For Your Consideration

We better act soon if we want to get knight, the nuggets are getting awfully cosy to him…

the only reason Magloire made an all-star team was because at the time the conference he played really lacked in the Center dept. He’s a waste of bench space, time, and money.

I couldve made the all star team in the east back then.. unfortunately i had a bad case of Tinea and pulled out the last second.

I have no interest in any of the players listed.

Anyone who think Darko will only get 5-8 mil is fooling themselves. Promising bigmen who can potentially give you 10-10 are worth 10 mil per year. Look at theo, look at Camby, look at a whole slew of contracts as examples (Dampier). Darko is only 22 and the ‘only’ reason people have ever been down on him is because he was drafted so high. If he had been the 13th pick in the draft nobody would give him grief. His draft day position has followed him for 4 years and that should be water under the bridge. Either way it has no bearing on his current situation, or at least it shouldn’t. The fact is that he is 22 years old and has the abiltiy to produce. He may be the C’s best shot at getting a big man (with youth and experience) to help AL, PP, Allen, and Rondo. I say we make a good offer and sign him.

Brickowski has spoken. Lets shut down this thread.

I think Steve Blake is the single best FA option at PG. He’s a WINNER, he has a shot, he’s a gym rat like all of our young players, and he won’t mind playing back-up minutes.

I dont trust canadians Jeff.. ..

They sound funny.

But I wouldn’t give him the MLE. Half of it, maybe. Scal money.

Darko. He’s a decent defender, can block shots and shoot from outside.

The # of wings available shows why the Allen trade was so foolish. Wings are the easiest position to fill (by far), and now we have over half our cap room tied up in 2 wings on the wrong side of 30. Nice going, Danny.

Jeff,

I would probably offer the min to Grant Hill, but otherwise none of them interest me….

One other thought about future talk….what will or what should we expect from Glen Davis and Gabe Pruitt…. are they diamonds in the rough?

For all intents and purposes, this team will be intact…I can’t forsee Danny making a another big trade or splash…and Kevin Garnett isn’t going anywhere for that matter….

Maybe Gerald Green can show some flashes in the summer league and draw some attention from another team……

But for right now we are pat with our current roster.

Vitaly Potapenko is unrestricted….he has never been the same since he left boston. Maybe now is the time to bring him home. I wonder how much he’ll offer Wyc to come back and play here?

Tommy Pointapenko !

Hell make it happen for that nick name alone.

Joe Smith? No way. Underachiever extraordinaire. Celtics don’t need a schlepper. I like Brevin Knight, but they better have another PG because he’ll be hurt a fair amount of the season. Grant Hill? One player I never expected to see in Celtic green. They need a center more than a PF I think. A lot depends on how Big Baby does. I think he can contribute right away.

What about Scot Pollard? A good rebounder, can play the 4 or 5.

What do people think of Mikki Moore as a FA acquisition?

I like Brevin Knight – at least the nights he’s played against us, he’s looked like a very good fit for the team we’re building. Very smart – a consummate pro. Picks his spots to make big plays, orchestrates the offense.

Rondo seems to play more helter-skelter. Maybe he could learn from BK, maybe not. If the price isn’t too high, I’d be thrilled to see Knight in green.

On the inside, though, we definitely need another player. Haven’t seen Darko play a single minute in the league, so I don’t have an opinion worth jack. My biggest question is – does he have a dependable motor? All the know-it-alls on ESPN and CNNSI seem to say he doesn’t, and if that’s right I don’t like him. Maybe he’d be better motivated if he was on a team that won regularly. And if the Cs were starting Pierce, R. Allen, B. Knight, Al Jefferson and Darko, I think they’d win quite a few games.

Are we trying to remake the Terps? Sign Blake and Smith then fire Doc and hire Gary Williams?

uhmm.. this i what i’m trying to figure out, why do we need grant hill when we already have allen and pierce? is he gonna be our sixth man? if he is our bench is gonna be the best in the nba.

uhmm.. this i what i’m trying to figure out, why do we need grant hill when we already have allen and pierce? is he gonna be our sixth man? if he is our bench is gonna be the best in the nba.two point guards that i would like to see in boston are steve blake and smush parker.

I have played beer pong with Chris Mihm. If he plays center for us as well as he shot ping pong balls into beer cups – he might be a solid man in the rotation to spell Perk.

The # of wings available shows why the Allen trade was so foolish. Wings are the easiest position to fill (by far)

Can’t argue with that at all. But great shooters who are All-Stars … those are not easy to come by.

grant hill a bust? are you mad – his first six years in the league he was a nasty player before joining orlando and blowing out his knee. his career was derailed by injuries – not by a lack of talent or motivation.

I think the idea would be for hill to come off the bench. I don’t know how much you can rely on tony allen until you see him get game minutes – and if we wait till then it will be too late to sign abyone else if we need to.

I am on the darko band wagon, if we could pencil him in for 3yr/27 – 4yr/32 range. give jefferson 5/55. lets lock em up!

Grant Hill a bust. Silliest remark I’ve heard in a long time. Goes back to my thinking that half the people here don’t watch the NBA, they only watch one team.

Anyway, no chance of him coming here. He wants a shot at a ring, and want a nice weather city. Definately not New England. I bet he goes to the Suns.

About Darko, he can stay with Orlando if they trade other pieces to make salary room for him.

What about Derrick Fischer? He was released by the Jazz yesterday to take care of his daughter. Boston has some of the best hospitals in the world. You could probably pick him up for the veteran minimum. Fischer would be a solid backup PG. He is great locker room and character guy. He won three rings with the Lakers and has always been a winner. He would be a great mentor for Rondo. Fischer and Allan would go a long ways toward establishing a winning, professional attitude in the locker room.

It’s a weak free agent class. Blake is either going to Miami (he’s from there, and was a HS teammate of Udonis Haslem) or staying in Denver. Oberto is returning to the Spurs. Rashard Lewis is headed for Orlando. Brevin Knight, as I said yesterday was dumped by Charlotte. Knight himself says it wasn’t about money.

And the desirable RFAs are being heavily courted, e.g. Anderson Varejao.

If Darko really wants 10 million let someone else pay it. Put that 10 million where it belongs, into Jefferson’s extension.

I’m surprised no one noted that Boston was listed by Peter May this morning as one of the teams interested in Grant Hill. But Detroit will offer the full MLE, or some useful young players in a sign and trade for more than the MLE. I suppose the C’s could offer Ratliff, prospects and picks, and sign Hill to a fat deal with only the first year guaranteed. But why would Orlando do that?

I see some trade options. Sebastian Telfair and Alan Ray for Kevin Ollie is one option. That brings in your veteran pg, who played with Ray Allen at UConn and is good friends with him.

The other option is, of course, Camby. Denver fans will well you that they would never trade Camby for Ratliff and a goodie or two, but they are just blowing smoke. The Iverson deal plus KMart’s injury has put Denver into luxury tax hell with no hope of getting past the first round in the Western Conference. It would be stupid NOT to break up that team.

And in two years the Celtics are going to look alot like Denver does today (except that Boston has no Melo) if they continue on their present course.

mcpu40 – never said he wasn’t using a walker – its just hard for me to call him a buist. His first six years in the league were outstanding – then injury after injury.

I didn’t say the C’s should sign him, only that if they did it would be as a backup (earlier post mentioned nowhere for him to play w/ pierce / allen).

Gerald Green will never develop as a Celtic because of Doc. I look for him to be moved before the season starts. Extending Doc killed Green’s and Powe’s chances of developing as Celtics.

Brick,

Denver would have won the east this year had they been in the conference. Looking like Denver does now is not that bad of a deal. Further, once Iverson and Melo get some chemestry next year, Denver should be the fourth best team in the West behind San Antonio, Dallas and Pheonix, which basically means they are the fourth best team in the league.

Please, please, please let Doc’s mention of Hill be only his doing a former player a favor, trying to stir up a market. Otherwise the guy frighteningly fits Danny’s free agent-signing profile.

I love the Brevin Knight move, especially. Exactly the sort of veteran, selfless presence to split time with Rondo and help him along.

Grant Hill doesn’t make any sense, but what about Scott Pollard? Isn’t he exactly the sort of big this team needs?

Mike

It is all about the money. I don’t see getting Hill as a bad chance to take, provided you don’t give him a big contract. Hill for three or four years is terrible. Hill for one year at the Vet minimum is a great chance to take.

Wow, Lewis is off the market already? So much for Ray Allen having some pull. >:(

Denver is not paying the luxury tax. Brick is correct in stating that Camby is as good as gone. It’s not because they want to trade him, but it’s because no one is going to touch Nene’s or K-Marts deal. Owners, save for a handfull, do not pay the luxury tax. Remember that in the NBA, teh luxury tax is two things. It is a dollar for dollar tax for each one over. Plus, paying the luxury tax means you do not recieve a check for a portion of the luxury tax pool that was paid. So you pay, and you loose out on the benefit. Owners, save for the Cuban’s and Dolans of the world, do not pay that.

I’d take a flyer on almost any of the above mentioned players. The C’s need veteran bigs that can provide insurance, and some decent banging down low. For obvious reasons the C’s have to do this on the cheap, with the fewest amount of years of obligation. If a MGloire would come here for half the MLE thinking that he’d get some PT and could profit from it next year, then we have a chance. He is a banger, solid defender, and exactly the type of player we need up front, at exactly the type of $$ we’re looking to pay. If we could pay him half the MLE (near $3 mill), then we could maybe offer the other half to Brevan Knight.

We can hope can’t we?

Green will never be McGrady – totally different skill set. If anything, I like Green’s chances of learning from Ray Allen. Green’s definitely got a good enough stroke, but he’s got to get smarter about where to be on the court, how to get his shot off with limited movement/dribbles, and how to keep defenses honest by going to the hoop every once in a while without being wild. I think Gerald benefits from Allen’s arrival more than anyone.

As for free agents, I like Darko but we can’t afford him. He’ll get 10 mil somewhere. I like Magloire. He’s what Perk could be if he ever figured out how to stay on the floor. Between the two of them, I think we’d be okay. Our most desparate need is point guard though. We need a veteran because I don’t trust Rondo to be that consistent. Knight would be ideal if we could afford him and a Magloire-type under the MLE.

mcpu40 said:
  If GG could add 15 lbs., he’d be McGrady in two years.

It’s not about weight. They play differently. GG doesn’t have McGrady’s handle, court vision, nor slashing capability. Don’t forget, McGrady played point guard at times for Toronto. I think Gerald’s a better pure shooter that McGrady, though not by much. He’ll make a living coming off screens when he figures NBA defenses out. Gerald has also shown that he can post up a little bit. With his hops and high release, his turn-around should become a staple. I think Gerald will be quite a player, but a totally different kind of player than McGrady. And also not as good. But that’s no knock on Gerald. It’s just that McGrady, when healthy, is as good as there is in the whole NBA.

In regards to the Luxury Tax issue, I was under the impression that teams over the luxury tax paid money to the teams under the luxury tax. So teams in limbo between the 2 actually don’t receive money from the NBA (how this played out with the Bobcats who were given a smaller salary cap than other teams until this I’m not sure about). Can anyone confirm or deny this?

As to free agents Darko is going to get more than the MLE which means we won’t be getting him. We could probably get Knight for 2-3 mil a season for 2 or 3 years which I wouldn’t be opposed to. I’m not crazy about Hill but if he wants to play for us at the Vet minimum I see no reason for us not to take him at that price (although with our luck he will manage to hurt himself at the exact same time that pierce or allen hurts themself). All those other bigmen Jeff listed strike me as stiff’s. I’d rather take my chances with Powe and Big Baby than a couple guys who are perennial underachievers even during a contract year.

Sorry I meant to say teams under the salary cap, my bad.

Brick’s mention of Kevin Ollie has some merit. We need a veteran PG who is a true distributor, not a shooting guard who occasionally passes (Atkins, Mo Williams, etc.). Knight and Blake are the two main targets who will get a lot of attention.

UConn alumnus Jake Voskuhl opted out of his contract with Charlotte, which would have paid him around $2 mil. He’s now an unrestricted FA, and could be had for Scalabrine money (half the MLE). Defensive-minded, mobile, and a hard worker.

Daniels & Thomas from Washington? Ugh.

$13M for 3 more years to two mediocre veterans. No thanks.

Jake Voskuhl? Oh great, he’ll put them right over the top.

There is no such thing as “luxury tax limbo.” Either you are over the threshhold and a tax payor, or under it. The threshhold for 2006-2007 was 65.42 million. For 2007-2008 it is expected to be around 67 million. It is computed based on a percentage of “BRI” (basketball related income), which the league’s accountants have between now and July 11 to compute.

Are people really interested in guys like Jake Voskuhl? Ya he has size and a little bit of skill, but the Celtics need a big man that will make a legitimate impact on BOTH ENDS.

“What do people think of Mikki Moore as a FA acquisition?”

Two words: hell no

Consider what we have to work with. If we expect to use Ratliff to land a big-contract player who’ll demand playing time/touches, then you have to judiciously use the MLE to fill in the holes and get glue guys to round out the roster.

Do I expect Voskuhl to play 30 minutes a game as our starting center? Hell no. But he’s the type of veteran player a team needs if it expects to advance in the playoffs. This team needs another big in case/when Perkins’ fasciitis flares up and Powe and Davis struggle with foul trouble.

P.S. There is no FA big man available with the MLE “that will make a legitimate impact on BOTH ENDS.” Not a single one. That kind of player can only be acquired through a sign-and-trade. Again, the MLE should be used to get a veteran PG and/or big man to shore up the team’s two weakest and least experienced positions.

They need a wing degfender more than they need a point guard. But the fact that, after the Ray Allen trade, they still have so many unfilled needs, underscores the fact that it was a desperation move.

“They need a wing degfender more than they need a point guard. But the fact that, after the Ray Allen trade, they still have so many unfilled needs, underscores the fact that it was a desperation move.”

It really wasn’t. It’s not like Wally Sczerbiak and Delonte West would fill our need for a wing defender. We didn’t give up anything of substance to get Ray Allen.

“They need a wing degfender more than they need a point guard. But the fact that, after the Ray Allen trade, they still have so many unfilled needs, underscores the fact that it was a desperation move.”

To say it nicely, you honestly have no idea how good a player Ray Allen is.

Doc said he was expecting Ratliff to play this year. If he can last more than a week without going down again he CAN help this team. If you go into a season with Perk as your starting center, you have a giant donut hole the middle — my opinion only. He’s Greg Kite with a little more athletic ability and a lot less smarts.

They absolutely need a veteran to back up Rondo – preferably one who can make an open jumper since I’m already having nightmares about opponents daring him to make a wide open 18 footer with the game on the line. I would take Brevin Knight in that role.

ucn33 said:

“To say it nicely, you honestly have no idea how good a player Ray Allen is.”

Sure I do. I’ve been watching him for years. So how many games did Seattle win last year before the shut Ray down?

Ray is a very good player who is not a good fit for this team. Sure they’ll be better. They’ll go from 24 wins to 35-40 wins. Does that make you happy?

Not sure who on the free agent market would be useful. We can’t afford Darko, he’s an unrestricted free agent now, so some team under the cap will get him. I hate to agree with the Wages of Wins guy(since he’s about twice as arrogant as ESPN’s John Hollinger, and half as smart), but Jamall Magloire is DONE. Mihm might not actually be a bad pickup, but i don’t like his chances of a full recovery.

Jeff said:

“by the way part 2 – Golden St. can offer a much better sign-and-trade package than we can because they have a $10M trade exception to use – so any team looking to sign and trade a star player, can take zero salary back and pick up draft picks in the process”

Only if the “star” makes less than ten million, because the trade exception cannot be combined with other exceptions. It can be sliced up to acquire multiple players making less than 10 million in the aggregate, but it cannot be used to acquire a player making more than ten million.

So, to continue my thought, the trade exception doesn’t really help GS to acquire Garnett. They would have to match Garnett’s 20 million within 25% without using the exception.

“Come on Brick, give the C’s (and Allen) a little more credit.
As currently constituted, this team can go .500 or better…IMEO”

As currently constituted this team is TERRIBLE defensively and will lose a ton of games because they won’t be able to stop teams in the 4th. Losing Delonte doesn’t help things in that department either. The only decent defender they have in their rotation right now is Rondo, unless you count Pierce. Gomes being undersized when he’s playing the 4 doesn’t help either. Danny’s got a lot more work to do to get this outfit over .500.

mcpu40 said:
  If GG could add 15 lbs., he’d be McGrady in two years.

And I’d bet he does…add that weight that is, over the next 2 seasons.

Good one. GG is completely overated. Prime example of someone who could have benefited from 2 – 3 years in college. If Pruitt proves decent and Allen can come back somewhat healthy, we have no need for GG. I’d rather see Gomes play behind Pierce at the SF spot anyway. Trade him now while he has some value. A year from now he’ll be considered a bust.

While I have absolutely NO INTEREST in Grant Hill, to call him a bust or say he fell short of hype in any way is ludicrous.

From 1995-97, he WAS the Duane Wade/Kobe/Labron of the league. He average more than 20 points, almost 10 rebounds AND about 7 assists a game. If you ever actually SAW him play, you would have been amazed at least a few times on a nightly basis. He dominated and did everything well. He was explosive athletically but tremendously skilled, especially as a passer/playmaker. The guy was a walking triple double. And he single-handedly carried horrible teams into the playoffs.

Name one other player in the last 20 years who has averaged more than 20 points, 9 boards and 7 assists in a season.

I don’t want that last part to get lost, so I’ll repeat:

Name one other player in the last 20 years who has averaged more than 20 points, 9 boards and 7 assists in a season.

Jeff, it doesn’t matter whether or not it is a sign and trade. The exception cannot be used for a player making over 10 million under any circumstances. You could not, for example, use the 10 million dollar exception plys a 5 million-dollar player to acquire a 15 million dollar player in a sign-and-trade or any other kind of trade.

So if they want to use the exception to acquire, say, Chauncey Billups, Chauncey would have to agree to a first year’s salary of less than 10 million as part of his new deal.

Let me add that in a sign and trade, the deal can be one year longer, and the raises can be 12.5% instead of 10%, sicne it is the player’s own team that is signing the player. So yes, the player’s salary can go up a bit faster, but the first year still has to be under 10 million.

Brick,

By “limbo” I was referring to the teams in the NBA who are above the salary cap but below the luxury tax limit. My point was that I don’t believe teams in this range actually receive revenue from teams over the luxury tax limit.

Cousin It,

I’d guess J. Kidd and I agree that Grant Hill was certainly a special player during his prime.

Jeff said:

“think we’re saying the same thing Brick.”

Perhaps so.

Byrdman said:

“By "limbo” I was referring to the teams in the NBA who are above the salary cap but below the luxury tax limit. My point was that I don’t believe teams in this range actually receive revenue from teams over the luxury tax limit."

Yes they do. All teams under the luxury tax threshhold receive a payment equal to one thirtieth of the luxury tax revenue, less certain deductions for league expenses. It doesn’t matter whether or not these teams are over the cap. See Larry Coon’s FAQ on the NBA collective bargaining agreement, #16 and #17.

All but two teams, Charlotte and Atlanta, were under the cap last year. Do you think the system would permit these few under-the-cap teams to get all of the luxury tax money while the other teams got nothing?

I wasn’t sure, that’s why I posed it as a question the first time I brought it up. Thank you for resolving the issue.

Well if we signed him maybe he wouldn’t have blown out his knee or whatever he did to effectively ended his career. Then we would be hearing from you on how great a player he was even though him and Pierce could only muster a 30 win season for the celts with Doc at the helm. ;)

"I am counting on Tony Allen coming back strong…
…he’ll be out there in the 4th quarters when the green are behind…

I also think that Leon Powe can be a good defender.
Not to mention Pierce, Jefferson, Gomes, and Perk down low (after an off season of efforts).
This team should definitely be above .500 next year."

I left Allen out, but you’re drinking Wyc’s Kool Aid. Powe won’t be on the court with the game on the line. Gomes is undersized, Perk can’t defend without fouling and Al can’t guard Clifford Ray.

And I’m talking about when you have a lead and have to hold onto it. Allen may be out there, but who sits — Pierce or R. Allen? And if T. Allen is out there with those two, welcome to Small Ball again with PP at the 4.

This team team — as currently constituted —has a chance to be the worst defensive team ever in the NBA.

mcpu40,

I appreciate your optimism, I hope the celtics have a great year as well and my comment was made in jest so don’t take it too harshly. However, I would like to point out that if you consider Grant Hill a bust than you should probably consider Doc rivers a bust as a coach. He started out well and won coach of the year, since then his win/loss record has taken a nose dive. It’s pretty clear he has issues setting lineups and keeping consistent rotations even when the celtics were halfway decent (see the Indiana playoff series). I’d like to be proven wrong for the sake of C’s but I just don’t see him leading us to the promised land. Just my opinion though.

Also I’m not sure why your so suprised that a coach who has led his team from 42 wins to 35 wins to 23 wins would be disliked by the diehard fan base. Seems fairly understandable.

mcpu40,
Other than the fact that Doc trashes his players in the press, gets outcoached in every facet of practically every game, will use the youth excuse until his players are collecting social security, has no professional defensive sets, has no continuity with rotations, his players make the same mental errors game after game after game, and the fact that a person can’t tell when he’s tanking or trying to win, there’s lots to love about Doc Rivers, the coach.

It will make very little difference who is on the roster until the weakest link is addressed and replaced.

mcpu40,

Just to clarify: I completely agree with you that G. Hill has been useless for the past 6 seasons.

But that doesn’t discount the fact that he was among the top 5 players in the league for at least 3 of his first 6 seasons. And he was only the third pick in the draft. I think he lived up to or exceeded any hype.

“Oh come on Kuberski.”

I’ll stand by what I said. They were in a lot of games last year — till the 4th quarter when it came time to actually stop someone when it counted and this team simply couldn’t do it. If they go into the season with the roster as is today, it will be more of the same, save for the dozen more games they win because Pierce and R. Allen are around and they’ll be able to simply outscore some teams on given nights.

But defensively they’re beyond terrible — not to mention undersized with a complete inability to defend the pick & roll.

They’ll be a lottery team till they do something about that.

Um, when is Chris Anderson’s suspension over? Has anyone heard anything about that kid since he got booted out of the league? I miss the birdman, myself

Brevin Knight. Then leave it alone. Perk and Big Al will gobble up almost all the minutes. I then sign Kandi to ride the pine and come in occasionally to fill in with Powe helping out as well. None of these free agents are better than that. I do like the possibility of a Derek Fisher if Boston ends up the best place for his little girl. That should be his decision though and not the team. Class act by the Jazz.

Chauncey signed a 5 year extension with the Pistons.

ucn33 said:

“Chauncey signed a 5 year extension with the Pistons.”

As expected.

Finally, no more idiotic threads suggesting Chauncey would consider playing in Boston for the MLE.

If there’s one thing that can be said for the NEGATIVE bloggers on this board it’s that they remain consistent even in the face of contradiction. How so?

They decry the trade for Ray Allen because we could have had a promising rookie instead. Knowing and agreeing that the available rookie players need a few years to develop their game they remain steadfast in their opinion.

Yet when it comes to the youth on this team they trash the thought that our own players can show year to year improvement. They consistently point to last year as though there were no window for our youth to improve. Yup! The grass always looks greener when you lust for players on other teams or when you desire yet more rookies instead of proven vets.

It’s a situation where management is damned if they do and damned if they don’t make moves. If the NEGATIVE bloggers would reflect on their faulted logic perhaps we might get a more even-handed assessment of the Celtic’s chances for the coming year. Recall guys, that today’s NBA stars took years to become stars so a little patience on your part is overdue!

In all fairness even the POSITIVE bloggers (as well as management) recognize that we need size and a better defensive team. Take small steps….

Kuberski – Your overdramatic comment has a chance to be the worst comment ever on CelticsBlog… Stand by what you said. Why not?! No one knows you so you don’t have to be embarassed to write an idiotic comment. Just don’t think that anyone will take you seriously going forward… All the teams in the history of the league and we have a chance to be one of the worst in history?! Perk by himself takes us off that list. Enough spew about the’r “inability to gaurd the pick and roll”. The Bulls couldn’t guard the Jazz’s pick and roll in the finals (Along with anyone else in that era) but seemed to do a pretty good job hoisting trophies. If executed properly the pick and roll really isn’t defendable. You try and make it difficult but it is not really defendable. That is why it is still a staple after all these years. Never played ball Kuberski?!

Granted, wasn’t the Seattle defence from 2 years ago (with Ray Allen) supposed to be the worst of all time, at least in terms of defensive efficiency?

The difference is that Ray is probably our worst defender – and in Seattle, he was one of their best….

Since we don’t have outstanding individual defenders (with minor execption) it doesn’t necessarily mean that we have a poor defense. Basketball has always been a TEAM sport and the whole is usually better than the individual parts.

When we played in the Olympics, although we had more athleticism and theoretically better individual talent, we were embarrassed by lesser teams playing TEAM offense/defense.

We can be an effective defensive team if we play better TEAM defense. To do that we must play smart and that requires that we become well versed in basketball FUNDAMENTALS.

We still need better coaching and we now have a vacancy where that shortcoming can be addressed. Before we focus too much on who we can get to complete our roster, we need to do some home repairs “to make ready the path”!

BREVIN KNIGHT has always been on the celtics radar. He was the first point guard i thought of that was available to back up Rondo. His speed and steals are always top notch.Would be a great pick up.

Kind of hard not to be negative when you’ve gone through 3-4 years with Danny and we’re officially the second-worst team in the league, and he trades away his highest ever draft pick for a 32-year-old gunner (95th best in 3FG%?) coming off dual ankle surgery.
I’m hoping Ainge follows this up with two solid moves (Ratliff’s contract, the MLE), but untill then, negativity seems a logical choice to me.

You know what sucks more than negativity? A “love what Ainge has done or stop being a fan” attitude.

Those of us who’ve been fans our whole lives have every right to criticize what we see as bad moves.

Sorry if we can’t brainwash ourselves into believing a trade for a 32-y.o. shooter coming off double ankle surgery is the best outcome of 4 years of wrangling and promises.

Brickowski Says: "I see some trade options. Sebastian Telfair and Alan Ray for Kevin Ollie is one option. That brings in your veteran pg, who played with Ray Allen at UConn and is good friends with him.

Is your next addition Donnie Marshall since he is a Conn grad? Kevin Ollie is totally fringe and we need a better quality backup PG in my opinion.