Are There Shades of Brown In Green?

Guiness in a bottle? Brilliant!

This article was very well written, but it failed in the most important area- the player’s MINDS…

Kedrick Brown was just happy to be in the NBA, Gerald Green wants to be the best player he can be…that is all the difference in the world, no matter what physical comparisons…(there are differences there too)

I think last year Doc want Green to shot more from the outside, I dont know why Doc would want this. Hoping that Green attacks the rim more often this season.

Baloney. They are two different type of players. Green is so much better; even as a failure! I do not understand why people write these articles. Am I watching a different game or do these wannabe writers just feel a necessity to write, because I gotta say, to me in the middle of summer, a bag of jellybeans has more relevance.

Gerald seems like a nice guy who really wants to be good. Kedrick looked like he never really cared.

But one thing that I noticed with both these guys is that neither seems to be the sharpest tool in the shed. I always wondered if that’s why GG’s stock dropped so much prior to the draft.

There is no way they are similar players. Look at the diffenece in career highs are, Gerald is just a much better scorer. Kedrick was about the same all his years because he was lasy and didn’t work hard. Gerald is working very hard and you can see it if you compare tape. Kedrick dunked hard when no one was on him, but never could finish in traffic Gerald will dunk on peoples head, Gerald is much tougher.

I love how some people think “it’s crzy” or “it’s going overboard” to compare Gerald to Kedrick Brown, but it’s perfectly rational to compare the guy to Tracy McGrady. lol

As a Celtics fan I hope Gerald makes it, but also because he is the only player in the NBA with part of a finger missing. Represent.

The only similarity between the two is the athleticism. Green’s already showing awesome offensive flashes with his inside/outside game, whereas the only thing Kedrick appeared capable of doing was dunk.
Too, Kedrick seemed a more naturally inclined defender, while Green has no clue (yet).
Finally, as mentioned previously Green has all the hunger that Kedrick desperated needed. They both may be dumb as stumps in terms of basketball IQ, but Greem seems desperate to learn.
I hate the notion of waiting around on this kid for four years — his blossoming probably won’t happen this year — but he has an improvement arc that Kedrick would kill for. The mere fact he’s averaging double what Kedrick did should end the conversation right there.
That’s double figures (10 ppg), folks.

gg will be allright , kedrick and jerome were wasted picks
gg has potential but a lot of it is his lack of education
lets face it, h.s. education is lacking these days especially
when bb is your focus and academics is cancer.
will gg be as good as college player like corey brewer, i dont
think so , but that doesnt mean he cant be a good nba player

g$ is no k brown nor is he tmac. he is who he is, a developing pro with physical attributes that outweigh his bb acumen. he needed college. the injuries to others helped him last year because he got some playing time. this year i hope, no injuries, and less time. he has to learn to get focused, play the d he showed in sl, and play within the offense.he does this with the c’s or with some other team.

canman1971, agree with you about making comparisons, but I guess it’s part of the sport. I’m not making a comparison, but GG and KB are and were in different situations. KB was asked to do things he was not good at (shoot three’s). DA thought he could be better utilized, at least until he got some confidence. But the coach makes decisions of what goes on on the court.

I have a question – where is Kedrick Brown these days? I know he’s out of the league but does anyone know what he’s doing?

Bill you hit the nail on the head. The biggest difference between a Kedrick Brown and a Gerald Wallace is desire, and desire is one thing I’m sure Gerald has plenty of. He’s still immature mentaly, he still appears lost at times, and most of his skills remain raw, but I’ve seen improvement from Gerald in every area of weakness (except rebounding, which admittedly is maddening at times), something I NEVER saw from Kedrick, and something that has me convinced that one day, whether it’s 3 years from now or this season, Gerald will be a very good player in this league.

Gerald showed flashes of what he’s capable of offensively in the 4th quarter of the last summer league game. If he continues to drive, look for short jumpers or layups (not dunks) spectacular instead of settling for jumpshots he’ll be a very good offensive player.

Defensively, who knows? We won’t know what anybody is capable of there until we get a coach who cares about that end of the court.

I agree with the impression that Kedrick never looked like he cared much. That definitely can’t be said about Gerald.

I don’t understand people who claim that Kedrick NEVER improved while he was in the NBA – he improved just as much as Gerald has over his first few seasons. The difference is that Kedrick improved his defense, while G$ has improved his offense.

Not saying that G$ will end up like Kedrick. I’m just saying that to say Kedrick was completely lazy, and G$ is a crazy hard worker, is not entirely accurate.

10 points per game in his second year in the league. Oh, BTW he’s 21.

You can poor coaching as another reason GG is slow in developing into a legit NBA player. It appears that he has a low basketball IQ and that is where coaching can help.

Should have read, You can add poor…..

Might be that Gerald’s heart is on his sleave and Kedrick was more laid back. You could see how Gerald acted at the end of losses.

You are right in pointing out that Gerald Green came into the league with a lot of raw talent and athleticism, but very young in both mind and body. To draft someone like that with his potential and then not invest 3 or 4 years in his development would be a practice that will likely lead a team to long-term failure. Gerald will improve on year 2 as he did last year on his rookie year. Because of how raw and young he came in, it would not be a surprise if he didn’t really begin to blossom in year 4 rather than year 3, as Al Jefferson did. But he’ll continue to progress and I think, based on a less superficial analysis of his summer league work made by some observers, there were good signs that his progress will accelerate some in year 3.

There are many things that make his case quite a different case than K. Brown. His attitude and professional habits have been strong from the start and he fits in well with the youthful core and developmental stage of the team as a whole. He’ll contribute even as he learns and develops the rest of his game because of his terrific shooting ability. And if you think about it, there’s almost no way that a player at his age with his outside shooting does not transfer those skills to become a consistent mid-range shooter. Unlike Pitino and company, the current coaching staff relates better to young players and is better geared to develop them. An intangible plus that made Ray Allen even more attractive to Ainge and Doc was his role as Gerald’s mentor/big brother and his veteran teaching/leadership traits in general.

Need I go on to show why we need patience with Gerald Green and why Kedrick Brown is probably not a good case study for judging Green. He’s very likely to blossom into a fine NBA player and maybe more or even a lot more. Suffice it to say that it would be a horror for this Celtics fan to watch Gerald blossom on another team heading toward a championship, and feeling envious of the sizable role he could have played in the Celtic’s aspirations to become a consistent contender.