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All Day Quick Hits - Backup PG?

I know this may come as a shock to some of you, but I think that we might just be in need of a backup point guard.  I know this is a totally new concept coming out of nowhere that you certainly haven't read 300 times this week alone, but it is true.

Sarcasm aside, the usual disclaimer must be given: This is not a knock on Rondo.  He's just young and needs to grow into the position.  Besides, he can't play 48 minutes a game.

So where will that backup point come from?  The guys that we thought would be options have signed either elsewhere (Knight, Atkins), are no longer available with what we have to trade (Bibby, Dre Miller), or are just plain too old or ornery or both to help much (Payton).

Ainge has gone into wait-and-see mode.  That probably means he's thinking somebody worth getting is going to be cut before or during camp.  Simmons thinks that guy could be Sam Cassell.  Some think that guy might be Saras Jasikevicius.  Or perhaps it will be Tyronn Lue.  Who am I forgetting?  Who would you want to sign?

(Note: The rumor out today is that Ruben Patterson wants to play for the Celtics - he's not a point guard, but it is a similar subject.)

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I’d love Cassell but I wonder if the Clips are really willing to just cut him. I wouldn’t mind Saras or Lue either. Just get somebody with a decent head on their shoulders.

by Jeff Clark on Aug 22, 2007 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

need a vet to lead the way, i don’t think House is the answer. i am sure that Lue is not the answer either. i guess i’m hoping that someone like Cassell who isn’t too old, can come in a fill in the gap. I look at it this way, if rondo goes down with a serious injury who will come in and still be productive at PG?

by heyvik on Aug 22, 2007 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Sam Cassell would be the perfect backup for us if we could make a deal with the Clips. With Brand going down they know they won’t do anything this year, so why not?! Probably the 6 million that he makes… Won’t that count as 12 mil with the cap? He would have to be bought out by the clips I think and then sign for a much smaller amount with us.

by EJPLAYA on Aug 22, 2007 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

While I hope it would be one of the three you mentioned, I am afraid it might be Dan Dickau.

by Eeyore III on Aug 22, 2007 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I would also take Payton back in a heartbeat if we couldn’t swing Sam.

by EJPLAYA on Aug 22, 2007 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m thinking about Nick Van Exel. Apparently, he’s been out of basketball for one year, but in 2005-6, he averaged 15 mpg for the Spurs as a backup point guard. He recently said he’s several times the point guard that House is. Perhaps he should be brought into camp and given a chance to back up his claim.

by no kidding on Aug 22, 2007 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe Damon Stoudamire will eventually be bought out.

by Eeyore III on Aug 22, 2007 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I want The Octopus— Dimitrius Diamantidis

by Brickowski on Aug 22, 2007 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Cassell would be perfect obviously, but I don`t see clippers buying him out at this point. If Stoudamire is bought out I would like to add him.

Brick, Diamantidis would be great but I doubt we will ever see him in the NBA…

by thebirdman on Aug 22, 2007 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Most importantly we need good character at this position… someone who is willing to take less minutes, still allow Rondo to grow and mature, and someone who makes solid decisions. I haven’t a clue who that is right now.

by birdball32 on Aug 22, 2007 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

If Andre Minner or Mike Bibby were on the team, they wouldn’t be backups.

by Mr Freeze on Aug 22, 2007 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Let’s see in camp how House and Pruitt do. We no longer have $$$ to throw around. I like the deals they didn’t make (Payton etc). I like Sam Cassell but I don’t think Sam sees himself as a back up and he is expensive (times 2).

by Wildblu1 on Aug 22, 2007 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Orien Greene. We need somebody who can bring the ball up, hand it to one of the 3, and play solid defense. Most of Greene’s turnovers were from trying to penetrate and getting caught in the air. Wouldn’t need to do that with the weapons at his disposal. Most important, we’d have a strong defender at the one or the two for the opponent’s
final possession.
Sam’s ego will make him disruptive as a backup.

by iowa plowboy on Aug 22, 2007 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope Cassell or Stoudamire are bought out soon. Both are good enough to improve this team and step into the starting lineup if the Celtics needed them to.

by Wide Load on Aug 22, 2007 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

We had a back up PG – his name was Delonte West

I say get Gary Payton – one of the best ever. He inversts the defense with his back to the basket moves – we have shooters now who can hit on the kick out from GP

by Master Po on Aug 22, 2007 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Stoudemire is a cancer. No way I bring him in.

by EJPLAYA on Aug 22, 2007 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I’d go with whoever gets cut first, Stoudamire or Cassell. Despite the fact that I’d prefer Cassell, if Stoudamire gets bought out first, unless Danny has some real insider knowledge, he can’t afford to gamble that Cassell will be bought out too. Either guy would provide what we need.

I too fear we might have a Dan Dickau redux. I really don’t see what he provides. I think I’d rather see Eddie House over him.

by Jon on Aug 22, 2007 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

PO – Almost anyone can do the job that Delonte did as a backup PG. He wasn’t a playmaker in the half court. He couldn’t even dribble with his right hand. All he would have done with this team is be a backup to the PG and a backup to the SG. He was only going to come up the floor and hand the ball off as the PG. Then be a liability due to his size at the SG position. He was much more suited to the SG than the PG. House can come up and hand the ball off as well. He’s as good as a shooter as well.

Don’t get me wrong, Delonte was my favorite player for the C’s last year because of his heart and hustle, but that doesn’t make him better than he actually was.

by EJPLAYA on Aug 22, 2007 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

How is Damon Stoudamire a cancer?? The rumor out is that he wants out of Memphis (one of those “i wanna win rather than rebuild” deals like peirce and garnett). Cassell is pretty good, why would he get cut? If Mighty Mouse is available, take him

by J.Money on Aug 22, 2007 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Every place he has been he has whined about not being given the opportunity to start after he gets pushed to the bench and that he wants out. When he is sitting the bench for the most part here, how long do you think it will be before he is complaining? He does have nice stats though…

by EJPLAYA on Aug 22, 2007 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope you are right EJPLAYA - my favorite as well (Gomes, Al Jeff, Delonte) all three great guys now gone – like a fart in the wind…..errr…sort of

 ;)

by Master Po on Aug 22, 2007 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

1. Lue would be my first choice (buds with KG, Finals experience)
2. Randy Livingston – NBDL mvp at 31, hungry
3. Orien Greene – i liked him and think he’s a passing/defense fit with House

Cassell is NOT GETTING cut… why would they? they could likely get a 1st round pick from DAL, PHO, CLE for him late in the season.

by Gainesville Celtic on Aug 22, 2007 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s hard to say who the back up point will be. I agree with Ainge, need to step back and see what develops and then react. I do see the pg need been fulfilled if not by the start of the season, early on sometime. I do have confidence the bench will transform to be a respectable one come playoff time.

We landed the big fish (KG) and a good size one too (Ray Allen). All that’s left is to get a few more mediocre ones and maybe have a big #17 fish fry.

by docextension on Aug 22, 2007 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Did Troy Hudson sign somewhere? He still available? I’ve been away for a bit so maybe I missed something.

by Real World on Aug 22, 2007 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

You know they will be inviting some PGs and some SFs to camp. Will be interesting how the rookies hold up. Like the idea of getting someone who has been parked in europe or nbdl – will look into this livingston guy.

by gar on Aug 22, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree that if Cassell is cut, he would have to be your first choice. I’ve never really liked Stoudamire or Lue, but either would be a decent backup. Anthony Johnson would be a great fit, but unless Atlanta cuts him, the only matching salary we have is Scal. I say wait and see if someone comes available and/or if Pruitt can do the job.

by rondolicious on Aug 22, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Celtics go through the season with the point guards (Rondo) or pseudo-point guards (House, Pruitt)that they currently have under contract or the rights to sign, they will not go very far. I’ve said it often – second-year point guards, unless they are special (Deron Williams, Chris Paul) are not stable enough for the pressure of a playoff run. House is an undersized shooting guard. Pruitt, from what I saw of him in college, was a borderline pick. Hopefully he’s got something more than the ordinary talent he displayed in school.

I’d talk to Atlanta about one of their three veteran points now that they are going to bring along the rookie Law. Anthony Johnson would be my first choice, then Claxton, then Lue (like the C’s need another midget in the backcourt). I’d explore signing Charlie Bell and see if the Bucks match. As far as Sarunas, I don’t think he’s worth the bother. I’d rather see the C’s sign Pepe Sanchez.

Troy Hudson is going to work out for the Spurs, and I wonder if that may change the mind of those around here that wanted no part of him. He can’t be worthless if R.C. Buford thinks he’s worth a look, and it’s not as if SA is devoid of point guards.

I do like Rondo and think he has a reasonably bright future, but I don’t think that futre is right now.

by lemonadesky on Aug 22, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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