Much Ado About Nothing!?

Noah gives the Celtic’s a young Kirilenko with the hope that an offensive game will come later. Brewer duplicates Tony Allen but the tandem could supply the perimeter defense this team lacks. Yi would be a poor man’s Gasol, at least as long as it takes him to learn the NBA game.

There are other options too.

doesn’t suprise me at all. i have suspected all along that the garnett trade was more hype than substance.

And not Green? I have my doubts about this report… what’s a tangible offer mean in this context?
I don’t see Noah as a Kirilenko at all.

I don’t believe these disclaimers. Phoenix is working out Horford and Brewer. Why would the Suns do that if a deal to acquire a top 5 or 6 pick were not in place?

IMHO Ainge has already traded #5 away, most likely for Marion. So we can probably look forward to weeks of phony drama as Marion threatens not to report and the Celtics’ brass spends most of the Summer kissing his arse.

Brick, while you may be right about Pheonix already aquiring a top 5 pick, it could be that they are just doing their homework incase they can get one. Ainge worked out players that would be middle of the first round picks, does that mean they have another pick or that he had to do his homework incase they are able to trade down or back into the draft?

Workout time is precious. IMHO Phoenix has a deal lined up. It may not be final, but it’s close. There is no other explanation.

I suppose the deal could be with Atlanta or Memphis. My guess is that the player Phoenix really wants is Yi. If the scouting reports are acurate he’s a perfect fit for their system, although Brewer is a very good fit too and would be a cheap replacement for Marion.

Jeff said:

“every player wants to work out with Phoenix, all they have to do is ask and the players will come running”

Well sure. The question isn’t why the invtation was accepted, it’s why it was issued. I’m sure that D’Antoni has plenty to do, and would not waste his time working players out unless he thought he had a good shot at them.

It’s draft time. Noone will tell you the truth.

The word Joomla itself is an English spelling of the Swahili word jumla meaning “all together” or “as a whole”.

I have no idea why I chose to share this.

Oops – had two threads open there..sorry :o

“And like every year, we’ll probably see two minor deals involving scrubs and second round picks.”

Or, like last year, we’ll see a major deal involving a scrub point guard and our high lottery pick.

(I say that facetiously, but I suppose it is possible, if the C’s swing a major deal for the #5 in which Telfair gets shipped out of town.)

Brick…Horford worked out for the C’s and its unlikely he’ll be there. Those Florida guys are working out for everyone because they have class. They don’t turn down a challenge or anything. They were taught very well at UF by Coach Donovan to have class, respecet, and a great work ethic.

how about, “Boston. We’re just like Phoenix… without the nice weather. The playoff appearences. The competent front office. The star player who actually makes his teammates better. The lack of scorn from the rest of the league.”

These are terrible, terrible times for this franchise. My official prediction of the week: Ainge will offer Jefferson, the pick and Ratliff for Jason Kidd and the Nets 17 pick, hoping to grab Al Thornton or McRoberts. The team payroll can only absorb two max contracts, and Pierce wants one of those contracts to be his precious “veteran all-star” help. Bye bye Big Al.

The Jason Kidd deal simply won’t happen. Ainge is satisfied with Rondo and Kidd is showing his age more than KG or Mario. In addition, this team needs size inside or size and athleticism anywhere.

We can’t believe anything the media says – one way or another. There may already be a deal arranged, there may be nothing. As brick says, the only thing which gives true evidence for something is that Phoenix is working out lottery picks. There must be some reason for them to do that, so they’ve either got a shot at the #7 or the #5.

I for one, still hope we hold onto the pick and draft Yi. I’m willing to be patient with him.

The logical arguement isn’t the point Moskqq. The team needs a “name” to make Prince Paul feel like he’s on a real NBA team so he doesn’t demand a trade. That is the franchise’s most pressing need, like it or not. Garnett and Marion are no go’s, and Gasol is likely to either stay put or get moved to Chicago/L.A. Who else is out there? And if you say Rashard Lewis, I’ll just cry.

As for Rondo, I’m not sure how secure the team can be entrusting the starting PG duties to a guy who can’t shoot, finish at the rim, or serve as a classic playmaker. Rondo is a defense oriented, up tempo back-up pg. He will thrive on a losing team, or serve a modest role on a winning one. Either way, he is not our PG of the future and I have to think someone in this embarassing organization is aware of this.

I would cry if we drafted Noah with #5. Don’t do it Danny!

Brick,

You read too much into Pheonix working out Brewer and the bunch. How can you make a trade for the 5th pick unless you evaluate the players who might be available there? Pheonix is looking at those players to see if they have any desire to trade Marion for the 5th or 6th pick.

Everyone is assumeing that Pierce will go Vince Carter, but why? He has never caused trouble before. Further, Pierce is not Kobe or Garnett. He is not that good. He is in line to make max money for three straight years starting in 08. No one is going to want to pay him that. He can scream all he wants, but honestly, is there any team that is going to take him and his 60 million extension? I don’t think so. Pierce is better off where he is. He is the marquee player on a team that wants him and will pay him a ton. When his contract runs out, he will 34 and still have a couple of years to sign an MLE with any team he wants. Notice that both Kobe and Garnett have opt out clasues. That is how they can demand a trade. If Pierce wanted out of Boston, he would have never signed the extension. Doing so leaves him with no leverage whatsoever. It may be that the Celtics take the best player available and either trade Wally and uses Theo’s money to resign Jefferson or does nothing and stays under the luxury tax as Theo and Wally’s contracts expire.

Well, regarding the original KG rumor, that “Ainge and McHale” haven’t spoken recently, that jives with the report from SI.com, stating that Minnesota GM Jum Stack is making the KG calls, and not McHale, so that Kevin can maintain plausible deniability.

As for #5 already being promised to the Suns, I think that makes more sense than Minnesota giving up #7 in a KG trade. Marion may not like the idea of Boston, but he doesn’t really have much say, and if the C’s are keeping AL and the other current young players (surrendering something like Wally and Telfair (to the Wolves) and the pick to Phoenix).

Or maybe Ainge and Kerr are both using Marion-to-Boston talks to squeeze the Wolves. There are plenty of possibilities…

Here’s the link to the SI.com report, by Ian Thomses:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/ian_thomsen/06/18/garnett.notes/index.html

Jeff said,
So, umm, did I just waste a week of my life or what?

Many could say you have wasted more than just a week, some say years, I say you didn’t waste any time.

CsfanNH

AS for me the best deal out there is with Goldewn state for J Richardson and A. Biedriens and #18 and 36 for our #5 and wally. Other than that we should drfat Yi Jianlian and trade Pierce to Atlanta or Charlotte for their two first round picks. That All Folks.

there is no way that’s gonna happen

Freeease1 – That’s not all folks, that is absolutely one of the most rediculous trade proposals I have ever seen on here. It has to have at least a semblance of possibility! Why on earth would Golden State make that deal?! They would be giving up a 10 pt, 10 board, and almost 2 blocks a game 21 yr old in Biedrins, and a career 18 pt scorer who is 26 yrs old for a 15 ppg often injured 30 yr old Wally and a few spots up the board?! Why don’t we just ask the Lakers to trade Kobe for Telfair and the #5 pick! Stop wasting space!! Come up with something legit…

This KG thing better not happen or there are going to be a lot more people joining Brick and mpcu40 in Toronto!

It can be a good idea to work guys out, even if you aren’t planning to draft them, because you may want to acquire them at some later point in their career via trade or free agency.

as predicted by me – the sound and the fury…

Draft Yi? Why is Tskitishvili unavailable?

ak47 is the guy i go after.

I like all three of those, Noah, Brewer and Yi. What happened to all the hype and big talk about Green and B.Wright? They not that good or what? I think the ones we dont talk about are the ones to watch. Wish we could get Horford. 8)

I was feeling pretty good after seeing this, however Bulpett just changed that. In the Herald he writes that this deal is not over yet and I could puke.