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Sounds like Ainge still wants to add another point guard.  From the Herald:

"I’m still out there looking for another player, possibly at point guard," he said. "But I’m happy with who we’ve added so far." 

He's also happy with the Scot Pollard signing (which is for the vet min according to the Globe):

"He's one of the best offensive rebounders in the game," said Ainge. "He's a terrific post defender. He has a real good feel for the game and he doesn't turn the ball over. I think he's a great teammate in the locker room. He fills a big need for us with interior defense and rebounding."

"I've always liked Scot Pollard, going back to when he was a player with Sacramento," said Ainge. "I was a big fan. I appreciated all the little things he did to help his team win."

Murphy makes an interesting observation as well:

Though not much has been said of this possibility yet, Ainge and coach Doc Rivers also consider Garnett to be part of their center rotation. 
 
Considering the dearth of large, immovable pivotmen in the league, the Celtics probably will find many situations where they are best served by replacing Kendrick Perkins [stats] with Garnett in the paint.

Meet the new bench (Herald gallery)

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said Ainge. “I was a big fan. I appreciated all the little things he did to help his team win.”

Shadows of Scalabrine!

I honestly like the signing, but still…

by Michael Anthony on Aug 8, 2007 5:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Please, not another day of Scalabrine talk.

Pollard doesn’t wow me, but he does add elements that this team will need and he’s cheap, so no complaints here.

by Jeff Clark on Aug 8, 2007 5:16 AM EDT reply actions  

no complaints here either with pollard. except maybe his hairstyles. and that thing i genuinely dislike about him that i can’t put my finger on.

by celticmaestro on Aug 8, 2007 5:31 AM EDT reply actions  

What causes “Your comment is too short”. If this post goes, it was shorter than my comment

by Wildblu1 on Aug 8, 2007 6:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Wouldnt anyone think Powe/Davis/Scalabrine/Perkins/Pollard is enough big men.. they need another wing player in my opinion .. perhaps using 2nd round draft picks / cash considerations to get that guy .
Overall i am not dissapointed in how this is turning out this season , those above mentioned could surprise and then some surrounded by these stars.

by havlicekstoletheball on Aug 8, 2007 6:50 AM EDT reply actions  

With all due respect, i think Ainge is living in the past
with Pollard. over the last 5 yrs pollard has averaged 1rpg
that might wow some into saying its a good signing. i liked
his game myself (6 yrs ago) but i feel he is washed up. i hope
im wrong but still i think we could have done better and i dont
mean with scals sister or anything just plain ole better

by perk on Aug 8, 2007 7:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Wildblue – see the post just below this for my answer.

by Jeff Clark on Aug 8, 2007 7:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Last season there was a great example of the Spurs being able to rest their starters so they had strength come playoff time. I am sorry but this bench is not going to get it done throughout the season. KG,PP,RA are going to be very tired toward the end of the season, and Danny needs to think what will have when the injury bug hits??????

by jkceltics on Aug 8, 2007 7:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m so bloody sick of Ainge’s endless BS.

by Celtsfansince55 on Aug 8, 2007 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Ainge could put a positive spin on 9/11.

by Big_Easy on Aug 8, 2007 7:32 AM EDT reply actions  

The ‘new three’ should have at least (2) on the floor @ all times, so I’m not too worried about their ‘below average’ bench.

Tony Allen can be spectactular
Leon Powe can bang with the best of them
Scal can set picks and defend
Pollard can rebound

All while at least (2) other all stars are on the floor.

This team will be fine.

by mcpu40 on Aug 8, 2007 7:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Did anyone else notice the omission of Michael Olowokandi? He is listed as a FA on Celts roster.

by 1sport1team on Aug 8, 2007 7:57 AM EDT reply actions  

My good friend C55…you were down on Cash a few weeks ago and now we’re only 5 back..let it play out and see the roster come april…BS is all part of his deal,we started late to the FA party and got scraps…next summer???be ready

by Motown on Aug 8, 2007 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

What’s wrong with us fans? Why are we so cynical? We are never happy are we?

We want our cake and eat it too!

Okay Jefferson, Green, Gomes, Telfair, Delonte, Sczcerbiak, J Green are gone.

In return we have Garnett, Allen, Davis

This was a win win for all parties and hopefully we’ll win a championship and Minnesota will continue to develop and someday win in the west. I don’t get it, everyone I’ve talked to outside of this BLOG loves the trade, yet we continue to hammer Danny and Doc in here.

We just have to wait till the season starts to find out the out come of all this. On paper it looks as if we gave away too many players for Garnett, Allen, and Davis; however talent wise we rasied our chances tremendously. Already the odd’s makers have us at 5-1 versus 90-1. Thats a huge difference.

Our problem is, and I’m included in all this, we fall in love with our players and assume they are better then what’s out there at times.

Looking back to last year, everyone wanted to trade Jefferson & company to Philly for Iverson. Yes Iverson.

Now would you rather have Garnett on your team or Iverson?

We have to be careful sometimes in our evaluation of players and how they fit on certain teams.

I’m more ecstatic about having Garnett, Allen, and Pierce working together than I would have had if it was Pierce and Iverson teaming up.

by Ancient Red on Aug 8, 2007 8:02 AM EDT reply actions  

It was only a few months back when we were all out on the ledge ready to jump because the Celtics didn’t get any of the top 3 draft picks. Now the Celtics have KG and Ray Allen, yet people are still out on the ledge because the bench isn’t what they think it should be. Think about it.

by Green Bear on Aug 8, 2007 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

A team is allowed one headcase (never two), so I’m surprised Ruben Patterson is still on the market. He’s not a pg for us, but he’s not a bad player off the bench if we still wanted another swing guy.

by Luke Middleton on Aug 8, 2007 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Ruben Paterson is still on the market because he is a sex offender who has a penchant for baby sitters.

by Scalabrine Sucks on Aug 8, 2007 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Scares me when he mentions the two FA SFs that have no NBA experience as playing an important role.

by Wide Load on Aug 8, 2007 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Now that the team’s in the going-for-it-all mode, it’s better if the bench is more experienced and defensive oriented. We need to steer clear of any Ricky Davis type, who’d spend his time looking for points, playing poor defense, and whining about his limited role on the team.

by no kidding on Aug 8, 2007 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah… I would take this line-up and gamble it, just to get out of that miserable roster of 2 years ago.

by Cry Baby on Aug 8, 2007 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

My good friend Mr. Mo: just remember this: you are the gentleman who has made me rich—on paper! Cheers

by Celtsfansince55 on Aug 8, 2007 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Scalabrine will save they day!

by RichT24 on Aug 8, 2007 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

scott pollard will maybe, hopefully, keep Scal on the bench… but to effectively bury him we need another SF, otherwise Doc will find a way to play him like 10 a game, first off the bench behind PP. Until Scal doesn’t see the court at all, I am not satisfied with our bench.

by BigAlBeezy on Aug 8, 2007 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Right now their two best bench players are Tony Allen and Glenn Davis.

by Brickowski on Aug 8, 2007 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

vet pg- vet pg- vet pg. even tho it will be a cheapo. if not then during the season, when the price will go up.

by nazzbo on Aug 8, 2007 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Of course Ainge is going to put a positive spin on things! He’s not going to trash his own acquisitions. Think about it folks.

We’re spending way too much time discussing the bench. Noone wants to talk about the players logging the majority of the minutes. It must be pretty good then.

by ChiefDK on Aug 8, 2007 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

When exactly did Scott Pollard become one of the best offensive rebounders in the game? I say when the reporter asked Ainge to comment on Pollard and that was the first thing that popped into his head.

by Cooldude5t5 on Aug 8, 2007 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Though not much has been said of this possibility yet, Ainge and coach Doc Rivers also consider Garnett to be part of their center rotation.

Right ON. This makes a lot of sense. For my money, the starting five is Rondo, Allen, Pierce, POWE, and Garnett. Put Powe at the power forward spot and let him do all the important stuff everyone else won’t do: gutsy rebounds, diving for balls on the floor, taking charges, etc… Then your next five (in terms of position) are House, Allen, maybe Scabs (hey, he’s got to do something), Big Baby, and Perkins.

by Wycsend on Aug 8, 2007 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think KG likes playing center – nor is he best suited for that role – I think it works if he plays a few minutes in a small ball center role (yes, I know that’s wierd since he’s at least 6’11’’) but not for much more than that

by Jeff Clark on Aug 8, 2007 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

We talkin’ ’bout the bench…the bench!

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…

by ChiefDK on Aug 8, 2007 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Funny, someone earlier asked when Pollard became one of the best offensive rebounders in the game…and my first thought was when did he become one of the better post defenders in the game. His defense has been terrible for the last three years. He was the fifth best post defender on the Cavs last year, right ahead of Dwayne Jones…ouch.

by Scotty on Aug 8, 2007 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

The bench wouldn’t be as big of an issue if our stars were each five years younger. Heck if two of the three were younger it wouldn’t be much of an issue, but they’re not and thus it is.

by Scotty on Aug 8, 2007 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I’d feel better about our bench if we had a head coach.

by scndtony on Aug 8, 2007 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

But with KG’s height, we can keep him at the PF, and play Powe or Davis as a short center. Think of it as “not quite” small ball. Sure you’ll have trouble guarding Shaq that way, well unless you let the 6 fouls do the work, but most teams don’t run centers like that at you; especially for longer than you can keep Perkins and Pollard out there.

by Brendan on Aug 8, 2007 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Brick – Glen Davis is the 2nd best bench player? Where did you get this well-informed information? I’d like to know, especially considering he has yet to play an NBA minute.

Jeezus!

by ChiefDK on Aug 8, 2007 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the folks complaining about the bench are forgetting how much better players can be when they’re playing alongside superstars like KG, RA and PP. Look at San Antonio. How many of the players after their top 3 would any team really be that excited about?

Unless Doc is actually stupid enough to think he can play a lineup of House, Manuel, Wallace, Pollard and Powe for extended minutes every game, the Cs bench will be fine.

Mike

by MBunge on Aug 8, 2007 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Um, did Danny and Doc ask KG about him playing center? Since he’s spent his entire career, to this point, not playing center, I hope they might mention it to him before they put him out there.

by Cullain on Aug 8, 2007 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Point guard anyone?

hoopshype headline: Jaske a Celtic?

Article quote “We hope he can go to the Celtics.” Sarunas Jasikivicius’ agent Mario Balducci.

by blceltsfan on Aug 8, 2007 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

  I think the center position all comes down to Perk’s health. Looking not at last year, when he was injured, but at the year before, when almost everyone (but the eternal doom-sayers here) liked him!. If he’s healthy, the bench problem won’t exist. He can rebound and muscle most of the other centers in the league and his shooting range of 2’ (Grins) is adequate with two of the three shooters on the floor. And it’s not just Perk, on any team, your stars have to stay healthy. BTW I seriously doubt Tony Allen will be a factor during the season due to his injury. Perhaps he might be effective by play-off time.

by Wilt on Aug 8, 2007 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I think there is some truth to MBunge’s point. For example, I think Scal tried to do too much the last couple years due to being on poor teams. This season, he can tone down his act a bit and focus on the little things.

With that said, I’d still take San Antonio’s bench.

by ChiefDK on Aug 8, 2007 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Scalabrine Sucks said:
  That is such a cop out argument presented by management and the media. Duncan, Nash, and Dirk make players with them better but they also have players on their bench who can actually play. You can make a good player better, but you cant do that with shat.
===
What are you going to write, when at the All Star Break, the Celtics are one of the top 2 or 3 teams in the east?

by mcpu40 on Aug 8, 2007 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

If Glen Davis isn’t the 2nd best Bench player, who is? This isn’t exactly a testimonial of Davis, as much as a state of affairs. Pollard couldn’t get court time for Cleveland, who was desperate for a big man. Ainge maybe should have gotten rookie Chris Richards from Minnesota. He’s big and strong, and been on 2 national championship teams.

by VT Bill on Aug 8, 2007 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I care about the East, “scal sucks”.
Anyone else?

by mcpu40 on Aug 8, 2007 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

You have to care about the East if you’re a Cs fan, goes with the territory. Most of our games are against Eastern opponents. But I understand if a non-Cs fan like Scal Sucks doesn’t care, why should he? The West has the top 4-5 teams.

by ChiefDK on Aug 8, 2007 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Scal Sucks, you can’t use masked profanities here. Don’t do it again.

by Jeff Clark on Aug 8, 2007 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

okie dokie, bye bye

by Jeff Clark on Aug 8, 2007 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s not a terrible signing. Vet minimum with the league paying for half of it? Settle down.

by soap07 on Aug 8, 2007 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the main point, soap07, is that it’s indicative of the caliber of player we can afford. And unless Ainge somehow miraculous lands a better player (using what, Monopoly money?), we’re only getting vet-minimum-level talent. Ainge can “sell it” all he wants. But to paraphrase Bill Parcells, they are what they are: bottom of the barrel available talent. Maybe good chemistry guys, I won’t dispute that. But not very good talents.

by Big_Easy on Aug 8, 2007 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently Ainge still wants to add a point guard as well he should. Remember back when House was signed and numerous people proclaimed the back-up point guard problem as solved? I said at the time that House was definitely not a point guard, he is a one-trick pony who can’t defend his position. Of course, thinking Sarunas is the next answer is wrong-headed as well. I’d have rather offered the 2 years and $4 million Brevin Knight got from the Clippers, but perhaps Knight saw more opportunity for PT in LA. Maybe Ainge didn’t like Knight. I don’t know for sure. What I do believe is the Celtics can’t win anything with Rondo and maybe Pruitt as point guards.

by lemonadesky on Aug 9, 2007 8:04 AM EDT reply actions  

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