You Have The Power

thank you i did what i could and i knew i could make it happen

dont trade al for anything short of Lebron,Duncan , and maybe wade or amare(i might still want al over those 2 though

lol sweet heeman picture

theres one in the works if im not mistaken… Coming out in 2009.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427340/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427340/…Try that instead.

I was all against the Al for KG trade too, until I heard a Laker fan talk about trading their young center. He said “As a lakerfan I want Championships not young talent.” Then I kind of sided with him a team of Pierce, Allen, and Jefferson will be good, for about 3-6 year, but Pierce, Allen and KG will be the best team in the East for 2-4 years.

It’s all irrelevant until they stumble upon the “Philadelphia solution.” Too bad we can’t get them to do that.

Boston fans love hope & potential. If Al turns out to be great, good for him and Minnesota. But K.G. is a Hall of Famer already and I want to go for championships now after 21 years. And with K.G.’s body type. He may become the modern day Parish and play at a high level until he is 38-40. Im convinced he will too! So thats a trade we have to make.

Well, Charles Barkley is a hall of famer too. Why don’t we trade Al for him?

What KG has done over his career with the Wolves is irrelevant. What’s relevant is what he gives the Celtics going forward, and for how long.

He won’t sign an extension in Boston. That’s the bottom line.

Ainge should be shot. We’d have a contending title team with Garnett. I don’t see us near title contention with Jefferson.

I think we could become a contender with Jefferson, but not right away. The real question is, can we become a contender with Pierce?

In regard to whether we should have or still could do the KG/Big Al deal:

You had me at “K”.

If we were guaranteed a championship then everyone would have us trade him for KG in a heartbeat. If we were extremely likely to win one with that trade then do it. The problem is, no one wants to mortgage the future for an “also ran” status. KG won’t come close to guaranteeing the finals even. Therefore, keep big AL. Way to put that pressure on people!

What can KG bring to the Celts now?

1) 20 /10 off the bat
2) KG is one of the best defenders for his positions in the NBA, he can still play the “D”. Big Al is sub “D” guy and may never be more than average.
3) Wade, Lebron both say nothing beats the feeling of playing in the NBA final. Let KG sip some of that, and then let’s talk extension. How many times in sports do you see a guy say he’gone and resigns, or says he is resigning and opts out. KG doesn’t know what KG wants next year. Take the risk!
4) Cut the strings to Big Al and let him enjoy his career elsewhere. You keep him and you are looking at rebuilding for the next 5 years after R. Allen and Pierce flame out. We keep Big Al and keep this team the way it is and we are following the same trend of trying to rebuild around him like we have Pierce. Can you say 24W and ping pong balls?
5) Now or never time Danny-boy. Keep going like we are and win 44W this year, salvage your job; or get KG and let’s take a ride in the cash cab.

If KG were that good, the Wolves would have won more than 32 games last year.

Jefferson gives you 20-10 for the next ten years. That’s no big deal. Garnett is a major upgrade defensively, not offensively. But the upgrade would be short-lived.

Without a Garnett trade the Ray Allen trade was/is pointless. Al may very well be a nice player, but Garnett is a HOF. Not only does he bring a legitimate proven force, but with him and Ray Allen, we may actually get the benefit of the doubt from Officials. I am sick and tired of the 20 year rebuilding process and I believe Garnett makes the C’s credible immediately. Al may be good. Al may be Great. Al may have a career of bad ankles and sub-par defense. Take the proven commodity and roll with it. I would really like to watch Basketball after April once again!

Look here, put the kool-aid away and let’s keep it real going into the season. Powe, Baby Davis had their moments. However, Yahoo Sports is reporting the 13 players in the summer league that had to most impact as picked by nba executives and pro- scouts. How many Celts made the list:

Nada!

Rebuild, rebuild, rebuild all you want, but you better compare to you’re trying to get better to what other teams are getting and doing to. On an individual player basis, we didn’t make an impact.

Keep in mind, if we obtained Garnett to play with Pierce and Allen, their best month would be their first one. From there on, it’d be one long and discouraging roll downhill. (Think in terms of that over-the-hill Houston dream team of Olajuwan, Barkley, and Drexler.)

Darn, those little lingering injuries would just keep cropping up. And yet the payroll stayed maxed out. Count me out.

Remember:

1)KG played in the mighty West, as a Celt he plays in JV East.
2) KG never had a Pierce or a R. Allen to play with. Here he’s got both.
3) Keep big Al and we are a 4th/5th seed weak East team. Get Garnett and get the finals this year baby!

• Simply can’t see KG having a nosedive in his career. This guy’s got 4 years left in him and will still be an 18/10 guy. When he’s in his 40s and has a gray beard, he’ll still be a better defender than Big Al. On top of that with Pierce/R. Allen the offensive burden is not what it is in Minny.

I feel like the guy from Geico, this trade is so easy…

For all the wacko rumors that get bandied around, this is the one rumor I wish and pray has some legs.

R. Allen makes absolutely no sense if you don’t make a KG deal. All it does is gives us 44W and saves Danny’s job. I want a banner dang it.

No kidding, must disagree on your assessment. We play in the JV East. Let Doc do all his rotations, etc. Give the Big 3 the chance to slowly blend together and let them coast into the playoffs, the strongest and highest seed.

That’s right, coast at the end of the season, not tanking games but resting up to get it done in the playoffs like the top teams in the NBA do.

They are probably 5 games better with KG than with Jefferson— for a couple of years. After that, it’s a full rebuild.

So, are Grousbeck & Co. in it for the long haul, or have they been lying all along?

I cannot concur Brick. With KG,Pierce, R. Allen, this is a team better than the Pistons last year and a 55W game team.

We can play in the finals this year with KG, not a shred of doubt in my mind. Get me banner 17 and I don’t care about rebuilding. I am ready to be put on the chain gang for the next decade and will happily split rocks while staring at the Banner #17 replica on my wall.

I don’t think that KG, Pierce, Allen, Rondo and a bunch of nothing would be better than the Pistons at all. They wouldn’t be better than Chicago either.

And every time they played Cleveland, LeBron would score 75 points.

Only YOU have the power, to prevent forest fires.

Well, Danny has made trades that helped Detroit and Miami win championships. No reason why he shouldn’t do the same for Minnesota.

Before the Ray Allen trade, I was against a Garnett trade. Now, I’m all in. Go for it. I just CANNOT go along with this 20 year re-building process. If we don’t make the trade and we wallow in the depths of the EAST basement, I will forever llok back at what could have been. And if we make the Garnett trade and don’t win it all, well at least we actually took a shot at it. A strange feeling. One I have not had in 20 years!

Ray Allen is (if healthy) a short-term upgrade for this team. But not the deep playoff contender kind of upgrade some suggest. Trading a decent young combo guard and a #5 pick indicates you are in it for the short haul. Another deal must be in the works – if Danny can find someone to deal with. I have no doubt he would trade Al Jefferson for a KG.

i cant possibly see how you guys could be so ridiculous. KG is slightly better than Al. Its worth having a slightly better player for 2 years (if he chooses not to opt out of his contract) and watching Al, the player we groomed form high school be a beast for the next 10 years? Maybe by then our team will be ready to make another short sighted move like this idea and bring him back for a another 22 year old stud.

we may regret trading away jeff green but big baby will be a nice surprise … the forgotten piece in the ray allen trade

trading big al for anyone 10 years older is str8 silly

Master Po:

After these past 20 years, my tickle me elmo underwear have been twisted every direction, mostly up ……..! I would like to pick my sword up again. It has been lying dormant for 20 years!

doc extension, why are you responding to your own post just to emphasize how good KG is…im not impressed with KG and believe me, Al will be better right off the bat at season’s start than your immortal KG….NO TO KG, he is not better than Al and if you just paid attention in the last quarter of the past season, Al is at par already with your KG and the C’s are even intentionally tanking, Al played Duncan very well in our last game against the defending champs and yes, I firmly think PP, RA and Al are gonna be a trio to beat in the East.

KG is not gonna be much of an upgade from Big AL period, end of story…Im glad KG did not land in Boston and he can stunk wherever he goes but when its all said and done, i hope Big Al has about 2-3 rings to KG’s zilch, zero, nada.

agree with the keep al look to trade pp people. all these years in the woods should produce some home grown talent to nurture and al is it.

What has KG ever done for his team? If you take out the Cassell/Sprewell year, he’s never got beyond the first round. And the case can be made that it was Cassell’s attitude that put them over the top, as he’s always done.

KG may have some remarkable skills, may be a sure fire HOF player, but why give up on jefferson? Everyone loved from the beginning, so lets trade him now that he is what we thought he’d be.

I disagree with the comment earlier that KG is a for sure Hall of Famer. He should sure be a possibility, but come on. What has his team really ever done?! They are way too loose with the criteria for entry into the HOF…

Have you people lost your minds? I can completely understand not wanting to “mortgage the future” for a 2 year rental, fine. But please do not make asinine claims like KG is only “slightly” better than Al. Slightly? KG has been a top 5-7 player in the NBA for most of his career. Al, currently, is injury prone and has had one good half of a season. Kevin Garnett is far better then Al Jefferson will ever be. KG is one of the best defenders in the league and also a fantastic passer. Jefferson has a better post game but nothing else. Shotblocking? Rebounding? Garnett is the best rebounder in the league for Christ’s sake! Garnett is the 2nd most versatile player in the game other than Lebron.

The trio of KG, Allen, and Pierce would be far better then Chicago AND Detroit, especially considering Detroit is a sinking ship. Although, Brick disagrees, but then again, he thinks Rasheed Wallace is better then Paul Pierce. Somehow, he makes the claim that that a team with that trio would give up 75 points to Lebron. Apparently, Kevin Garnett isn’t one of the best defenders in the league or anything. Jeez.

Kevin Garnett isn’t a surefire Hall of Famer? 1 MVP, 6 All Defense 1st Teams, 2 All Defense 2nd teams, 3 All NBA 1st teams, 3 All NBA 2nd Teams, and 2 All NBA 3rd teams. He’s led the league in rebounding for 4 straight years, including last year, even though Brick makes the claim that he’s declining and over the hill. Throw that in with his Greatest Hits. He’s a 10 time All Star, and has averaged 20/11/5 for his career. What more does he have to do to be a Hall of Famer?

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KG may have some remarkable skills, may be a sure fire HOF player, but why give up on jefferson? Everyone loved from the beginning, so lets trade him now that he is what we thought he’d be."

I’m assuming you mean that everybody loved Al from the beginning? This is definitely false. After last year’s summer league, there were many of us, including myself, that were down on him. Similar to this year and Gerald Green. Trading Jefferson would not be giving up on him, but rather cashing in a chip to capitalize on a title run now.

By the power of Greyskull! I am He-man!

CsfanNH

fan opinion ABSOLUTELY has an effect on wyc grousbeck. this loser wants to be a celebrity so bad it’s not even funny. what IS funny though is that within that article gerry callahan proves he knows zero about basketball and the nba saying things like we “might” make the playoffs with garnett. lol. ok .. hahaha. what’s even funnier? yeah..lol.. bostonians are even dumber concerning hoops and DON’T KNOW that gerry callahan has no clue what he’s talking about.i was whining about this for the longest time here and to friends(who could’nt tell you jack about the c’s) that sox and pats fans control the future of the celtics.
   that poll finished at 90% in favor of big al. i have zero doubt that if callahan chose in favor of garnett the results would have been a landslide..in favor of getting garnett. the casual celtic watcher is usually a sox die hard and they have not a clue. they just echo everything the media says. proof of that? how many times have we seen or heard the word RELEVANT the past year? i’m happy as long as the nimrods(most of boston media) keep pushing the opinions i agree with but i really wish they and die hard sox fans would just leave my team alone.they have a great one already.