Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: VIDEO: Veterans Share Favorite Sports Memories

All Day Quick Hits - Stacking Up

Just how good is this team?  How do they stack up with the rest of the league?

Is there a top 3 in basketball that is better?  Would you give the nod to San Antonio or Phoenix because they've played together?

How does this team's starters stack up with the top contenders?

What about the top 9 or 10 rotation guys?  How weak are we 4-10 compared to other teams?

What about chemistry?  How about style of play?  Does it all fit together?

Here's one place to review each team's depth charts as of now.

Comment 20 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Look at it this way with our top 3 vs. SA’s:

Would you trade KG for Duncan? I probably would but am not completely sure.
Would you trade Ray Allen for Ginobli? Not sure.
Would you trade PP for Parker? Don’t think so.

I’d say that one is a wash. Collectively I’d say we have more talent, but the fact that one of their 3 is the PG that gives them a little edge.

Would you trade KG for Stoudemire? Not even with his age difference.
Would you trade PP for Marion? I wouldn’t consider that one.
Would you trade Ray for Nash? In a heartbeat.

I’d say that one is pretty even.

We are a little weaker than the other teams 4-10 at this point. Not sure we are as far behind as some of these guys think though. Rondo will be solid. Perk will surprise. We will be very competitive.

by EJPLAYA on Aug 22, 2007 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d give the edge to teams like SA and DAL who have played together… cohesiveness is underrated. From a pure talent perspective, the Celts can hang with anyone, but playing as a team takes some time.

by birdball32 on Aug 22, 2007 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way… this hourly quick hits thing is positively KILLING me at work… I love it.

by birdball32 on Aug 22, 2007 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

To me it it way to soon to compare. This team’s bench is going to be tested and revolving with players as need be. The time to make the comparison is after the trade deadline and the start of playoffs. You then have set rosters and the season’s performances to rely on.

It is just too soon to make a call when you don’t know if there is a pg that might become a Celtic anyday, if Reggie comes back and if so what he can still offer, what Big Baby and others can contribute, etc.

by docextension on Aug 22, 2007 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

and coaching… coaching is the biggest factor
when it comes down to the top 3 teams. coaching
is that 6th man in a sense

by perk on Aug 22, 2007 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I think in 10 games, San Antonio beats us 7 times. Coaching wise, we just don’t stack up. Their supporting cast is clearly superior.

Phoenix probably beats us 6 times. That combo of Nash and Barbosa will kill us.

We will be above .500 this year though :-p The eastern conference is winnable with this squad and dare I say it, even this coach.

by reggie35 on Aug 22, 2007 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

We haven’t done anything yet as a team. But these players have individually. And I think this puts us in the top eschelon of teams. Assuming they’re deep in the playoffs, the coaching will become a big deal and individual matchups with who we’re playing, ref calls etc. What I’m saying is that on paper they will contend for the title as will Phoenix, Dallas, San Antonio, (and maybe someone else from the East will surprise). And given that the east is an easier road to the finals, I think we have as good a chance as anyone — on paper. But there’s a lot of work to be done and thats assuming that everything goes well.

by GreenBalls on Aug 22, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I think a couple of teams have better trios because they are more balanced. Historically it’s not been good for your three best players to play these positions but instead to have a dominant post player and/or a PG.

Right now we don’t match up greatly with most teams because of the bench (my vote for worst in the L) but with two or three small moves we match up nicely.

by Who on Aug 22, 2007 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

1. Top 3 we are equal to anybody we just don’t have
   a top 3 at point guard like the Spurs and Suns.
2. To early to tell about the starters because
   we have to see if they work well together. We
   do not have enough experience at Center
   and PG. other teams have more at these postions.
3. Right now 4-10 we have inexperience and players
   playing basketball for the first time together.
   If we get two more veterans at PG and Center
   then we can compete with the rest of the league.
   PG – Sam Cassell for example and Mark Jacson
   at Center but I don’t think this will happen.
4. Style of play we will be a great half court team
   and half court basketball is good for playoff
   basketball. I think our defense will be better
   then anyone will expect but our fast break
   on the first unit won’t be strong but will be
   strong on the 2nd unit.

by CelticsWin on Aug 22, 2007 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

In the world of pancakes (huh?) we went from being a short-stack with no side order of bacon to a “stack of buttermilk” pancakes, some crispy bacon, and a side order of two over easy eggs. What we are missing is the pure maple syrup called chemistry. You can have the best pancakes but without good syrup you just got a stack of fluff. Gotta find that syrup before the stack gets cold and old

by Master Po on Aug 22, 2007 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty good. Top-10 (as in, outside of top-5).

Yes. Yes.

Top-10.

Bad. Very weak.

No issues. Walk it up. Yes, if everyone’s healthy and at peak.

by bullsblogger on Aug 22, 2007 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

(that was my David Thorpe impersonation)

by bullsblogger on Aug 22, 2007 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks Matt, enjoy Joe Smith ;D

by Jeff Clark on Aug 22, 2007 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

As far as the top three goes, I think Boston’s might be second-best in the league. Phoenix gets the edge because of experience and especially because of the way Nash keeps them clicking together. Boston’s big three can’t match that.

As for San Antonio— I’ve said this before, but to me they’re not so much a Big Three as they are The Great Tim Duncan and two pretty good players who are lucky to be on a team with The Great Tim Duncan. I’m not saying Parker and Ginobili aren’t quality players, but if they played for the Hawks I don’t think we’d think of them as stars.

New Jersey’s big three of Kidd, Carter, and Jefferson strikes me as closest to ours in the East— and while I’ll love a PG the caliber of Kidd, I think overall ours gets the edge there.

I can think of six or eight TEAMS I’d definitely rank ahead of the Celtics, but as far as the top three, I think we’re almost as good as it gets in the NBA right now.

by rjb182 on Aug 22, 2007 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

the team needs more depth on the bench because their top 3 while very good is old. don’t know if they have enough time or money this year but next year looks like the really big one after a lot of improvement this year.

by nazzbo on Aug 22, 2007 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

To adress the first post:

Would you trade Garnett for Duncan? YES. In a heartbeat.
Would you trade Pierce for Ginobili? No, but I would think about it.
Would you trade Allen for Parker? Yes, begrudgingly.

Add to that those guys’ CHEMISTRY (the main ingredient), and their 3 tops ours by a mile.

by Mr Freeze on Aug 22, 2007 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

according to our draft going on in “off topics” The Suns have the best 3, there three got picked in the top 12 on a Celtics blog. Hmmmmmm?

by billy774 on Aug 22, 2007 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I like our chances. I am not saying we are a better team(or worse..for that matter), but we can certainly and reallitically challenge and win in a seven games series against NBA’s elite PHX/SA/Dallas.

In the end, if we make it that far, we’ll be playing either Dallas or SA. PHX won’t make the finals playing small ball, unless they find a way to avoid both Dallas and SA in the playoffs. I can’t remember that last time a team that can only play small ball won an NBA championship. You’ve got to be able to mix it up. That’s why SA and Dallas(don’t forgett that Dallas finished with the best record in the league) are so tough. And so, when/if we face either one, Dallas has nobody to guard RAllen or KG and SA has nobody to guard PP…keep in mind that PP destroys BBowen everytime they matchup which is probably why they signed Udoka….maybe they know something…..

   ;)

by cocofan on Aug 22, 2007 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this season going to be played on a three against three format?

by Reyquila on Aug 23, 2007 5:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

CelticsBlog is a growing interactive community dedicated to providing fresh, comprehensive coverage of the Boston Celtics.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Small
Thoughts on Celtics vs. Heat
Small
Already Doubting The Celtics?
Small
Start Pavlovic over Ray to cover Dirty Wade
Small
Why we can beat the heat
Mchale_small
Can the C's Cool Down the Heat?
Small
Fourth Quarter of Game 7: A Glimpse of the Future with Rondo?
Small
Is Rondo out of his mind? Or just on some other level?
Celticslogo_small
The All Idiot Team
Giflogocolorsmall_small
Just Like Old Times...
Images_small
What Philly Fans Are Saying

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


CEO

Shamrock-blk-trans_small Jeff Clark

Authors/Editors

Hoosiers-dvdcover_small Roy_Hobbs

300h_small Wide Load

Big_4_small Jimmy Toscano

Leon_powe_small Green17

Ud_small Tom Bellinger

Grawful3_small Kiorrik

Authors/Mods

1_koolaid_avi_small FLCeltsFan

Po3_small Master Po

Images_small Bent

Green_avatar_small Fafnir

Small Tom Halzack

N23879518902_8484_small Jon Duke - CSL

Small jose3030

5bill_small Jack Jemsek

Small wjsy

Small Ryan Desmarais

250_small Brendan O'Hare

1119816_small JoshZavadil

Small TLayman

Small Anthony_Bruzzese

Small theoriginalhagrid

Sheed_small evansclinchy

Moderators

Photo_14_small Steve Weinman

Too_much_coffe_man_small Edgar

Small Chris72

Small thirstyboots18

Small CfanMissippi