You Are Being Heard

Nice work to all! Top shelf. Celtic Pride is back gentlemen

Wait, is this legal?

I only say that because we’re posting conversations withing a community, we’re not speaking on the record. I feel like it would be like a reporter listening in on someones conversation in their home and reporting on it.

All right. I would have figured that Jeff would have to give the go-ahead for it, but eh.

Anyway, it was really cool of that guy to only take the quotes that make it sound like we’re all going to hang ourselves over this trade.

Nothing more than a biased Minnesota writer trying to make his peeps feel better.

And while this is a public forum, the publishing the quotes in a different, likely for profit article is definately copyright infringement without prior permission.

I guess they know quality when they see it….

I’d give anything to see Blount welcoming Al in Minny after giving him so much attitude in Boston….

Congratulations on the recognition and the quotes. I will say this though, I think this site is as much positive about the KG trade as negative. If this writer is trying to portray that Celt fans in general are totally against the vet moves, that’s the equivalent of a newspaper headline saying Mrs. Lincoln enjoys play at Ford’s Theatre.

I think Big Al is an All Star for 6-8 years whether it was in a Celtic, T-Wolf or some other jersey. The thing is though, will Big Al and the cast of merry youngsters eventually win a crown or will it be the Big Trio the Celtics currently have.

I am letting it all ride for the next 4 years on KG/Allen/Pierce.

We already have a long time player (Pierce) with an outstanding career that has gone ringless to this point. I’d rather go for the banner now than to have had Big Al suffer through the same history Pierce has had up to this point.

Congratulations to all, and thanks Jeff and all of you who work so hard to provide us the forum!

I can’t believe that the posts the SI writer chose to cite are representitave of the sentiment on CB.

Al has a chance to be great, but KG is great. If Al goes on to a stellar 10 years in Minny, good for him. KG has done more for Celtics basketball in the past two weeks than anything in the past 15 years. Just imagine what it is going to be like when they actually start playing.

Not like attorneys generally know what they’re talking about either. At least that’s been my experience dealing with fellow attorneys.

Quoting material from other sources is standard practice in feature writing. News magazines exist to provide in-depth coverage and analysis of issues and events that are making news. To effectively tell the whole story, you often have to quote the reporting of other media. As long as I attribute the quoted material to the publication it originally appeared in, there’s never any issue. In fact, the sources I quote usually look at it as a free promo for their publication. In this case, the writer clearly stated that the quotes came from CelticsBlog. It’s all good.

As for privacy, as someone stated above, this is a public forum; plus, almost everyone here posts under stupid chat room names like Cousin It. It’s not like anyone knows who we really are, unless we choose to reveal it somehow.

Hobbs you are right, I shouldn’t have said it with such conviction as it is a gray area when dealing with forum posts. They are however treated differently than the main blog posts (like Jeff’s front page articles) and news articles as the nature and intent of a forum or message board post is different.

While a message board post is publicized, it is not in the public domain so it is still copyrighted (though you lose your right to privacy since you publicized the information). The question is of course whether or not it is fair use and in that regard many courts are split as to what to do with forum posts. If a reporter went on the street and interviewed people some would grant permission to use their name and quote, some would grant permission to use the quote without the name, and some would refuse to allow either. That option isn’t given to the person on a message board, which is why it is a gray area. I also should have done more research into how Celticsblog treats the posts, as CBlog could gain a license to use the text of any post and could certainly assign media outlets the right to use them.

My post was irresponsible, but I was responding to the completely and utterly irresponsible reporting in the article. It was a biased slanted piece that picked 4 anonymous posts not knowing if the posts were accurate or truthful representations of actual belief (you often find people that post the otherside whether or not they believe it) and that were a significant minority of the actual sentiment on the blog.

What’s funny about him quoting the wet blanket crowd is that they are the minority here. A typical example of the “new journalism” where you start with a preconcieved agenda and gather “facts” to support your piece. A turn from unbiased reporting (oxymoron in any case) to agenda based reporting. Truly awful.

Baristers, Solicitors and Shysters, OH MY :

Q:What do you call a lawyer with a IQ of 80??

A: Your Honor

Or:

Q: What do you call a Lawyer who went Bad?

A: Senator

Without quoting the previous posts regarding the issue on published material, I am a publisher and can say that quoting from another publication without securing an agreement from the person quoted (as well as the publication) is not allowed. I have faced that situation previously in my magazines due to a freelance article written by a non-staff member that slipped past my editor. We printed a retraction as advised by my attorney after a complaint was registered. In that case, there was no argument about the wording being factual or not (it was). The problem was that it was used without permission.

  Just re-read the article and Jeff’s comments. Just suppose – suppose, that DA felt due to private information concerning Jeff that he could NOT be re-signed by Boston. That Jeff had his heart set on warm weather? LA? Miami? Dallas? Phoenix? Well, that would now be Minnie’s problem.

If that would be the case: Machivelli would be smiling at Danny from somewhere.

Haha. Nicely done Mo.

You have the right to remain silent….

Jeez, I’ve been quoting other people’s news reports and columns the for 20 years, and no one has so much as complained, let alone threaten any legal action.

lemonadesky, are you telling me that when you publish a feature on, say, media coverage of the Iraq war, you get permission from every media outlet you quote? Or when you’re doing a feature on the economy, you get permission before quoting one of the Journal’s analysts?

Even more close to home, Jeff, do you get permission before posting passages from articles in Sports Illustrated, like the one that started this thread?