All Day Quick Hits - Backup PG?
I know this may come as a shock to some of you, but I think that we might just be in need of a backup point guard. I know this is a totally new concept coming out of nowhere that you certainly haven't read 300 times this week alone, but it is true.
Sarcasm aside, the usual disclaimer must be given: This is not a knock on Rondo. He's just young and needs to grow into the position. Besides, he can't play 48 minutes a game.
So where will that backup point come from? The guys that we thought would be options have signed either elsewhere (Knight, Atkins), are no longer available with what we have to trade (Bibby, Dre Miller), or are just plain too old or ornery or both to help much (Payton).
Ainge has gone into wait-and-see mode. That probably means he's thinking somebody worth getting is going to be cut before or during camp. Simmons thinks that guy could be Sam Cassell. Some think that guy might be Saras Jasikevicius. Or perhaps it will be Tyronn Lue. Who am I forgetting? Who would you want to sign?
(Note: The rumor out today is that Ruben Patterson wants to play for the Celtics - he's not a point guard, but it is a similar subject.)
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need a vet to lead the way, i don’t think House is the answer. i am sure that Lue is not the answer either. i guess i’m hoping that someone like Cassell who isn’t too old, can come in a fill in the gap. I look at it this way, if rondo goes down with a serious injury who will come in and still be productive at PG?
Sam Cassell would be the perfect backup for us if we could make a deal with the Clips. With Brand going down they know they won’t do anything this year, so why not?! Probably the 6 million that he makes… Won’t that count as 12 mil with the cap? He would have to be bought out by the clips I think and then sign for a much smaller amount with us.
I’m thinking about Nick Van Exel. Apparently, he’s been out of basketball for one year, but in 2005-6, he averaged 15 mpg for the Spurs as a backup point guard. He recently said he’s several times the point guard that House is. Perhaps he should be brought into camp and given a chance to back up his claim.
Most importantly we need good character at this position… someone who is willing to take less minutes, still allow Rondo to grow and mature, and someone who makes solid decisions. I haven’t a clue who that is right now.
by birdball32 on Aug 22, 2007 9:52 AM EDT reply actions
If Andre Minner or Mike Bibby were on the team, they wouldn’t be backups.
by Mr Freeze on Aug 22, 2007 9:53 AM EDT reply actions
Orien Greene. We need somebody who can bring the ball up, hand it to one of the 3, and play solid defense. Most of Greene’s turnovers were from trying to penetrate and getting caught in the air. Wouldn’t need to do that with the weapons at his disposal. Most important, we’d have a strong defender at the one or the two for the opponent’s
final possession.
Sam’s ego will make him disruptive as a backup.
I’d go with whoever gets cut first, Stoudamire or Cassell. Despite the fact that I’d prefer Cassell, if Stoudamire gets bought out first, unless Danny has some real insider knowledge, he can’t afford to gamble that Cassell will be bought out too. Either guy would provide what we need.
I too fear we might have a Dan Dickau redux. I really don’t see what he provides. I think I’d rather see Eddie House over him.
PO – Almost anyone can do the job that Delonte did as a backup PG. He wasn’t a playmaker in the half court. He couldn’t even dribble with his right hand. All he would have done with this team is be a backup to the PG and a backup to the SG. He was only going to come up the floor and hand the ball off as the PG. Then be a liability due to his size at the SG position. He was much more suited to the SG than the PG. House can come up and hand the ball off as well. He’s as good as a shooter as well.
Don’t get me wrong, Delonte was my favorite player for the C’s last year because of his heart and hustle, but that doesn’t make him better than he actually was.
1. Lue would be my first choice (buds with KG, Finals experience)
2. Randy Livingston – NBDL mvp at 31, hungry
3. Orien Greene – i liked him and think he’s a passing/defense fit with House
Cassell is NOT GETTING cut… why would they? they could likely get a 1st round pick from DAL, PHO, CLE for him late in the season.
by Gainesville Celtic on Aug 22, 2007 11:03 AM EDT reply actions
It’s hard to say who the back up point will be. I agree with Ainge, need to step back and see what develops and then react. I do see the pg need been fulfilled if not by the start of the season, early on sometime. I do have confidence the bench will transform to be a respectable one come playoff time.
We landed the big fish (KG) and a good size one too (Ray Allen). All that’s left is to get a few more mediocre ones and maybe have a big #17 fish fry.
by docextension on Aug 22, 2007 11:40 AM EDT reply actions
Did Troy Hudson sign somewhere? He still available? I’ve been away for a bit so maybe I missed something.
by Real World on Aug 22, 2007 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
You know they will be inviting some PGs and some SFs to camp. Will be interesting how the rookies hold up. Like the idea of getting someone who has been parked in europe or nbdl – will look into this livingston guy.
by gar on Aug 22, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
I agree that if Cassell is cut, he would have to be your first choice. I’ve never really liked Stoudamire or Lue, but either would be a decent backup. Anthony Johnson would be a great fit, but unless Atlanta cuts him, the only matching salary we have is Scal. I say wait and see if someone comes available and/or if Pruitt can do the job.
If the Celtics go through the season with the point guards (Rondo) or pseudo-point guards (House, Pruitt)that they currently have under contract or the rights to sign, they will not go very far. I’ve said it often – second-year point guards, unless they are special (Deron Williams, Chris Paul) are not stable enough for the pressure of a playoff run. House is an undersized shooting guard. Pruitt, from what I saw of him in college, was a borderline pick. Hopefully he’s got something more than the ordinary talent he displayed in school.
I’d talk to Atlanta about one of their three veteran points now that they are going to bring along the rookie Law. Anthony Johnson would be my first choice, then Claxton, then Lue (like the C’s need another midget in the backcourt). I’d explore signing Charlie Bell and see if the Bucks match. As far as Sarunas, I don’t think he’s worth the bother. I’d rather see the C’s sign Pepe Sanchez.
Troy Hudson is going to work out for the Spurs, and I wonder if that may change the mind of those around here that wanted no part of him. He can’t be worthless if R.C. Buford thinks he’s worth a look, and it’s not as if SA is devoid of point guards.
I do like Rondo and think he has a reasonably bright future, but I don’t think that futre is right now.
by lemonadesky on Aug 22, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions
































