Feelin' Swift Again

If this goes through, there goes my dream of the hit new reality show “The Robert Swift and Kevin Durant Arm Wrestling Challenge” on FSN Seattle.

He must have the right “brain type”

But seriously why not try to get a project with upside to sub in for perk after 2 fouls.

I have to say, this is a gr8 move! I hope the trade goes through….er.. hold on… u meant Robert Swift?

Sry, I thought u meant Stanley Roberts and Stromile Swift!

Never mind.

- Mk

With all of these combine numbers coming up, Jeff should upload that picture of Swift trying to curl a 10 lbs. dumbell.

I wonder if Telfair and the 32nd could work?

Washinton will offer Spencer Haywood for Swift and Damien Wilkins, most likely. I doubt if Boston can— or should— beat that offer.

Yes I agree, absolutley nothing wrong with with getting a young 7footer with a rookie contract.

As long as the price is right.

I’m assuming we wouldn’t give up the 5 pick for just him right? Please tell me I’m right Danny…

This is like a bad dream all over again. If I have ever wanted a rumor to be untrue, this is the one.

Just the thought of a toothpick sized 7 foot red-headed white boy in a Celtic uniform must be giving Danny wet dreams or something. I don’t get this infatuation. Is Swift a Mormon or something and Danny’s looking to help out one of his own???

Haha good one ek. I think they should pay-per-view it. They can even have Livingston vs. Corey Brewer as the undercard. But seriously there is more talent at the top of the 2nd round than Swift.

Ok, before we knock such a trade, this might be a good time to get reacquainted with Robert Swift, pre-injury:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2003295522_soni09.html

Then there’s this:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/289094_sbok18.html

It seems the guy was on an upward trajectory before he got injured. The big question is… will Robert Swift continue to improve after such a major injury? Given that 7-footers are hard to come by, I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on him if Danny doesn’t give up too much to get him.

This trade works on Real GM’s Trade Checker:

Boston Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Brian Scalabrine
4.0 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.1 apg in 19.0 minutes

Sebastian Telfair
6.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 2.8 apg in 20.3 minutes

Kendrick Perkins
4.5 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 1.3 apg in 21.9 minutes

Incoming

Earl Watson
9.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 5.7 apg in 27.9 minutes

Robert Swift
No games yet played in 2006/07
Change in team outlook: -5.2 ppg, -6.1 rpg, and 0.5 apg.

Beating the offer of Spencer Haywood shouldn’t be too difficult. Bill Russell ought to do the trick. If they want someone younger, Cowens.

this has all the makings of another classic Ainge trade.

Asking the question is just like testing the waters. Could be a prelude to a trade-down with new sights set on Al Thornton or Hawes, a long shot. Could ultimately mean that the Celtics end up having a stable of big studs (Jefferson, Perkins, Hawes and Swift). Not a bad problem to have with #32 being dedicated to acquiring a backup PG to spell Rondo.

Further evidence that, had Swift been available, Al Jefferson would not be in Celtic green today.

halfman/halfoyster,

I believe you’re correct and Telfair for that matter.

But I do like Swift, if you had to give up Gomes and Powe, or TA and Powe I might listen.

…Further evidence that the best move is often he one you don’t make (i.e., trading for Robert Swift).

swift is another injury problem. haven’t we had enough of those. this sounds like trading for telfair, someone danny was enamored with whom he just has to have despite the proven warts.

Spencer Haywood could still beat Brendan Haywood one-on-one. But yes, I meant Brendan.

Agree 100% with D Dub.

Hey look on the bright side everyone..

He hasnt approached Memphis for Stromile Swift again..

I’m sure that Robertt Swift is exaxtly the kind of player who will allay Pierce’s fears about the direction of this franchise.

Is it true that Swift is scheduled to replace Diddy Combs in the latest Proactiv commercial?

Here we go again……criticism of DA without even knowing the particulars of the Celtic’s interest in Swift.

I realize it’s fun to speculate on potential off season moves but to criticize and complain without knowing details is unwarranted and unfair !

mcpu40 said:

“Brick, what a contemporary comment! Nice!”

Well, Proactiv commercials are to NBA TV what Foxwoods commercials are to FSN. If I have to listen to Vanessa Williams say “You have everything to gain and nothing to lose” one more time, I think I will be sick.

At least Vanessa is still hot.
 

Boy that guy is uglier than Larry Bird. He is like Chris Kaman scary ugly. Who told him the tattoos were a good idea? If you look at Swift, he is 22 years old. Last year he was hurt. In his second year out of high school, he averaged 5 points and 4 boards in 20 minutes a game. Compare that to Al Jefferson’s second year where he went for 7 points and 5 boards in 18 minutes a game. Jefferson was more efficient and better but not that much better. It depends on this guy’s health. He is young. He ought to recover from a knee injury. If he does, this could be the time to trade for him. He could be a steal.

If i here the name hawes again I am going to puke.

I would also point out that when healthy and only two years out of high school, Swift put up better numbers than Perkins did last year four years out of high school. It all depends on what the asking price is. If the price is the number 5 pick, no thanks. If the price is this year’s second and say Scal and Telfair to make the salaries work, then yeah. My guess is that the price will be higher than that. I might consider sending them Perkins for this guy. He has better offensive skills and a higher ceiling than Perkins and even if he just puts up what he did in 2006, he gives you better numbers than Perkins did last year.

“Just the thought of a toothpick sized 7 foot red-headed white boy in a Celtic uniform must be giving Danny wet dreams or something. I don’t get this infatuation. Is Swift a Mormon or something and Danny’s looking to help out one of his own???”

Last I heard he was close to 270 with less than 10% body fat. Jeff, that picture is from media day last year.

Swift looks like he has the trailer for the movie “Transformers” tatooed on his arm.

“Just the thought of a toothpick sized 7 foot red-headed white boy in a Celtic uniform must be giving Danny wet dreams or something. I don’t get this infatuation. Is Swift a Mormon or something and Danny’s looking to help out one of his own???”

Excuse me while I start a riot here. What exactly did Perkins do his first two years out of high school that Swift didn’t? You never ripped on Perkins that way. Why does everyone assume that every white guy automatically is a stiff? I think that is what it comes down to. No one has seen this guy play this year and we really don’t know how good he is. But he could be very good since he is so young. Yet, we assume that he is a stiff “a tooth pick whiteboy”, despite as Scotty points out the fact that he weighs 270 with less than 10% body fat. If Danny overpays for him, then that is a legit complaint. But I think it is completly wrong to assume he is no good.

ASK AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE:

"cblake said:

  With all of these combine numbers coming up, Jeff should upload that picture of Swift trying to curl a 10 lbs. dumbell."
 

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Well I am in Seattle and I saw him play towards the end of that second year, and no one will like to hear that Seattle thinks he is that answer. He was going to start last year and folks here think he would have been a 14/8 guy with at least two blocks a game, and keep getting better. If We get him cheap I will fall off my chair, because I bet seattle asks for the pick and I don’t mean the 32nd one. He would probably take Perkins, Telfair, Powe and the 32nd pick. And that might not be enough either, because they might need a future first rounder and West, or somethinmg more like that. This is where you hate me: I would agree to Perkins, the 32nd pick and a future first rounder for him. I think he will become very good

worst tattoo ever

Another stiff….This guys history is Orien Greene and Tony Allen put together….As in He tore is acl/mcl last year because he was driving WASTED and nearly killed himself in a car accident. Thats the only thing i know about him besides Danny being infatuated with him, and we all know how that goes.

“As in He tore is acl/mcl last year because he was driving WASTED and nearly killed himself in a car accident.”

THANK GOD there’s smart people like you to inform the world. Since the truth hurts, here’s the truth. He tore his ACL in a PRESEASON game. The previous summer he got into a car accident where he was not intoxicated. It’s great that you’ve got your facts striaght there cowboy…

“Thats the only thing i know about him besides Danny being infatuated with him, and we all know how that goes.”

The world is smarter for knowing what you think you know….

“I would agree to Perkins, the 32nd pick and a future first rounder for him. I think he will become very good”

I think they turn that offer down. They’d ask for the #5, when you’ve taken as many calls from Danny as they have, wouldn’t you?

Woah there Scotty, sorry to hurt your feelings with me not getting all my facts straight about one of the biggest stiffs in the league, you should beam me up outta here…no need to get your panties in a bunch.

As for his torn ACL, I think its funny that you think they would ask for a #5 pick for a mid-teen draft pick that is damaged goods….Funny way of thinking.

Do I get some kind of commission for having one of my photobucket pictures displayed in a main thread? ;D

If Swift is a stiff, so is was Jefferson going into last year and so is Perkins now.

Big Al and Perk never had torn ACL’s….Last thing we need is a big man with Raef legs, and this has happened to Swift at an early stage of his career…Plus can anybody here name Swift’s strengths BEFORE THE SURGERY?? Highschool numbers don’t count.

The fact that he could average 5 points and 4 boards two year out of high school is a strength. Can you name what strengths Al Jefferson had before last year other than bad ankles? Further, you don’t know anything about Swifts knees. He tore and ACL. Lots of people tear ACLs. That doesn’t automatically make him Raef.

I know he tore an ACL, did you miss the part where i stated it above your response so what more do i need to know about his knees? There’s also a big difference between a sprained ankle, and a torn acl is there not??? Lots of people do tear ACLs, please name all these people who are still effective in the NBA. Why on earth would you trade someone healthy for damaged goods? And i thought Danny ainge had bad judgement….

I’m not taking sides in this, but Swift’s averages before the injury were actually better than what is being stated above, and better then Perk’s.

Over 47 games in 2005-06, his second year in the league (and the last year he played), he averaged 6.4 points and 5.6 boards in 21 minutes. That is NOT bad production for the minutes played at all.

Compare that to 45 points and 5.2 boards for Perk last year—his THIRD year in the league—in 22 minutes per game.

Again, I’m not taking sides because I do like Perk, but anyone who dismisses Swift outright while defending Perk is seeing something that doesn’t bear out in the facts. The “white stiff” was out-producing Perk. PLUS, in the 20 games he started, his averages were about 50% higher, showing that he was able to increase his production when given the opportunity.

I’m just sayin’

oops. 4.5 points

actually, for what its worth, I saw a little of a Seattle vs. the Lakers game with Swift in it where I was expecting nothing out of the guy and came away kind of impressed with him…especially with one sequence where he swatted a shot on one end, which started a fast break, and he ended that same break with a jam at the other end….not trying to dis, but I dont think Ive ever seen Perk do that once…Id trade maybe a Powe, Telfair, and/or a future 2nd rounder to take a chance on him….id only talk about the 5th pick under the influence of crack cocaine…

Im little afraid though because the last time Ainge dealt for one of his infatuations was Telfair….

I actually never said the word stiff, I said a 7 foot toothpick whiteboy. Now, if he’s REALLY 270 and has bulked up, I’ll eat crow. But, if he’s still a toothpick, I don’t want him. A center needs to be able to bang and scare people out of the paint, ala Perk.

“A center needs to be able to bang and scare people out of the paint, ala Perk.”

Really? I don’t remember Kareem or Walton or Parish being scary bangers. All of them were pretty skinny.

No, I’m not comparing an unproven high school kid to any of them—just saying that there have been some mighty fine centers who were on the skinny side and thrived on skill rather than physicality.

And in regards to your earlier statement, I guess it’s the “whiteboy” part I really don’t understand. Besides the grammatical error (there’s no such word), I’m not sure what it has to do with anything.