst deal ever.

possibly two future all-stars for a has been all star

It is very likely that Jefferson and Green together will have less All-Star appearances over their careers than Garnett will have between now and the moment he retires.

It’s going to happen.

I don’t see how we can take back Jaric’s deal unless we werer shipping them Wally along with Theo as well.

The following scenario works financially:

Boston trades: Ratliff, Wally, Jefferson, Scal, Telfair, Green and #5 pick

Boston receives: Garnett, Jaric and McCants

this is a little off topic, but has anyone been
able to calculate the almost impossible and extremely
large improbability of the top two teams in the draft
not getting a 1 or a 2 between them , coupled with
portland and also seattle both defying the odds
and moving up along with atlanta moving in front of memphis
too

If that was referring to my comment, Brick, I have Green slotted at 1 career All-Star appearance. I’d be happy though if he can prove me wrong. :)

Danny is not stupid. Neither is Wyc. He must posturing for others to imrpove on their offers to him by making it look like something is imminent with Minny. This ploy would serve Danny’s friend Kevin as well in their attempt to get bast value for KG (from Chi probably). I know this is wishful thinking – all I can do is pray and you all should as well.

Can’t really blame McHale…once you take Ainge to the cleaner’s once you get greedy. I guess he wanted to see if Ainge could “top” last year’s draft day deal.

  Danny is not stupid. Neither is Wyc. He must be posturing for other teams to improve their offers to him for the 5 by making it look like something is imminent with Minny. This ploy would serve Danny’s friend Kevin as well in his attempt to get bast value for KG (from Chi probably). I know this is wishful thinking – all I can do is pray and you all should as well.

sorry about the repost

Not to long ago people on here were saying we are to young. That we veterans. Now that we have a shot at veterans you want to keep the youngs. You have to give to get. 21 years is long enough!

You dont win titles in this day by holding on to all your picks and delveloping them. Look at the last title winners. Look at the teams that have the most homegrown players ( Seattle, Boston). Pretty clear to a 5th grader.

I’m already heading to the asylum!!!!!!!! anyone care to join me!!!!!!

We need a life….this is getting ridiculous

This is going to be horrible. And for whatever reason, I’m not a KG fan, making it awful to think of him as a Celtic. I’v been a Celtic fan a long time, and the last 20 years has been a disaster. Its management that creates champions, and this team hasn’t had good management since they went public

Trade me! Trade me!!!!

Pierce is nearing the end. Garnett is 31 and has never been able to carry a team deep into the playoffs. Apparently the trade requires that we forfeit every asset except Pierce. This isn’t rocket science. Prettly clear to a 5th grader.

If this happens… ugg…

… no, it can’t. This just can’t.

Fueling my thoughts that the reported deal was the Minny starting point. Then Minny realized, wait our salary cap situation still stinks. Next they will figure out how to dump salary, and finally Danny will swap, say Perk for AJ in the deal to even it out.

:::::::::::One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest:::::::::

Nurse Ratched is responsible for all this… how else can we explain what’s going on….

Maybe the Chief will be coming to play for the Celtics….

That’s it….I have it….Billy is Danny’s Dad….. this solves everything….. P-p-p-please d-d-don’t tell my m-m-m-mother

As McMurphy (McHale) said to the Chief(Danny). What are we doing in here, Chief? Huh? What’s us two guys doing in this f—-ing place? Let’s get out of here. Out.

They both belong on the Golf course and not running franchises……. I’ve said my peace with all this trade talk

The Celtics are desperate. Idiot Rivers is pushing for the deal. Grousbeck’s bean counters are pushing for the deal.

It will be a disaster, a total, irretrievable disaster. The rest of the league will be laughing their heads off at the Celtics. I smelled this two weeks ago, and its happening.

Three weeks ago everyoone was sayign trade the pick for a veteran. I hope all you people clammering to move the pick for a vet will realize what a bad idea this is.

We have to go celtic pride on danny until after the draft.

How about if everyone backs away from the edge until we actually have a deal to critique. I’m sure the rumors we’re hearing right now are offers and counteroffers. It’s pretty tough to lambast a trade when you don’t even know what the pieces actually are yet.

What is wrong with you guys? We’re going to have to make some kind of trade to get better. What are you saying, go to war with the same team we had last year plus another rookie? That’s a 36 win team. I don’t want that.

You’re going to have to give to get. Everything Danny has done has been in preparation for this offseason. Have faith!

Just when you think we’ve bottomed out.

Lets get KG, trade for Sam Cassell, and keep Kandiman. Then we’ll really have contender. NOT !! :P

Perk, I heard it was less than .5%… makes ya think huh?

Doesn’t Wally kinda have to go if KG comes in?
I mean Organizationally, not to make the money work.
Wally was one of the more popular players in Minny, and got sent out because he and KG were clashing right?

JohnCK, you are my hero.

In the NBA, the smoke/fire thing is usually not true. Most of what is written on the Internet is not true. Almost anything that cites unnamed sources is not true.

Reporters need stories. If they have to make things up, or make them into more than they are, so be it.

Again, name any other NBA team with a stud 22 year old PF, who averaged 19 and 10, who would even make that player available?

First, Jefferson averaged 16 ppg. 16 is not 19. I understand that he’s valuable, but the blog population is being delirious.

@gobo: I think Wally will have to go anyway to make the contracts match. There is just not enough crap to Ratliff’s 11.6 to get close enough to Garnett’s 21. :)

johnnyrondo said:

"Again, name any other NBA team with a stud 22 year old PF, who averaged 19 and 10, who would even make that player available?’

Portland with Zach Randolph— but that’s because (1) he’s a selfish thug, and (2) they won the lottery, instead of losing it.

So you guys wanted a veteran, eh? You wanted to get older rather than younger, eh? Well, welcome to the world of Marko Jaric.

There is an old syaing: “Be careful of what you ask for, because you just might get it.”

Well, you’re getting it.

It just gets worser and worser…and worser. I can’t believe Ainge will trade Big AL. If he does, I’m through after 52 years—as if anyone will care.

Well, let me amend the above. I’ll be a fanatic supporter of an eternal and total Celtic collapse.

everything about this deal sucks. if we lose our #5 and jefferson for garnett, let alone this other junk… i will march on the garden.

hahahaha. I love it. Ainge is about to be shafted twice by the only GM in the league people think is worse than him. Hahahahhahahhaa. OMG! Enjoy kool-aiders, enjoy. Trading the young guy for the old guy ALWAYS WORKS! Right? Right?! And we’ll be fine as long as Danny gets a 2nd rounder in the deal so he can exercise his “draft genius” by unearthing the next Orien Greene. I’m with Brick. Go Raptors!

these are all just crazy rumors. i bet the next one will include the c’s getting back shiftless mark blunt for delonte and 3 of the best looking dancers.

Anyone foolish enough to compare PP & Garnett with Kobe & Shaq should remember who the coaches are/were/would be.

Since 75 percent of us want to keep Al vs KG according to the Celticsblog poll the trade in some sort of fashion will probably happen!

Garnett (year 3) 39.3, .491, .738, 9.6, 18.5
Al (year 3) 33.6, .514, .681, 11.0, 16.0

On the subjects of trades, here’s a 2 for 1: Rivers and Ainge for Pitino. And follow it with Wyc for Gaston even up.

Siggy,

What we’re saying is you shouldn’t trade all of your assets in one deal and Al should be untouchable. If you use the pick on a guy like Brewer you can still move Theo, Green, the pick from Minny and Gomes in a deal to get another vet and you woudl still have Al and Brewer. How much do you think it would take to get Lewis in a sign and trade? Would you rather move it all for KG or would you rather start Rondo, Brewer, Pierce, Al and Lewis.

Now we have Dale Arnold saying bring in Garnett even though he has never probably watched him play more than two games. Too many people getting caught up in a high priced player who can’t win.
We should have learned our lesson from the Alen Iverson mvoe to Denver I’ll bet Denver is thrilled at their playoffs results. So much for the two superstars on a team to make a playoff run.
We need to have all of us who want to keep Jefferson to call the Celtics and leave a message to Danny, or Wyc or Twiss(Phone 617-854-8000). We need to let them know that Jefferson is their new franchise player and we don’t need a 31 year old retread who may decide to leave after next year.

Dr. Smith’s Insult should be Danny’s

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please no

Rondo – can’t shoot
Pierce – can’t pass
Tony Allen – can’t think
Perk – can’t play
Garnett – can’t win

Sounds like a great deal to me!

Johnnyrondo- that was dumb. Even if this trade goes through Conley will be gone, Horford will be gone, and Green won’t be included. Back away from the ledge and take a breath.

The majority of this board feels the trade (as reported) is a bad one and that is fine. However, the majority of this board voted last year that, if given the choice, they would rather trade Big Al than Perkins. So, lets just say there is a chance that the majority is wrong on this one too.

Can the federal government perform an extraordinary rendition on Ainge for two weeks?

If any deal resembling this junk goes down, I will become a Sonics fan.

I think it’s safe to say it is time to pull everything off of the table and let everyone wise up! This is getting more ridiculous by the day! Both the Wolves and Celtics have been horrible for the last few years, so why would should we be swapping as many players as we have already – or will? The Wolves were asking too much to begin with, so hopefully this smartens Ainge up to just say no. Proceed with the draft and try for a veteran with the Ratliff contract afterwards (Gasol, Marion, Lewis). I am not opposed to using some of our young talent to acquire veterans (that is what Ainge got them for) – I just don’t want him to use every single one we have all on one bad deal that may set the franchise back even further!

Does anyone know how Minny’s dancers compare to ours? This might be what evens things out.

looks like i watched my last Celtics game they do this and no one should go to a game next year period

McHale is leaking like a hole on this one… that’s why you are getting their ridiculous starting point.

The most logical trade is for Minny to get back Picks and clear cap space. KG, Hudson, Jaric for expiring deals (or maybe one year left) plus picks – which they are woefully short on.

Perk (decent affordable young guy), Telfair (expiring), Theo (expiring), Wally (popular in Minnny only two years left), Green (young cheap high upside), Gomes (cheap expiring), West (cheap expiring) are all guys that could fit the bill so to speak. In terms of draft picks, we have two very valuable picks in this draft, all our first and second rounders, an extra second rounder in 2008, and the Minny pick. We can make the deal sans AJ and I think if a deal is made we will (or we’ll keep #5). Also with respect to all the young guys on the team, they were all acquired with not so high draft picks, in decent drafts, I don’t blame DA for viewing them as what they are: good finds, but replaceable. In fact we can make this deal and still have enough left to move up and grab Sean Williams, who is better in every aspect than Perk right now:

Rumors boys! Just Rumors… Let’s wait and see before we all slit our wrists!

I don’t think I would trade Big Al straight across for KG right now anyway… Let alone this other. How about KG for #5, Next year’s first rounder, Green, West, TA, Perk, and Theo’s contract…Works in the trade machine. I know this leans more our way by a little, but GG’s upside, a #5 in a very deep draft, next years pick, and some very nice players with potential. Minnesota knows they aren’t going anywhere without starting over and a lot of these pieces can be traded easily or cut due to their salaries being low. We could even throw in some cash to cover a salary or two if they didn’t think they would be part of their plans.

They really are only giving up 2 years worth of KG. They know he isn’t going to re-up after this and so when you compare that to what we are giving them it really isn’t that much of a stretch. Not one big name, but a lot of value to rebuild around.

Big Al is more untouchable IMO than PP…

Welcome back Playa….That was you who told me I was crazy about the draft order, wasn’t it???? Hmm…..

But you’re right about Big Al.

Attica! Attica! Attica! Attica!!!!!

yes,sorry guys… but today has been a crazy day….

my bad!

I knew that the Celtics were in trouble when Danny hired the brain doctor.

Is it possible to have Ainge committed for incompetence?

Well, looks like we go to plan B. Mercifully.

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If the Minnesota Timberwolves are listening to offers for Kevin Garnett, the player is trying to make their job easier.

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2007 Season Stats GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
76 22.4 12.8 4.1 .476 .835

Forget Boston, is the word from the star center.

Garnett’s agent, Andy Miller, told ESPN.com’s Chris Sheridan that Garnett made it known to the Wolves and Celtics late Wednesday that he had no interest in playing for Boston. The implication was clear: If Minnesota dealt him to Boston, Garnett would opt out of his contract next summer.

“The Boston trade isn’t happening,” Miller told Sheridan on Thursday. “If a trade were to happen, that’s not a destination that we’re interested in pursuing.”

Asked where Garnett would prefer to be dealt, Miller replied: “Too early. Ask me in two days.”

Garnett has “a good handle on the possibility of being traded,” Miller said. “Kevin is an extremely loyal person, and loyalty is not a common factor among pro athletes, but in this situation he understands he has to put his long-term considerations ahead of the Minnesota Timberwolves’ long-term considerations.”

Kevin McHale, the Timberwolves’ vice president of basketball operations, has been pressed of late on Minnesota-Boston discussions over Garnett following Danny Ainge’s admission to The Boston Herald that he has talked to McHale about Garnett.

“Who knows what’s going to happen?” McHale told reporters Wednesday after the Wolves worked out college stars Jeff Green and Al Horford in preparation for the draft. “But we’re not out there actively shopping Kevin Garnett around the NBA. I can tell you that much.”

Because Garnett can opt out of his contract after next season, the Timberwolves run the risk of losing him without compensation if they don’t trade him before then and he tires of not playing on a competitive team. That has ramped up speculation that he could be on the move, and the possible destinations are popping up all over the place as they always do this time of year.

Chris Sheridan covers the NBA for ESPN Insider. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

A new Sheridan article over at ESPN says Garnett is saying he doesn’t want to play for Boston and will opt out if that is his destination.

“The Boston trade isn’t happening,” Miller told Sheridan on Thursday. “If a trade were to happen, that’s not a destination that we’re interested in pursuing.”

Linkage: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2912075

Wolves-Celtics trade talk? Garnett says forget it, ESPN SWIPE!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2912075

So we’re back with the #5, et al.

Let’s assume this report is accurate. Given that most blue chip veterans don’t want to play in Boston, we have no other choice but to ride the youth movement and build team pride from within. This begs at least two questions. What to do with Pierce and why is Rivers still coaching for us?

one can only hope

 HEY BOSTON, DOTN WORRY ABOUT AL, YOU CAN KEEP HIM. KG DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR YOU..
so, now everyone that wanted to Keep AL, and hope PP does want to jet town. Nice trying to do business with ya

Garnett’s agent, Andy Miller, told ESPN.com’s Chris Sheridan that Garnett made it known to the Wolves and Celtics late Wednesday that he had no interest in playing for Boston. The implication was clear: If Minnesota dealt him to Boston, Garnett would opt out of his contract next summer.

“The Boston trade isn’t happening,” Miller told Sheridan on Thursday. “If a trade were to happen, that’s not a destination that we’re interested in pursuing.”

I think it’s obvious KG wants to go to Phoenix (Why he wouldn’t want to go to Boston I have no idea, what with it being freezing cold in the winter and having it be a baseball town year round).

We should turn our attention back to Marion/Lewis if this report is accurate. And best of all: NOT trade Jefferson.

Just because Garnett does not want to play for us doesnt mean we still wont be involved with the trade..

Remember the Suns?

Boston was never a viable destination for KG.. because he knows he cant win here.

Looks like the best we can hope for is marion.

otherwise we can sit and watch our team win 30 this year, (while we trade PP at the trade deadline), we can watch us win 37 next year (while we sit here and get upset because AL is averaging 18 and 10 and plays in around 60 games due to injury, while KG is still a 20 10 guy who plays in 82 games) and in 2011 we can maybe make it to the playoffs..

 sounds good to me

THANK YOU KG!!!!!

Now what to do with Theo’s expiring contract? That is the killer question. Do you make a move with it and get something back even if it is a role player?

Strangely enough, I think a lot of what the Celtics do depends on Kendrick Perkins. If he is 40% better being healthy vs. if he isn’t much better than last season, the Celtics should have different strategies. Other thoughts?

ouch, no matter how you feel about trading Al, having KG say he doesn’t want to play for Boston (I presume because of how the team’s constructed) has to hurt somewhat.

Reminds me of when the Bulls tried to get TMac and Grant Hill in free agency, were turned down, and then tried Glen Rice and were turned down and had to settle for Ron Mercer. ugh.

hurt who? the trade would have not what he said thanks kg did not want the trade anyway.

Whew, way to go KG, I owe you for this! I think at this point it’s pretty clear that we just aren’t going to attract any quality free agents at the moment. Which isn’t altogether shocking considering who would want to go to a team with the 2nd worst record in the league (okay maybe Joe Johnson but no one who’s serious about winning). I think it’s time to put the priority towards moving Pierce before his extension kicks in and we can’t find a taker for his 20mil a year salary.

I never thought it would feel so good to root for a team that is “not a destination that we’re interested in pursuing.” I’m glad someone was willing to save Grousbeck and Ainge from their own stupidity.

Now maybe they can turn their attention to what they should have been focused on all along: drafting the best player, turning Pierce into younger assets and negotiating extensions with Jefferson and West.

WEEI flashboy Pete just said that Garnett said today that he would opt-out if traded to the Celts.

My God, how much time have I wasted reading this blog today?

Wait, wait. Sources say Ainge is offering Jefferson, Rondo, Ratliff, and the fifth pick for Stephon Marbury. I’ve checked the Trade Checker, it could work!

Anthony…best post I’ve seen yet.

And Hoops, you stole my name and I don’t mind after seeing your thoughts posted on here.

Ainge getting talent and assets like he said he would put us in a great place and we should be able to get a great player with Theo’s contract (not a bad trade getting it now was it?) and the #5 will get us a player or a very solid player (Brewer or Wright).

Year 5 in the 5 year plan looks great.

Gomes vs Walker debate? Walkoff for Gomes…