Pierce Weighs In
Lots of great stuff in this article by Shira Springer catching up with Paul Pierce. Thought I'd highlight the weight issue.
If all goes as planned, Pierce will start the season at close to his college playing weight of 230 pounds in an effort to improve his quickness and ability to guard players at different positions.
‘‘The last couple years, I played at 240, 245, but I think I’m going to go back down to my college weight and play at 230,’’ he said. ‘‘I’m at, like, 238 now. Playing at 240 or 245 is not bad, but I want to come in lighter and faster.
‘‘I’m focusing on my defense, being able to guard all three positions. The stuff I think about is if I have to go to shooting guard and defend and take pressure off Ray [Allen]. I don’t need that much extra weight. I just want the footwork and quickness to guard shooting guards.’’
He is also going to be headed to Boston early this summer to start working out with and hanging out with KG and Ray Allen.
I think he sees an opportunity to be a leader and this is his style. I'll get into this in more detail later, but I see Paul's leadership style as one who likes to be one of the guys and shows extra attention and effort where it is needed. KG is the emotional powerhouse and Ray Allen is the quiet, confiedent one, but Paul has his place in this leadership team. He's rolling out the red carpet, and that's a pretty good start.
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It’s still his team. Even if he’s no longer the best player on it.
by T1ME on Aug 13, 2007 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
Jeff, side note, but Big Al is still in the banner. This makes me sad :’(
by BassyBoston on Aug 13, 2007 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
I’ve said repeatedly that Pierce has been too fat since 2002. I’m glad he knows it, and I wish he would lose 5 more pounds.
If he played at 225 and if Rivers kept his minutes down to 30-35 he could return to the greatness he displayed in 2002 and 2003.
Why is that finding shadows on the surface of the sun?
This is tremendous news. A quicker more agile Pierce will be great for the team. Look at how dropping the ol elbees helped Big Al last year. Plus, Pierce is less likely to get injured when playing at a lighter weight. He shouldn’t have any issues with that stress fracture
That picture of Rondo, Pierce, and Al has gotta go. For one thing the background is only partially removed, and for another Big Al is now a timberwolf.
by FrieCod on Aug 13, 2007 8:59 PM EDT reply actions
He is also going to be headed to Boston early this summer
????? Labor day is fast approaching.
Defense is the key to playoff success.
Paul is very capable, if he will stick with his man on the perimeter,leaving the middle to Garnett and Perkins it will make a big difference.
No more career games for he likes of Mo Peterson,I presume.
Tom Thibideau will be very happy to read this and if it’s more than lip service,it’s another welcome chapter in the transformation of this team.
by JB_Celticsstuff on Aug 13, 2007 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
Just as I had stated earlier Pierce will be in better shape and get his weight down. Good work Paul. the right attitude will lead to the right altitude. We are off and running toward Banner # 17.
by Freeease1 on Aug 13, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
Brick, you must have some idea of what I’m talking about. You can’t be that self-unaware.
This is news that Pierce is going to be more committed to getting his weight down, something you have now said was your hope for a long time. You should be happy about this. This is good news.
However, instead of expressing any kind of satisfaction, your only comment indicates that it is too little and likely too late. Yet another reason to despair in a world of darkness. Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but that’s the gist I get.
Again, I’m not trying to call you out, I just think that you have to expect people to be a little mystified by your continual negative comments. (Likewise, I’m sure many could accuse me of being overly optimistic – we all have our leanings – no big deal)
I posted about a week or so ago that Pierce needed to drop about 15 pounds, and wow, here he is dropping 15.
I’ve posted for months for Danny to get a defensive assistant coach, and wow, we got Tom T.
Okay Danny, put me on the payroll!
by docextension on Aug 13, 2007 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
Its the same old story
Everywhere I go,
I get slandered,
Libeled,
I hear words I never heard
In the bible
And Im on step ahead of the shoe shine
Two steps away from the county line
Just trying to keep my customers satisfied,
Satisfied.
Go Celtics
by docextension on Aug 13, 2007 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
230 is fine for Pierce. He gets pounded a lot and needs to be strong enough to take it. Any lighter is pushing it. I’d say 35-37 minutes per game would be ideal for him. He’s not an oldtimer just yet – 30-35 mpg just isn’t going to cut it. Especially if he’s in the shape he says he’s going to be in.
Weight is a very pliable thing… at 6’7" 230 is quite lean… 240 is not that bad anyways. I’m only 5’11" and was 210 – 9.5% body fat last time I had it checked. I figure most NBA players are ideally 5-15% body fat; the thing is that if done properly you can get heavier and leaner, which would make you stronger and quicker.
Weight is sort of like ERA for pitchers its an okay measurement, but not that precise of one if you have better ones.
im definitely glad pauls making the right steps to get the trio in here early and just get used to each other on and off the court. smart move. also agree that he has also obviously gained some weight the last few years and he needs to get his weight down as well. but i actually agree with brickowski here that id like to see him under 230 and down to 225 again. back when he was more athletic he and antoine used to run those backdoor alley-oops all the time. paul needs to get back to that.
by bucknersrevenge on Aug 13, 2007 11:31 PM EDT reply actions
I think I heard a collective shudder from around the NBA, because the Celtics just acquired a 25 ppg defensive stopper. We just became a lot more like the Mavs/Spurs:
Ultrafast Point Guard; Check
Offensive-Minded Two Guard; Check
Defensive-Minded small Forward; Check
All-Universe Power Forward; Check
Three Headed Monster in the Middle; Pending
by Michael Anthony on Aug 14, 2007 5:40 AM EDT reply actions
As to PP’s weight it sounds to me like he made a conscious decision to play at a certain weight based on the type of game he would need to play. I don’t call that being out of shape. He would have been out of shape if it was thought his best weight was 245 and he was 270. Now he sees his role changing, with the need to play more defense and he’s adjusting accordingly. PP has never come to camp out of shape.
Pierce was never and WILL never be a good leader! end of story. Someone else better take that role cause he sure as hell isn’t fit for it. a leader doesn’t sell out his teamates or demand trades to the media if he doesn’t get his way!
by AdrianoMG6 on Aug 14, 2007 8:06 AM EDT reply actions
AdrianoMG6, To my knowledge PP didn’t go to the media to demand a trade. In interviews he said he thought about it and he probably talked about it with management. I also don’t think he sold out his teammates by saying the team needed more vets. Even some people on this blog said that. Management said it and some experts from the media said it. Some also suggested PP be traded for younger players. It will be interesting to watch Seattle,Portland and the Wolves this year. I would be interested in hearing about this from his teammates (as to whether or not they felt that PP sold them out) as opposed to us assuming such things.
Edgar has not been following this team for the past 10 years lol. people don’t change who they are overnight
by AdrianoMG6 on Aug 14, 2007 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
Exactly Jeff! Disclaimer aside, that is about as close to calling someone out as I think you’ll do. I was starting to wonder if I was reading more into these comments than I should. But when our truly unbiased moderator starts commenting on the continual negativity, then Brick you really ought to take a closer look at yourself and wonder if it could be YOU and not everyone else! If you won the powerball lottery you’d stand up there on stage and whine that the lottery wasn’t paying the taxes for you. Must be miserable to be that down on everything.
That is great news showing PP’s extra steps towards making this year great. What a great example to the rest of the squad to show them what he expects of them. Guaranteed Perk is increasing his load at this very moment to show PP that he got the message. Hopefully the rest will as well.
Adriano, I have followed Pierce’s entire career. he stuck with a horrible team at a time when other players like Vince Carter demanded trades and screwed their franchise’s over. Pierce weathered the storm, and never publicly asked to be traded, didn’t refuse to report to training camp, never skipped practices, etc. Lay off the guy. I think that there would be more of an issue if he was content with his team winning just 15 games a season; any competitor wants to have at least some talent around him. In my eyes, Pierce has been nothing but an upstanding citizen here in Boston.
RIPRED, well said. I think Wyc’s story at THE press conference about PP when he had his teeth knock out said it all. I saw that play, Amare Stoudamire got him in the face at the end of a play. Of course, no foul was called. I was thinking besides teeth, concussion, broken facial bones, bad stuff. But his return to the game didn’t surprise me. He’s always played hurt. Sort of Bird-like.
You know what it is said about not liking what’s on a particular channel – change it to something else. No one’s forcing folks to read Brick’s, mine or anyone else’s comments. But I suppose calling someone out or getting personal is acceptable depending upon who you are.
As for my outlook, I’m happy to see the Celtics have a good chance at becoming respectable this season. However, I was (and still am) against the direction they took, starting with the Ray Allen trade. I believe they were ready to turn the corner with the youth movement and adding a Corey Brewer, for example, would have been the best option. I think it would have been worth the wait of another couple of years to see what the team would become as the players matured.
It’s hard to be continually sunny-side-up when you feel the last two trades (make it the last three) shouldn’t have been made. It’s hard to jump on the bandwagon when you honestly don’t feel the Celtics are championship material for reasons that I’ve detailed in several posts. Where others see the C’s in the finals, I see reasons why they won’t win the Atlantic, none of which have to do with the age of the three stars or possible injuries.
It’s like this website has taken on a whole different flavor since the Garnett deal. So many folks now have stars in their eyes, the attitude is becoming an either you’re with us or agin’ us sort of feeling.
Anyway, regarding Paul Pierce’s weight-loss program, yes he should have done that a couple of years ago. I think it’s wonderful he’s going to be in shape this year. For $20 million, he should be.
by lemonadesky on Aug 14, 2007 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
































