The Pink Hat Brigade
Kevin Henkin of Full Court Press has a very funny take on the bandwaggon fans that will be flocking to the TD this year.
Let’s face it. As Celtics fans, we’ve been spoiled this summer. Our team is on the map again and it’s been downright giddifying to watch the complete roster overhaul unfold before our very eyes. Instead of idle speculation on whether this is the year "the kids" realize their collective potential, we’ve elevated the debate to exactly how far this new team can roll in the playoffs. This is all good news, right? On the most obvious level, of course it is. Then again, there are some minor downsides to success. I present to you, as Exhibit A, the pending arrival of The Pink Hat Brigade.
He then proceeds to break down these fans into their own categories:
- The Crusty Historians
- The Actual Pink Hatters
- The Shameless Frontrunners
- The Gregarious Sales Hosts
I think that if you were on this site before lets say May (ie. before the lottery), then you are probably safely out of any of these categories. If you haven't thought of the Celtics in years and just found this site because you did a google search on Celtics and Kevin Garnett, then you might just be one of the above.
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Some of them are legitimate new fans. You know it happens-new fans :-\.
But the worst ones are those that join in because they believe the team is headed for greatness and for no other reason. I wish there was a way to exclude these people.
by boblem on Aug 16, 2007 5:34 AM EDT reply actions
Oh god – I’m on the verge of being a “Crusty Historian”!!
I remember when waving a towel…….
by SShoreFan on Aug 16, 2007 6:03 AM EDT reply actions
I joined this site in May, before the lottery, but had been supporting the Celtics long before.
Anyway, as one other poster stated on another thread.
‘Some of us are new to the site but are not new to the Celtics’
That was in response to some crazy comment about how people weren’t ‘true’ fans, if they hadn’t posted over 100 times on this blog.
I think that quote nails it.
by UK Celtic on Aug 16, 2007 6:16 AM EDT reply actions
But the worst ones are those that join in because they believe the team is headed for greatness and for no other reason. I wish there was a way to exclude these people.
Call me crazy, but I’d much rather have pink hats and front runners than no hats and empty seats. Pink hats and front runners cheer and add excitement – empty seats can not. Besides, those who wear the pink hats are usually much better looking than us “Crusty Historians”
The ship is big enough for all of us!
by SShoreFan on Aug 16, 2007 6:37 AM EDT reply actions
I think it is a rule if you post on CelticsBlog you can’t be a “Crusty Historian.” I actually ran into a “Crusty Historian” the other day. He spent most of his time bragging about his new season tickets in the lower bowl, where I am lucky enough to afford the balcony. Besides the new Big Three, he couldn’t even name anyone else on the team!
All the more reason to STAY home and watch it on a brand new HDTV.
What’s SAD is that this article is VERY true…all of it.
The bandwagoners, the pink hats, the shameless frontrunners, the gregarious sales hosts, even the crusty historians…they’ll ALL be there in full force pretending they were there the whole time.
It’s ALL going to happen.
I, like many posters on this board, am one which watched every game ‘during the 18 game losing streak, desperately trying to glean signs of hope and progress in your core of young players…’
I’ve noticed that since the signing of Ray Allen and even more so after KG came on board, that this very BLOG, has TONS OF NEW usernames appearing…
Jeff, and count on just HOW MANY since KG came? I’d be it’s a lot.
With success comes the bandwagon fans. In a weird way, we should be happy that these fans now exist. Almost everyone on this site has been driving the bus for years and now we finally have some stops to make.
I think it’s great that the stadium will almost always be sold out and if I can’t make it to a game, I know I can get some good money for my tix instead of GIVING them away. Plus, if there’s extra eye candy rockin’ there female cut Pierce, Allen and Garnett jerseys, I’m all for it. The Sox and Pats get all of the hotties at their games. It’s time to bring it to the Garden too! ha ha.
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Master Po, are you saying you go to a lot of games?
Do you plan on going to the same amount this season?
I went to 8 last year, but I can’t see myself there this season that many times.
With the place banged out each night, all the fair weather fans, it’ll be harder to get good seats at a reasonable price…it’s just hard to fathom.
I’ve been posting here ever since Dale Arnold (of all people) alerted listeners to this site on his radio show way back when…and it seems there are SO many new posters here b/c of the KG signing, etc.
It may be just me, but in years past the Garden was never full of Celtics die-hards even last year when we were terrible. It seemed it was filled with families who couldn’t afford going to a Sox/Pats game or people who looked like they didn’t want to be there. Of course now there will be a change since it will be very hard getting tickets but I’d rather have to sit next to someone who asks if there is an “intermission” than no one at all.
mcpu40 – Living in Kansas makes it difficult for me to go to any games, although I am trying to see a couple this year. I know that I watched 80 of thre 82 games last season and the same thing since NBA League Pass was invented. And when we won our last banner in 86’ I had already been a fan for about 18 years. Like several people in here, many of us were chatting about the Celtics on the old Globe chat site before Jeff started this site (including Jeff/Ranter). Bandwagon jumpers garner no favor with me. I would rather talk to someone drunk on the green stuff than someone who has no clue and just staggered in the door to find the party. I am a snob that way.
I’ll say it again — empty seats don’t cheer, don’t create atmosphere, don’t pump $$ into the system (and that’s what it’s all about) to justify going over the cap. Empty seats don’t draw players nor do they boast TV & radio ratings.
Long time ago I worked in the music industry and I hated, hated when a band I liked became popular, because it meant larger venues, tickets were harder to come by and so on and so forth. The difference here is, without the “other” fans there’s no smaller venue to fall back on. The Celts can’t just go play over at Conte Forum and make it a private party.
We all need the “other” so the Celts can afford the to spend.
So you go to less games – beer is cheaper at home and parking is better. I was a season ticket holder throughout the ML / Pitino era, had the place to myself — I’d give up the ease of getting in and out of Causway Street for another banner.
by SShoreFan on Aug 16, 2007 8:49 AM EDT reply actions
Gino, yes having ‘fans’ is a good thing.
But the die hard ones (especially the ones without significant supplemental income) will be out of luck when it comes to actually attending a game, b/c the tix will be gobbled up by the pink hats and their cronies.
It isn’t ‘elitism’.
There’s something to be said for staying with a team through THICK and THIN.
A lot of us here are those people.
This article hits the nail on the head…and it’s a bit sad.
Young Caine said a true Celtic fan is one that stuck with them during the Sidney Wickes, Curtis Lowe period. Dave Cowens was player-coach and did most of the rebounding despite being crippled. Cedric Maxwell served his rookie sentence. And then along come a BIRD of different feather.
Now Master Po it’s up to you to reword what I said into true young caineity.
I guess the tough part for me is going from one end of the spectrum to the other. Last year I had a 12 game pack for crappy $19 seats (as well as several other $10 seat games). The guy emailed me back earlier this week saying that the cheapest he has for the pack are $43 a seat tickets. I am by no means rich enough to get good seats, and I just like to be in the Garden when games are happening. I am afraid I will not be able to do that this year, as often.
Having many new fans is great. I no longer look like an idiot with my Celtics bumper sticker, screen saver, and Paul Pierce jack in the box at work, but there really was no transition. I am sure I will make it to some games this year and the energy will be through the roof- and man, the winning will be great, but I don’t want the Celtics to turn into the Red Sox.
i always have had hope for the c’s. i really thought pitino was going to right the ship, and he was the biggest disappointment.the blackest days were when red was thinking of going over to the knicks to get away from john y brown.but red stayed.this year we will be better and the cabin fevered fans new and old will get crazy. i just hope the newer fans don’t let any of the indulgent, narcissism of our era get in their or our way.
Great article. I love the categories. I too am bracing myself for the bandwagoners claiming ‘what a tough 20 years it’s been’, when they haven’t endured anything.
Having said that, does it really matter? As painful as it can be to listen and watch these types, there will be no way for them to experience the same level of satisfaction that most of us will experience if this team is successful.
New fans and more fans are good things for both the Celtics and this site and just because new names are popping up doesn’t mean they’re all new fans/readers. I don’t have ‘100 posts’, but I’ve been here a long time.
Here is a PERFECT comparison.
This Saturday, tickets for VAN HALEN go on sale.
They will play the TD BANKNORTH GARDEN on 10/30/07.
I anticipate tickets to be between $125 and $175/ea.
No way, no how.
Can you imagine being ‘lucky’ enough to score a ticket to this show, only to wind up sitting next to (4) hammered, privileged BC students who weren’t even BORN when 1984 came out?
No thanks.
Buy the special DVD that’ll be out after the tour, and watch it on HDTV.
Wow guys. I feel like I need to justify to you that I belong on this board as a true celtic fan. It is true that I have only posted 2 or 3 times on this board but I am still as much of a Cs fan, if not more than you because…
1. I still own the D Brown pumps
2. I have games on tape where Dino led the charge.
3. I constantly compare people to John Bagley
4. Check out my Blog name. If you don’t get it, it must mean your a Bandwagon fan right?
5. I know that Kevin McHale has the nastiest armpit hair imaginable. I have a poster to prove it
6. I played in a mini Boston Garden in my basement
7. I believed we were going to be a good team last year
8. I’m convinced that if I’m watching a game that the Cs will lose or blow their huge lead. During their great comeback in the playoffs in 2002 I went to shoot around outside during the fourth quarter. You’re welcome!
9. I’m secure enough to know that just because there are going to be bandwagon fans, it doesn’t mean I’m a less special as a Celtic fan. Hell, I envy people that were able to let them go for all of those years.
10. I have “small town” in my head right now
Is that good enough for you? I could go on but then I’d just be bragging. Give me a break guys. Embrace this period, smile at the new comers, and get ready for a lot more of Bob Cousy’s “Beautiful†calls.
by overthebackboardoooh on Aug 16, 2007 9:26 AM EDT reply actions
mcpu40 -
:) I could tolerate that if it wasn’t for the fact that Eddie’s 16 year old son is replacing Michael Anthony!! :‘( What’s up with that????
by SShoreFan on Aug 16, 2007 9:31 AM EDT reply actions
overthebackboardoooh - who in the world are you referring to ? No one attacked you, or meant to imply you personally were not a fan.
Old fans, new fans, and even fairweather fans all have a right be Celtic fans and ALL are welcome on this site …
the only thing I think people were saying was (a) new fans who come on board because Celtics may now be a “popular” team are going to make things more difficult/expensive for die-hard fans in terms of tickets, etc.. (define die-hard as you wish)and (b) some old cranky fans like me have a hard time with new bandwagon fans (and thats my own problem)
Try the decaf bro ….and by the way I admire your Celtic enthusiasm – Peace
SShoreFan,
From what I know, Michael Anthony isn’t getting along with the boys, and is actually going to do a tour/project with Sammy Hagar.
Anyone named Wolfgang Van Halen has got to be a superior bass player. Eddie says he is.
Can you imagine if Wolfgang Van Halen told his dad he wanted to be an architect?
Eesh.
Still, back the Celtics comparison…it’s basically the same thing. Finally, VH is back on a stage…but it’s priced out of reach for some, and therefore, packs the place with people who may not appreciate it as much as those who know every song on Women and Children First.
McPu40
Does Eddie get along with anyone? Can you imagine if the line up was Alex/Eddie/Michael plus David Lee & Sammy sharing duties. They could charge $300 a ticket and sell out all week.
I first saw U2 at the Orpheum in 1983 and I had no problem getting tickets – today I have to pay through the nose and it’s an f’n chore to get them even if they play the Garden for 5 straight nights. With over 30 shows to my name, I am one of the long term diehards, but the hassle of getting a ticket today goes with the territory. I can gripe or I can go with the flow – I chose go with the flow.
As I stated before, I’d rather have a full house for the Celts day in day out so that the owners can afford to go over the tax and keep us posting.
THE “PINK HATTERS” MAY GO TO THE GAMES – BUT THEY’LL NEVER COME HERE – so we have that going for us.
by SShoreFan on Aug 16, 2007 9:55 AM EDT reply actions
That’s correct SShoreFan.
The Pink Hatters are on Newbury street today…shopping.
30 times you’ve seen U2?! Wow.
I’d hate to tell you how many shows I’ve seen.
Never seen U2, but I’ve easily been to more than 300 concerts…I’m a live music junkie.
Everyone from Cannibal Corpse to George Clinton and the P-Funk All-Stars to The Allman Brothers last Tueday night at the Bank of America Pavillion.
I started following the celtics at the tail end of the big three. Mostly through the paper, but I watched every game televised nationally and every time they played they pistons. (local tv) I seen Bird hit his head on the floor, I seen Reggie fall in the playoffs, and I seen D Brown win the dunk contest. I remember the Chief’s drop step, Mchales incredible post moves, and Bird laying on the floor trying to save his back. I do not remember winning a championship! I went and seen them everytime they played at Cleveland or Detroit (Close to where Im from)
by billy774 on Aug 16, 2007 10:05 AM EDT reply actions
and Ive watched pretty much PPs whole career via NBA league pass. I’ve seen the C’s lose so many games its sad, Id love to see them win it all #17 has been the most elusive but I’ve been waiting since the Bad Boys were repeating, for us to win one. GO CELTICS!!!!!!!
by billy774 on Aug 16, 2007 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
Music – ahhhh, don’t get me started, 14977 songs on the IPod. I too am a music junkie – the same way I am Celts/Sox junkie. With younger kids though, I see less concerts and less games than I’d like, but it goes with the territory.
I used to love hanging on Newbury watching the “Pink Hats” shop!!
This town as incredible passion – and I attribute much of that to the colleges – constant new blood. Which brings us back to the original topic – we live in a passionate, exciting city – there’s room for everyone - even if it means we need to be a bit more creative to accommodate everyone.
by SShoreFan on Aug 16, 2007 10:34 AM EDT reply actions
To those complaining about not being able to get tickets, would you rather have your choice of seating for a 33 win team or would you rather have to pay a little more and have a harder time getting tickets to watch a championship contender?
mcpu40, anybody who is complaining reeks of elitism. Having bandwagon fans and “pink hats” are a great thing, don’t complain. Personally, as a season ticket holder, I’m thrilled that I’ll be able to sell tickets this year.
Hey i’ll admit, that I just became a member here a few weeks ago, however, that was only because it was the first time that I really wanted to make a comment. I have been on this site for like 2 years now, even though im a college student in chicago, Boston is still my home.
The big downside to the celts being relevent again is all of the fans who are going to go out and buy a C’s hat, just to be trendy now…
I have always preferred rooting for the underdogs, which is why the first pats championship (out of their recent run) meant the most to me because no one saw it coming, and we had a player come out of now where in Tom Brady…
Although its great to see the celts winning now… A part of me wishes they could have came out of no where, and had their own home grown talent win a championship for them.
However, having 3 perennial all stars on the same teams not too shabby if I cant have the former…
Hey at least as a long time Celtics fan in NYC I can get to at least three or four games a year at Madison Square Garden and in NJ thanks to people unloading Knicks tickets and the Nets not even selling out playoff games. Though maybe I won’t be able to find cheap deals to Knicks/Celtics games as easily any more.
by ChainSmokingLikeDino on Aug 16, 2007 12:27 PM EDT reply actions
ChainSmokingLikeDino said:
Hey at least as a long time Celtics fan in NYC I can get to at least three or four games a year at Madison Square Garden and in NJ thanks to people unloading Knicks tickets and the Nets not even selling out playoff games.
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Now THAT is a thought.
Go see’em on the road!
Nothing like a weekend in NYC to get you going.
Thanks for the idea Chain Smoker.
My sister lives in Brooklyn, great reason for a weekend visit.
King
King James messed the on the road games at Cleveland twice a year, up for me! Before James I could get a $10 ticket and sit front row right behind Tommy. Now after James I have to sit up in the nose bleed seats.
by billy774 on Aug 16, 2007 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
I’m not interested in labeling the fans, the more the merrier. It’s all about the rings. Hop on board and who knows how long this train will take us.
by docextension on Aug 16, 2007 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
mcpu40, don’t pretend to know who I am and what I’m about. I’ve been a season ticket holder the past 3 seasons. Last season was particularly rough. Many games I couldn’t GIVE tickets away, let alone sell them. I don’t make a lot of money. I can afford my tickets, but obviously it’s a good thing if I can get someone to buy some off me. Sorry if that doesn’t make me as “real” a fan as you if I can’t show up to 41 home games. Moron.
My personal bias aside, I’ll say it again, having bandwagon fans and front runners is a good thing. Look at the Sox. They’re able to pay JD Drew a boatload of money because they know they can count on Fenway Park being sold out for the season and the tv ratings being through the roof. Having these extra fans just means more revenue for the team and more money to pay guys like KG. Sorry if you’d rather watch these guys in an empty building, but that’s just not practical.
Again, would you rather see a 30 win team and have plenty of tickets available or would you rather watch a championship contender and have a harder time getting tickets?
Gino -
You’re lucky to have season tickets.
And yet you’re thrilled that you can now sell them?
I just don’t get it.
Why buy them in the first place?
And last season you say you couldn’t ‘give’ them away.
How about using this site, or other methods to give them away?
Like calling the Dorchester YMCA?
They’d be gone in a heartbeat.
I don’t ever buy it when someone says they can’t give away tickets, because it simply isn’t true.
There are TONS of kids that would’ve wanted to go and use your seats last season, even while the team is in the midst of an 18-game skid.
Maybe it is elitist to be bothered by the fact that the arena will now be jacked with so called ‘pink hats’. Fine. So I’m elitist.
I went to 8 games last season, saw them win once.
I plan on going to 2 games this season, if that, because of the reasons stated in this article today.
Good for the Celtics that they’ll sellout games, good for revenue, good for their future.
Kind of bad for long time fans who’ll get lost in the shuffle so that more privileged people, people that couldn’t care less, people that’ll be there but couldn’t name more than 3 players, people that’ll be talking on their phones, talking with each other, and standing to cheer two-seconds after the rest of the crowd does just because the rest of the crowd is…
I’ll be involved in every game, just 80 of them will be in my living room.
Enjoy the season.
You’re lucky to have season tickets.
And yet you’re thrilled that you can now sell them?
I just don’t get it.
Why buy them in the first place?[/i]
Again, this isn’t that hard to understand. I can’t make 41 home games. It’s just not practical. Obviously I’d rather sell my extra seats than give them away. This isn’t that tough a concept to grasp
of bad for long time fans who’ll get lost in the shuffle so that more privileged people, people that couldn’t care less, people that’ll be there but couldn’t name more than 3 players, people that’ll be talking on their phones, talking with each other, and standing to cheer two-seconds after the rest of the crowd does just because the rest of the crowd is…Well, that’s a shame but it’s a reality. Maybe I’m just too much of a realist. You only have two options, sit in an empty building watching a 30 win team, or deal with bandwagoners on a championship contender. I’ll take the later.
Enjoy the season.
We’ll all enjoy the season, how can we not?
You’re here on this site because your a big C’s fan.
Same reason I’m here.
The article today kind of bummed me out because as you say, it’s a reality.
Still, consider ‘giving’ your seats away here and there this season if you can’t make it.
The Y is always looking and will send kids in the blink of an eye.
It’s gotten to the point where the Red Sox pink hat patrol is almost unbearable. There’s nothing worse than standing next to someone at a bar while the Sox game is on and having them scream obscenaties at the TV when a Tampa Bay Devil Ray hits a meaningless single in a game played in April. Meanwhile they couldn’t pick Ted Williams frozen head out of a lineup.
Hopefully it will take awhile for them to catch on to the Celtics.
After Big Al has achieved personal and team success with the Wolves there is no way he will consider returning to an aging .500 team that stabbed him in the back.
by Celtsfansince55 on Aug 16, 2007 4:47 PM EDT reply actions
I got 2 tickets to section 132, seats A-8 and A-9, can I get $15 a piece, $15 okay, now can I get $20, $20, do I hear $20, $20!. How about $25, $25!, Can I get $30, $30! $30!, What you say, can I get $35, $35, $35, going once, going twice, sold for $30 each to the guy in the Celtic shirt holding the koolaid.
by docextension on Aug 16, 2007 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
I’m the truest, most died-in-green Celtic fan in the whole … wide … world!
Kind of a silly topic to debate, no? A fan’s a fan. Who’s sitting next to you in the fans is inconsequential. All that matters is what happens on the court.
By the way, I’ve posted since the Globe days, too, but I change my name and my opinions so often that I probably seem like one of those front runners. I was Bleed Green at one point on the Globe, until someone else started using it and told me I stole it from him! LOL. I don’t think I’ve ever used the same name for more than a year. There may be others on here who seem like Johnny Come Latelies for the same reason.
































