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Since Ainge and the Celtics have so much love for Gomes, could he be wearing Celtics green again? Could it be as early as next season lined up next to K.G. after all?

Eh. Not likely. But that's the rumor going around, that the Wolves are going to cut him and the Celtics will pick him up. When asked about it Monday, Gomes said he heard the rumor, too, but isn't buying into it.

"I think it's just something floating around because everyone knows how good they feel about me and I feel about them, but if something like that was to happen ... I mean Minnesota is trying to build something and the one thing I thought about in all of this is that they really wanted me. They wanted me to make the deal work. That's got to make you feel good, but if that was to happen, where they would cut me, the thing about that is you would be able to sign with anybody."

Does that mean he wouldn't look for a return to Boston?

"If something like that happened, that would be the first place I would want to go, but you just never know," Gomes said.

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We’ll re-sign Ryan to the full MLE next season. You can book it! He’s an unrestricted free agent, and the Wolves have way too many young guys playing in front of him.

by bknova on Aug 7, 2007 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

If something like that happened, that would be the first place I would want to go, but you just never know – that is nice to hear.

what i noticed about gomes when he was here and in the press conference is that he is such a well spoken and great proffesional. he’s an asset to any team he’s on. i’d love it if we re-signed him next year.

by celticmaestro on Aug 7, 2007 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

one other thing, if the wolves were going to cut him, would they have done that by now? (yes i’m still hoping they wil cut him).

by celticmaestro on Aug 7, 2007 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

lets trade scali or pollard for gomes then we wont
have to worry about another team overpaying Gomes.
minny can cut or use either one of these veterans
that way we both win, but lets get serious , who
cuts a 14 and 6 guy who isnt even near his prime.

by perk on Aug 7, 2007 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Strange headline on this, Jeff.

While I don’t believe it’s going to happen, I don’t see how the headline Gomes Shoots Down Rumor applies. He stated what is obvious to everyone: It’s unlikely and makes little sense from the Wolves perspective. But it’s not like he said, Nope, not gonna happen.

If nothing else, I was encouraged to see we’d still be his first choice. Sweet.

by Cousin It on Aug 7, 2007 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

perk,
Along those same lines, who trades a 14 and 6 guy who isn’t near his prime for Pollard or Scali? Why would the Wolves assume a guaranteed veteran contract, which they have to pay even if they cut the guy, for a promising youngster with a low salary?

by Cousin It on Aug 7, 2007 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah the whole thing is very far fetched.

by perk on Aug 7, 2007 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Gomes is wrong that he could play anywhere he wanted to. He would never clear waivers. He’s a solid NBA rotation player making 775K. Probably 29 out of the 30 teams would claim him, starting with the Grizz, who would have first dibs.

by Brickowski on Aug 7, 2007 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Where did this rumor first originate? It makes absolutely no sense. I think any club would gladly give Minny no worse than a 2nd round pick, some possibly even a lower end first rounder. So why again on God’s green earth does Minny outright cut Gomes and get squat doodle?

by docextension on Aug 7, 2007 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

well the rumors obiously start in Boston…lol
now It never says they wiont come true
that is always a posibility
remember kevin Garnett??

by Edgar on Aug 7, 2007 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone said elsewhere that Gomes didn’t need to be included to make salaries work, I thought they were less than 100k off and needed to add another salary. Maybe the other salary was Gomes. Danny may have told McHale that he would in turn have to trade Gomes back. Again, far fetch, but what hasn’t been

by Vegas Green on Aug 7, 2007 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I just don’t see the rationale in cutting Gomes. If I was a Minny fan I would be absolutely livid if McHale entertained the thought of outright cutting Gomes. He’s a productive six man making peanuts.

As far as I’m concerned we traded the guy, case closed. McHale has a responsibility to the T-Wolves organization, not the Celtics to do the best for Minny. Complete lunacy if he were to outright cut Gomes.

Unless Danny has pictures of McHale in a compromising position, this ain’t going to happen boys, next topic.

by docextension on Aug 7, 2007 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I still don’t like how Gomes and two first rounders were added into the deal. McHale had no other offers for KG better than Al/Ratliff/Gerald. No one was offering a young player of Al’s caliber. Adding Gomes and both first rounders was bad bargaining by Ainge and good bargaining by McHale. Same probably could be said about adding Delonte to the draft day deal.

by johnnyrondo on Aug 7, 2007 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

The only plausible scenario is that Gomes was included to increase the size of Garnett’s trade kicker, with the understanding that Gomes would be waived by MN.

Once again, the fly in the ointment is Memphis, which can claim him before the Celtics can.

by Brickowski on Aug 7, 2007 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

johnnyrondo,
I agree, in fact I think it’s outrageous that the #5 pick was added to the allen deal and that big al was added to the KG deal. I think Ainge is a complete fool for giving up more than ratliff, wally and gg for two players who have a combined 17 all-star trips.

by Byrdman on Aug 7, 2007 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Rumor is Minny wanted either Dirk or both Howard and Terry from Cuban for KG. Dallas would not bite. Whose to say that if we didn’t offer what we did, maybe Dallas gives up Howard/Devin Harris/Dampier and picks?

On the Suns the rumor was Minny wanted Amare S. and Suns said no. Amare was a 20/10 25 year old. Again, whose to say maybe the Suns give up: Marion/Diaw/Bell and a pick or some combination of 3 quality players if Boston doesn’t give the package they do.

I’m not overly concerned with the 2 draft picks because #1, they are likely to be pick #28 in the first round and what are the chances that you are going to get a quality player who can immediately contribute major minutes for a win now franchise like we now are.

Big Al was the gold we had to give up. Gerald may always be the project, Gomes had many games where he only contributed maybe 4 points or other games where he was held to only around 4 boards. Most nights though Gomes was a good 6th man. Telfair wasn’t worth the risk, Theo was just paper.

On the #5 draft pick, you had to include West and the #5 to unload Wally and get Ray Allen. I didn’t like this draft night but because we got KG, I’m fine with this trade too. Wally was a waste of a good contract. We had to lose a good role guy in West and the #5 to get Ray Allen. Once we got him we needed KG. Time will tell how this plays out. I think we are in at least 2 finals and come away with 1 ring. It’s worth the risk in my opinion.

by docextension on Aug 7, 2007 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

If Gomes comes back to the Celtics it might be after Oct 1st I believe Realgm trade checker says he cannot be traded until 10/1/7 or he can be waived. They have 7 forwards in Minn. PF they have Al, Howard, Smith and SF Green, Brewer, Gomes and maybe Ricky. Gomes would be sixth or seventh man here and there he could be on the bench for 3 quarters of the game. Better move for him to move on I would think.

by CelticsWin on Aug 7, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Gomes won’t be waived, but stranger things have happened … so Memphis gets first dibs? Chris Wallace is the new GM and there are 2 scenarios: a). He decides Gomes would be buried on the bench behind his other forwards and passes which would mean Boston is next in line to grab him. Done. b). Memphis claims him. Isn’t it a little odd that the Celtics would allow Chris to take the Memphis job without any form of compensation in return? Orlando had to send Miami second round picks to sign Van Gundy and he’s just the coach. Yeah, you’re right … The Celtic organization is just really benevolent and didn’t warrant anything in return. So, anyone know the rules of claiming a player off waivers and how long they have to wait to trade him? If Gomes is waived, I bet Memphis lets him go to Boston for considerations in the Chris Wallace hiring. All this is moot because Gomes is going to give them significant depth at the 3/4 and it’s more likely they cut the veteran Howard who they picked up in the Houston trade for dumping Mike James. Howard was acquired supposedly as a veteran to help Garnett who isn’t there anymore. Maybe Howard is the next T-Wolves casualty. Howard anyone?

by desertgreen on Aug 7, 2007 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

About Chris Wallace: I think that coaches/front office personnel can always leave to take a higher position. The funny thing is that Wallace was technically the GM in Boston already, but the Memphis role is clearly a promotion and so I think Memphis couldn’t have been required to give compensation.

by dslack on Aug 7, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

In 1997, the C’s had to give up a 2nd round pick to Miami to acquire Chris Wallace. Wallace was then the GM of Miami.

by bocelts on Aug 7, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

My take on why Gomes was included in trade. Basically, it might have been done because it’s better for Gomes now. Gomes plays the 3 and 4. PP and KG play the 3 and 4. If PP and KG get 10 minutes off per game, then Gomes may play 20 minutes at most. Gomes has changed his game to become more of an outside player. On the C’s as constituted Gomes will have little chance to get better. Hopefully he’ll get more playing time with the Wolves. And hopefully he can resign with us next year as a more developed and thus more valuable player. In addition Scals skills will work better with the team upgrade and he might be more valuable now than Gomes, at least for this year and possibly longer.

by TrueGreen on Aug 8, 2007 7:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Celtswin, I see your point if Minny has 7 forwards and may think Gomes isn’t the fit for them. The logic though is, he has value for many clubs including the Celts. Worst case scenario, they would get a later first round draft pick or second rounder from just about any team in the league.

This is why the rumor is ludicrous. If he doesn’t fit your plans, your choices are shop him for a draft pick with teams happily would stand in line or outright cut the guy. No brainer, get the pick!

by docextension on Aug 8, 2007 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Minn. also has Craig Smith.

by JPR on Aug 8, 2007 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

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