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Hollinger States Obvious

Hollinger counts the Celtics as one of the teams that helped themselves this offseason.  (ESPN Insider - free preview)

added Ray Allen; lost Wally Szczerbiak and Delonte West)

Long-term, I have grave doubts about whether this was the right move for Boston; as I've mentioned before, unless they're about to use Gerald Green and Theo Ratliff's expiring contract as bait to bring in another star, I hardly see the point of acquiring Allen.

But in the short-term, Allen will be a big upgrade on the Wally/West combo that manned a lot of the shooting guard minutes for Boston last season, and that should be enough to pull the C's out of the cellar in the Atlantic.

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Hollinger pretty much echoes my sentiments about the Allen deal, although I have a higher regard for West, whose value went beyond Hollinger’s numbers.

by Brickowski on Jul 18, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

The bottom line is they have to bring in a top tier big and a decent backup point for this deal to make any sense whatsoever.

Wake me up when that happens…

by lovethecees on Jul 18, 2007 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, boy! Out of the cellar in the Atlantic!

by clover on Jul 18, 2007 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Short term? No brainer, we improved. Long term? No telling until that time comes. If we keep the pick then what? What does Paul do? How does that impact Doc’s status? And a list of other questions.

The fact of the matter is that we don’t know what the outcome is going to be. Keeping the pick would present a new series of “if’s.” As it stands, IF Al, Perk, Green, Tony, and Rondo reach their potential, as well as Gomes, Pruitt and others, then this team will be solid for years.

by amenhotep04 on Jul 18, 2007 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow Hollinger, that’s some real insightful information. :P Thank goodness insider was a free edition, not sure who would’ve paid to read that ;D

by tb727 on Jul 18, 2007 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Great job by Captain Obvious. Even without the trade they would have been improved from last year just assuming a healthy team.

Hollinger must be paid by the word or something.

by Green17 on Jul 18, 2007 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

everytime there is a “free insider” article it is full of info everyone already knows. After reading Hollinger’s article I must have insider I am missing out on so much.

by Cooldude5t5 on Jul 18, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

everyone and their uncle knows that in and of itself, the allen deal is not much unless there is or are other shoe/s to drop. wouldn’t it be absurd/surreal if that’s all there is? maybe even more absurd would be another scal or dickau fiasco. i am sorry to sound bitter- just frustrated.

by nazzbo on Jul 18, 2007 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow ESPN is always first on the sports scene!

by orrzor on Jul 18, 2007 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

by Big_Easy on Jul 18, 2007 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s crazy Dan D get’s his name bleeped out…

by tb727 on Jul 18, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

it seems unwise to judge the Ray Allen trade in a “this season versus last season” sense. Last season we were tanking. Pierce was injured. Wally was injured. Jefferson didn’t play a lot and then suddenly was playing like an all-star.

If RA, PP and AJ stay healthy, then the 07/08 team cannot help but be better than the 2nd worst team in the NBA. The real question is, does this team improve substantially over a theoretical 2006/2007 team that would have featured a healthy Wally and Pierce and AJ playing major minutes all season? That team was probably on track for 35-37 wins. Adding Ray Allen gives you the same indifferent wing defense as Wally but with a few more points a game. AJ playing full-time all season gives you a valid inside presence and consistent rebounding, but also a bad defender who will now be trying to avoid foul-ing as well.

Essentially, these moves have made the team marginally better, maybe into the 37-40 win zone. The real key is going to be Rondo. The common theme of losing Celtic teams vs. winning Celtics teams over the past ten years have been defense and point guard play. We already know this team will play no defense. So if the PG position continues to flounder, you really cannot expect any significant improvement this season.

I firmly believe that Rondo is not a starting point guard as he cannot shoot and is a sub-par playmaker. Furthermore, with two big-time ball-hog types in Pierce and Ray Allen, it is incumbent for a winning Celtics team to have a confident, team leader type at the PG position, making sure everyone gets their touches and that the offense does not get bogged down in Pierce vs. The World.

So yeah, the team will be better. But only a little better than they would have been anyway.

by George Meyer on Jul 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Green17 said:

  Great job by Captain Obvious. Even without the trade they would have been improved from last year just assuming a healthy team.

Hollinger must be paid by the word or something.

Get outta my head, I was gonna say something just like that. ;)

by GreenSun on Jul 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

who even knows if west was going to re-sign with us. we got rid of sczoolander and we don’t need anymore projects. i love when people cry about ray allens ankles like he wasn’t scoring 26ppg before the surgery. he cleaned them up when it was obvious the sonics weren’t going anywhere last season. it’s not like he’s got wally sczerbiaks ankles or anything….

by truthhurts34 on Jul 18, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Ray Allen for West and Wally is a good deal. Put Jeff Green in there and it’s not such a good deal.

by lemonadesky on Jul 18, 2007 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course Hollinger is stating the obvious, what else is there to say? It’s July. Nothing is going on in basketball. But a few lunatics(meaning, well, us) want to read about basketball anyway.

by Cullain on Jul 19, 2007 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

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