Or We Could Just Do Nothing

Wright , Horford or Yi will be available at #5. Let’s stay put.

Haha , I love this pic of me & Green. Good work guys. 8)

I’m on board with Jefferson on this one. Keep the pick. Use Theo’s attractive contract and a future pick/Telfair to go after some veteran help. See if the Jazz might be willing to deal the disgruntled Kirilenko and reduce payroll. Or Denver with Nene.

I want to hear that Rondo and Jefferson are working on pick and rolls. That would improve this team.

As for the avatars, is there a way to deselect them from showing so that the page loads quicker?
Cool function, I just choose not to see it.

i love big al and i hope he stays injury free. he needs help down low. i have been advocating brewer with #5, but i think of danny’s trips to china and i really think he will pick yi. flying back and forth to china is no bluff. if for some reason yi is gone, i think it will be horford.

Big Al, I am so glad you are in celtic green! Turning into such a great rolemodel for up and coming players.

My best guess at what the Celtic’s will do (short of a “blockbuster” trade) will be to draft either Yi or Brewer at #5 or if they trade #5 and receive a #8 or #11 pick (as an example) as part of the trade, then they’ll draft Thornton with that later pick.

As has been suggested, drafting Conley at #5 will be purely done as part of a later trade. If they keep the #5 and select Yi and if Brewer is still on the table (or vice versa) they will look to trade Ratliff and Telfair for a draft pick to enable them to select Brewer/Yi still left on the table.

I have a feeling that they would ideally like to get 2 early round draft choices and three selections in the top 32. While Sean Williams is on their radar, drafting Yi or Brewer may change their priority to looking at PGs if a good one is still available at #32.

I see they are finally, grudgingly, going to bring Conley in for a workout. Hopefully this is NOT a preface to a trade, unless it is Rondo who is being traded.

I love the way folks here and in last night’s podcast are jumping on the Yi bandwagon without having seen him play. All I know is that he is somewhere on the Nowitzki-Tskitishvilli continuum. (Hey, that would make a great title for a sci fi novel.)

This blogging site has attracted such a diverse audience that one can expect controversy as a daily highlight.

Suddenly we discover major agreement, not on who the Celtic’s should draft or trade for, but in the prudent choice of Blatt as a new Celtic’s management recruit (GM or “leading assistant”). That concensus screams for execution…let it be so!!!!

If we trade down, would we consider taking Spencer Hawes? Center is a position of need. I haven’t seen Hawes, just heard that he’s a seven footer with the best low post moves in the draft.

i really like Big Al. he is seriously one of the best picks in the NBA in the last few years.

if he stays healthy, i fully expect him to be pushing for an All-Star spot next year.

he is our biggest ray of hope.

Let’s be realistic about what Boston needs
They just don’t have a consistent impact player.
Paul scores points but Paul handles the ball much too much which results in a high t/o ratio for him.
Paul needs to do what he does best and that is score and defend, and stop all the dribbling and forced passes
But getting back to the kind of player we need, we need a defensive big man who can also rebound, if he has a decent mid range shot all the better but more than anything else this team needs defense.
Rondo and Tony Allen were coming along beautifully but their guards.
Big Al has improved his defense but he’s playing out of position at the center position. Perkins is still very foul prone and unreliable defensively especially in the waning minutes of the game

I do think that if we trade down Hawes could be a good choice. While we need defense more than offense, finding a Sean Williams to complement Perkins and Hawes could work well.

On the other hand, drafting Hawes could continue to fill the pantry with tempting pieces for a later trade. Perkins/Hawes, either could be made available for the right trade.

argh Yi.. You Tube has alot to answer for..

Spencer Hawes is a poor mans Bill Wennington..

I could live with Conley as well .. i mean Point Guard seems to be becoming just a rare position to fill properly as the center position is lately..

Perhaps packaging Theo expriring deal / delonte / gomes /picks can bring in someone alongside Jefferson down low..

As tempting as Sean Williams may be, if Delonte West is moved as part of a Ratliff trade etc. our drafting priority for #32 changes from a Sean Williams type of player to a Jared Jordan type of player. Allan Ray simply hasn’t shown enough PG skills to work as Rondo’s back-up.

Imagine our quandry if Rondo got hurt and all we had at PG was Allan Ray. On the other hand , signing a veteran PG could be our best option because it would still allow us to look for a Sean Williams-type big at 32.

I love this kid. Big Al is showing that not only does he say the right things, he does the right things, too. He has matured so much in the last year it is hard to fathom. I feel good about our future as long as he’s around.

I haven’t seen Yi play, but his stats on the Chinese National team are not bad. If you assume that he was really born in 1984, which likely, he was only 22 in the 2006 World Championships and went for 6 points and 6 rebounds on the Chinese National team. That is not bad for someone who was at most 22 years old. Does anyone here think Scal, whose minutes Yi would be taking, would average that now, letalone when he was 22? I don’t know if Yi is Dirk, but he is definitely not Takisvili. He is going to be a good player and a good player immediately in the NBA. He wouldn’t be a bad pick.

I would love to see the Celtics get Hortford, but I don’t think he lasts past Memphis. Yi might go to Atlanta, but I still think they take Wright. That leaves both Yi and Brewer at five. Either one would be a huge upgrade over what they have. I think I would take Yi. As good as Brewer is, Yi has the better upside. Danny has been swinging for the fences for years, why stop now?

Can’t see Atlanta passing on Conley (though Billy Knight seems to have a history or picking the wrong person AND passing up point guards) or Memphis passing on Horford or Brandan Wright (mainly Horford). That would leave us with Wright, Brewer and Noah.
My board is Conley, Brewer and Noah. Wright’s weight and motivation scare the bejeezus out of me, and I’m no longer in the mood to wait four years for someone to blossom.
All I know is we need DEFENSE, particularly at small forward. So if Conley’s gone at 5, why pick Wright, a project, or Horford, the quintessential glass-ceiling forward, when we can get a Brewer or Noah who will be active on defense and shut people down? I’d throw Jeff Green into that group as well.
I’m just really trying to get a guy who can really be a glue-type guy and defend.
And I think Big Al would love that kind of player, too.

Who knows – maybe signing Conoley could be an in roads to signing Oden in time…ie…if Conoley loves Boston and reportedly these two are very very tight, maybe Oden would consider coming to the East Coast to play with his buddy. I can dream can’t I?

Could Conoley be this year’s CP3?

Otherwise, I’m happy with one of the bigs that is there at 5 – whether it’s Yi, Horford or B. Wright.

Conley is just a smooth operator. Always under control. The Wizard of Westwood said, “Act quickly but never hurry.” That describes Conley perfectly.

They will not trade Ratliff and bring back added salary. Most GM’s will take size 1st so Atlanta easily picks one of Yi, Horford or Wright instead of Conley. Billy Knight does not think outside the box. Ainge does though and I think he could be pulling a fast one. Got everyone thinking Yi and now will “grudgingly” be bringing in Conley for a work out. Danny believes in uptempo. The bigs go first and we will get Conley.

Brewer may be very good at D but I think his offense is overrated. You take him but not at #5. Jeff Green is a better bet at #5 than Brewer.

I am not totally sold on Conley. Even if you are, you have to look at need. The Celtics have a potential starting PG in Rondo. They have no potential starting quality big men outside of Jefferson. It is clear that Perkins is going to be an enforcer off the bench type but not a starting center. Gomes is too small. The Celtics have to get Jefferson some help down low. I can’t see passing on a guy like Yi or Hortford for Conley.

As I keep saying, draft Conley and trade Rondo.

How about this, draft, Conley and package Rondo, Green and Theo Ratliff to Detroit for Rasheed Wallace. Detroit needs to blow their team up and are looking at loosing Billups to free agency. They get a replacement for Billups, huge cap relief and Green. I know Rasheed is a head case but him and Al Jefferson would be very formidable.

I know that deal is very lopsided for Boston, but I am not sure where Rasheed can go. He has really about worn out his welcome in the league with his technicals and tantrums. After his blowup in the conference finals, he is done in Detroit, but who really wants him? Rasheed is the kind of talented player with baggage that the Celtics are going to have to take a chance on if they ever want to get any better.

"wdleehi said:

  I like that Pierce is bringing Jefferson out to LA to work together. See if they can improve their chemistry. "

agree 100% here. i love that west and tony have been workin with al and perk nonstop and the best news that perk hasnt been bothered at all by the PF so far. i expect good things from those 5 this next season. gotta feel good about that.

I wonder where Pierce and Jefferson will go out clubbing after their workouts.

“I wonder where Pierce and Jefferson will go out clubbing after their workouts.”

As long as Tony Allen and his possee are not along, I don’t see where that is a problem.

It depends on whether or not someone gets stabbed.

Well Brick, if Tony and his entourage is along, I doubt anyone will be stabbed or if they are, the person doing the stabbing will regret it. You know, that whole bringing a knife to a gunfight thing.

I don’t see why drafting Conley means trading Rondo. I like Conley a lot…pretty good at everything, young enough that he should improve, and (most importantly in a PG) has great instincts for running a team. But Rondo at worst would be a great change-of-pace 2nd PG in the Speedy Claxton mold, ideally becoming (if he learns to shoot) a Leandro Barbosa type. Also Rondo’s trade value can’t be that high, until he shows he can learn to shoot…and if he does, then I’d think we’d want to keep him.

There’s room enough for both. West would be trade bait though. Ainge may feel Conley is more ready to contribute than any available big. I see us drafting not making a “big trade”.

The reason you trade Rondo if you draft Conley is that the Celtics have to get a decent big man. Unless you think Perkins is going to get a whole lot better next year, the Celtics cannot go on with Scal getting 1000 minutes. That is why I don’t think you take Conley. Between West and Rondo, I think the Celtics can at least be passable at PG. I don’t see them being even passable down low after you get past Jefferson. That is why Yi is probably the pick.

Ainge is not going to trade Rondo. He traded back into the 1st round last year to get him. If the Celts do pick Conley at #5, it will be part of a trade down scenario to a team looking for PG help…Bucks, possibly Minn, Kings, Hawks @ #11, etc.

I am changing my thought. I think it is going to be Noah. I’ve been spouting Horford for a while now, but Noah measured out at 7’ and is an extreme uptempo energy type of guy. I look to see him running the floor, coming off the wing, and being dished to by Rondo.

Working out with Pierce is going to be great for Al. Remember the type of consition Pierce usually comines into camp in? If some of that rubs off onto Al, he will be an all star within the next 2 seasons.

I think Noah would be a good pick. I think he will probably turn into a healthy Marcus Camby. He has three years of top flight college experience. So he would contribute right away. Noah, Jefferson and Perkins would make a very nice down low rotation with Gomes filling in the gaps. That would put Scal to the end of the bench where he belongs and greatly improve the Celtics interior defense and depth. Noah is a very safe pick.

Joakim needs to stay away from Boston… I think he will be a rotation guy off the bench at best. Several of the other prospects I think have the chance to be legit superstars in the NBA down the road. The thought of Noah wearing Celtic green makes me very uneasy! I will be happy with Horford or Brewer and really happy if we can land Yi. PLEASE NO JOAKIM NOAH!!!!!

Here is my take of what Danny might have in mind.

If DA drafts big and would like to keep PP, then i say draft either Horford or Noah as both will contribute immediately and would compliment Big al in the best possible way.

If DA plans on trading PP but still wants to go big, Yi would be the best to draft at 5. He will then add whatever he gets for PP.

If the direction is having a trading partner, he will draft Conley,or Yi and dangle them to teams in need of em.

If Danny picks Brewer,or Green, i see a trade of either Allen/West and Gerald with Theo for a big man vet to help PP and Big Al.

We all know Ainge. The pick is going to be the one he isn’t talking up. By the way JohnCK, it is Horford, not Hortford…

I like how Big AL is thinking. Good positive thoughts…

Lets see if we can get AK-47 somehow…

Danny Ainge has always drafted for upside. He has never taken the safe pick. Last year when there wasn’t anyone available with big upside, he turned down the safe pick available with Roy and traded it. For that reason, I can’t shake the feeling he is going to take Yi Jianlian. At number five Jianlian will have the biggest upside of anyone available. More than Conley or Brewer or anyone. If the guy really can play, he is a 7 foot player who can finish, shoot, block shots and play any of the three front court positions. He is better than Dirk. Dirk is not as athletic as Yi and doesn’t finish like Yi. Granted, he may be a stiff to. But Ainge never takes the safe pick. With that kind of upside, I bet he take Yi Jianlian.

I think the best news here is that Tony Allen is healthy enough to work out already. That’s a great sign.

Wyc will make Danny take Jianlian for financial reasons, not basketball reasons. He’ll bring a lot of attention to the team. Jianlian will be a dud but for a couple of months they’ll be selling tons of jerseys (hopefully, bootleg so that Wyc doesn’t see a dime).

I’m lazy and don’t want to go through all the posts, but has anyone talked about bring Chauncey back? I think he still has the celtics tattoo.

John CK, what if there isn’t a big Ainge values at #5 vs. Conley? Say Oden, Durant, Yi & Horford are off the board. Maybe Ainge doesn’t want Wright, so he takes Conley. Maybe it’s for a later trade you never know. Also what veteran big man worth anything (besides maybe Camby) is going to be available for trade? The guy I don’t hear Danny talking about very much at all is Julian Wright. I’ve said before he’ll end up being one of the best ones out of this draft. Hmmmmm

JRH3,

I made that point yesterday. I think you could draft a big man and then trade Theo, West and Green to the Pistons for Billups on a sign and trade deal. Sign Billups to a four year deal in the $14 million range. That would have his deal expiring at the same time as Paul Pierce. Billups would provide leadership, defense and keep Paul happy. A lineup of Billups, Wally, Pierce, Jefferson and Perkins with Rondo, Allen Gomes and say Yi coming off the bench would not be bad at all.

JohnCk, nice one. You are ahead of me. It may take the C’s #5 pick to get Billups in a trade instead of that C’s ‘potential’ package. However I think you are right, with that lineup things may be alot slower but solid.

Someone hit the trade machine and get Chauncey in a C’s uniform. Jeff start tomorrows blog with a letter to Danny to reverse the Pitino curse and bring back our top pick!

Detroit would have to be desperate to make that trade. Wyc will have to pay luxury tax in 08/09 too.

Al Jefferson is becoming the more likeable guy, on a team of likeable guys.

Jeff, how come Jeff Green isn’t in the poll for the #5 pick? He’s better than everyone you have listed, imo.

I remember reading the press on Al before he was drafted, and he was a real mensch as a high schooler. (Presuming it’s possible to be a mensch coming from the impoverished rural south, of course.) And I’m glad to see now that he’s establishing himself in the NBA, he’s coming through as a stand-up guy again.

Detroit will be desparate. Billups is a free agent. He can leave for nothing. Billups is only scheduled to make $6 million next year before he opts out. He wants to get paid. If the Celtics outbid everyone else and Billups decides to come, the Pistons will have no choice but to take what the Celtics offer. Further, their current team is done. They need to rebuild around Tashawn Prince and Rip Hamilton and trade Billups and Wallace for cap space and young players. An $11 million expiring contract and two good young cheap players would fit that bill.

“Chauncey is TOO old to make a difference for this team in its current state.”

He is only 31 and he is a leader. He is the kind of player who can really make a difference with younger players. Think about what Sam Cassel did for the Clippers a couple of years ago. Billups could do the same for the Celtics. He has got three more productive years in him. Sign him to a four year deal, get three years to make a decent run and then trade him as an expiring contract in the fourth.

Well I like Billups, but if Rasheed Wallace is available I’d rather use assets to get him, so long as it doesn’t cost any draft picks.

Boston will not draft Noah at #5. Insiders at Florida have predicted that of the “big three”, Brewer will make the best NBA prospect. Brewer’s game has improved each year (Noah’s hasn’t), he can beat you both offensively and defensively and at 6’9" he qualifies as an important BIG, especially with his athleticism. The fact that Noah measured 7’ is impressive but at #5 we should be looking at “impact” players.

I agree with you Al, but you and me are in the minority!

Brick,

I would rather have Sheed than Billups. Wallace is definitely gone from Detroit. I really don’t know where he goes. He is immensely talented but such a nutcase that I am not sure anyone wants him. He is just the kind of player the Celtics need to take a chance on. Perhaps getting run out of his third franchise and ending up with a team just off the lottery would cause him to see the light and control himself.

“Where did Sam Cassel lead the Clippers? They couldn’t get over the hump.”

They won 47 games in 2006 with Cassell and went to the second round of the playoffs loosing to Pheonix in seven. The Celtics haven’t done that well since the big three retired. He lead them to a lot. Acquiring Cassell helped the Clippers a lot.

MCPU,

A second roung birth in the West in 2000s is better than going to the finals in the east. Sorry, but the Celtics team in 2002 couldn’t have own a round in the west letalone go seven games with the Suns.

JohnCK said:

“…Wallace is definitely gone from Detroit. I really don’t know where he goes. He is immensely talented but such a nutcase that I am not sure anyone wants him. He is just the kind of player the Celtics need to take a chance on. Perhaps getting run out of his third franchise and ending up with a team just off the lottery would cause him to see the light and control himself.”

Nah, I don’t think he’ll ever be able to control himself. You just have to live with the technicals, it’s part of the package. But that’s ok, at least the guy cares. Also, the other pieces of the package (including a very reasonable deal with only 2 years remaining) are pretty enticing.

AlJeff is right. The young guys are entering veteran stage (3 years) now with the exception of Green.

   I think wallace’s team-mates like him, and like playing with him. His emotions are out there, and he can’t control himself, but he can play. Billups will create an Orlando/Detroit bidding war, he’ll probably get a 8 MM per year deal for 4-5 years ala Steve Nash.

   GGreen is 2 months older than Corey Brewer. I’ll be curious to see his progress this fall. Lets not write him off too early.

While Billups or Wallace would bring a short term improvement to the C’s neither will put this team in a position to compete even in the (L)eastern conference. Wallace is too much of head case for me to give up both Rondo and Green away for two years of him and his shananigans. Spending 14mil a year for Chauncey is too much especially after his playoff performance and Wyc will never go for it.

mcpu40 said:

“This is ridiculous. NEITHER Rasheed NOR Chauncey will EVER wear Celtic Green. Ever.”

Well, Chauncey already has.

I used to want Billups as a free agent, but he thoroughly sucked in the playoffs and I believe he was the reason they got bounced by Cleveland. Turnovers galore, questionable decisionmaking and poor ballhandling. It’s like he turned himself back into a combo guard. And this in a contract year? I’ve really soured on Chauncy after his stinker series against Cleveland.

mcpu40
  
   Is a fine point a good point or a insignificant point?
My point is, Green is a comtemporary of Brewer, has been performed on the most competitive stage in the world, and we think he’s clueless, despite his ability to score 20 on any given night. What would our opinion of him be if he’d done 2 years at Oklahoma State? Or, what would our opinion of Brewer be if somebody had drafted him 2 years ago. I still think Green can be a hell of an NBA player, and we might be better served drafting another position.

Chauncy was having a Rick Pitino delayed stress reaction and could only heat Little Ricky constantly shouting out meaningless plays and comments from the bench……I have to go vomit now.

Why would we want Rasheed Wallace. He averaged 14/7 in nearly 40 minutes a game in that last round. That’s not worth $17 mill per year.

He totally flaked in that last game—as he will do over and over and over on a team that is anything short of championship level.

He is a player who reacts negatively to the slightest hardship or challenge. When things were going great for Detroit, he was able to control himself. But as soon as the going gets tough, he cracks, he becomes a complete idiot, crybaby, loon. He does more harm than good.

Remember him in Portland? He was a pariah, a continual distraction. His teammates may like him, but that’s not necessarily a good thing. Did Michael Jordan’s teammates LIKE hime? Or respect him and kind of fear him? I prefer the latter. Guys who demand the best from their teammates. Not guys who are likeable in the locker room and flakes on the court.

Um…shouldn’t Pierce be working out in Waltham with the team, and not the other way around? I applaud Jefferson, but Pierce should be in Waltham, too. It’s not just Jefferson he’ll be playing with.

Moskqq, I think Brewer measured out at 6-7 1/2. I like his D but I don’t trust his offense at #5. Jeff Green’s probably a better all around player for #5 if you go this route though I would love to see us take Julian Wright. I think Danny may take Conley using Yi as a smoke screen assuming all the other bigs are gone.

Cousin It said:

“Why would we want Rasheed Wallace. He averaged 14/7 in nearly 40 minutes a game in that last round. That’s not worth $17 mill per year.”

True, but he only makes 13 million a year. That’s a just a bit more than Wally. http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/detroit.htm

His bad playoff series (and his blowup in game 6) are the only reasons you can get him in the first place, because he’s a 7 footer and a good player.

I realize that Grousbeck would like every guy on the roster to be Little Lord Fauntleroy (and frankly, so would I) but sometimes you have to compromise in this life.

Brewer and Green maybe seperated by 2 months at birth but they are polar opposites as players. Brewer is a smart player who can defend and rebound, while gerald does none of that but clearly has the talent to score plus do all the things that brewer does. Maybe if we draft brewer they can rub off on each other and we will have to all-star level talents at the wing.

Sheed a Celtic?! Are we trying to become the JailBlazers?! I don’t care if he does make us better. He is a selfish individual on the floor and is more concerned with being at center stage and drama than his team. Had they won game 6, which he could have possibly helped them come back, he would have been out for game 7. Just to show everyone how wild and crazy he is. That isn’t a Celtic…That’s a Piston…

BTW – Where has Master Po gone?

Its going to be tough to let one of these guys go this summer (in a trade)(west,allen,perk,jefferson) It could disrupt team chemistry more than I thought before. Jefferson seems to be very defensive about any change, even adding a draft pick.

I ate alot of food at dinner and now my stomach hurts.

Draft Brewer…..hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

You dudes are crazy talking about Billups like he’ll be our saving grace. The reason Billups is so good is because he plays for the Detroit Pistons. Throw him on the court with our youngins and Rivers’ coaching and I’d give him 4 weeks before demanding a trade.

I still like:

1) Pierce to Dallas for Josh Howard & Devin Harris
2) Rondo Gomes Green Theo’s Telflaw for Garnett. Use the pick to (hopefully) draft Conley.

and I’d take Brewer with the #5 in option 1)

I watched most of the video clips on Yahoo. Thornton looked good. So did Williams. I thought Noah and Conley looked good. So did Hawes. Mark my words, he will be a good pro. I thought Brewer looked really, really skinny. He needs to bulk up. I think he may be another Stacey Augmon. I think we should stay far, far away from Brandon Wright. I prefer Julian over Brandon. Brandon is very one dimensional player on the offensive end. He is also very think. He reminds me of Tony Battie without a jumpshot. Horford looked strong. Final analysis: dont pick Wright. Pick Conley. Brewer is a flip of the coin. Hawes will be good, especially when he adds some bulk. Hawes has moves like Al, and a nice outside shot. I say pick Yi (because I saw no footage and in my mind I am picturing another Dirk)

why draft conley and trade rondo, keep them both, a running team
needs 3 pgs and then need to hope that no one gets hurt or plays
defense like telfair and dickau
draft conley and tag team him with rondo once conley is ready for the nba

well my brother ran into Pierce at the Hard Rock in Vegas, (and TO too), and said Pierce was looking FAT. So I’m glad he’s going to be working out!

i think i would be happy to trade down with the bulls and pick up ty thomas and their #9 for our #5 and scals. With the #9 we can pick up thornton, noah, green. We will have satisfied our need at big with thomas and get another real good player as well. What do you think?

Yes, we forget that the young guys on the team saw Pierce come in overweight and really never get into top shape all last year. It’s good that they don’t see him as infallible.

I’m with Al who is really becoming the soul for this team. Hold the pick and take the best talent available. We’ll be beter with a #5 in a strong draft and with Danny’s drafting record than with any bloggers’ trade ideas. Rasheed Wallace! Are you on drugs? We don’t want to undue past mistakes by bringing back Chauncy…just keep going forward. Glad to see the C’s removing the “welcome” mat for Chris Wallace. He wasn’t on the right side of very much. Al is the low post option. I like the idea of a Noah balancing off a Perk – neither with l;ow post O but both bringimg a different dimension to the job. That would make the 5 a lot deeper. And, if you were with any team and had a chance to pick up a very young kid who can shoot the 3 and who won the slam dunk contest to boot you’d be ecstatic. So why do you morons keep talking about dangling him for a veteran?

Brick : Sheed is very underrated in my opinion.. he hits the 3 point shot , he can defend man to man and blocks shots and is a very fierce competitor , which leads to technicals being called but hey i can live with that.This team needs some mongrel in it down low and he provides it.

I wasnt that crazy of a fan from Portland but he has converted me 100% during his detroit tenure.

clover said:
  Yes, we forget that the young guys on the team saw Pierce come in overweight and really never get into top shape all last year. It’s good that they don’t see him as infallible.

Pierce was in great shape when he came to camp last year. Remember the sprints where he beat everyone, running backwards at the end. He was out of shape and overweight when he came back from his injury. That can happen when you can’t even walk for an extended period of time, much less work out.

I hate power forwards and centers who shoot 3s.