Discussion: What's Your Ultimate Team?
by Jeff Clark on Sep 10, 2007 5:55 AM EDT
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PrintHollinger's projected PER stats were just released (hat tip to Sactown Royalty) and it got me thinking. What would my ultimate team look like? Instead of boring you with what my team would look like, I'd like to open this up to discussion.
Some ground rules:
- This is for this year only. Future potential means nothing.
- Current players only, and only as they project to play this coming year (injury risk is there - age is a factor too).
- No salary cap or luxury tax restrictions. Money is no object and all the players want to play for you.
- You can pick from any player in the globe, this is not USA specific.
- The opponent team will be made up of remaining players you didn't pick and play whatever style of game that suits them.
Some things to consider:
- Who would be your number 1 overall pick? KG? Kobe? LeBron? Yao?
- Would you even pick Kobe? (I gotta admit, I probably wouldn't, but the way he's playing for USA gives me pause)
- Would you assemble the team like Team USA has (with some stars and a number of role players)?
- Would you still put younger legs in there (like Melo) or would you focus on battle-worn vets (like Billups)?
- Would you save a spot for a defensive player. This would be Ben Wallace or Bruce Bowen if they were a little younger. Perhaps James Posey?
- What role players would you like on the team? Prince? Battier?
- How many Celtics would make the team? Would Pierce make the cut? Would you pick Ray Allen ahead of him?
- Who would you chose as the coach?
I'll come up with a squad of my own later, and you'll have the pleasure of picking it apart. As a bonus, I might come up with an all-evil team to play against them. If you want to get fancy, you can come up with an All Fast Break team and an All Defense team and stuff like that.
Enjoy.
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On one hand, seeing the numbers makes you feel grate. Wally is over 100 places behind Ray Allen and Delonte isn’t far off. Garnett is a top 10 player who will probably jump to top five in the numbers simply for playing in the East.
On the other hand… this list has Lior Eliyahu ranked 69th based on his performance in Europe… This is like 30 spots over Andrei Kirilenko who is a monster in european standards. Don’t get it.
by gileyal on Sep 10, 2007 6:30 AM EDT reply actions
My team for one year would be:
PG Nash Kidd
SG Kobe Wade McGrady
SF Lebron Carmelo
PF Dirk Garnett Bosh
C Duncan Yao
There’s no weaknesses here. Shooters in Nash, Kobe, Carmelo, and Dirk. Crazy athleticism. On the ball defenders with Kidd and Kobe with shotblockers behind in Garnett, Duncan, and Yao. This would be a real Dream Team.
by ShakersJacobson on Sep 10, 2007 8:06 AM EDT reply actions
C Howard/Camby
PF KG/Duncan/Bosh
SF James/Pierce
SG Bryant/Redd/Wade
PG Nash/Billups/Paul
by T1ME on Sep 10, 2007 8:33 AM EDT reply actions
Duncan has to be the first player, then Kobe.
I’d have Deron Williams and Tony Parker at the point.
Then Kobe and Ginobili at the two guard.
Carmelo and Redd wing hunting
Boozer and KG at the four spot
Duncan backed up by Greg Oden
Wouldn’t bother with role players, just stars who are mentally able to accept roles and be productive. That whole role player thing on US team has been ridiculous. Just stop bringing in selfish players.
Nash/Kidd
Kobe/Wade
Lebron/Pierce
KG/Dirk
Duncan/Yao
by FrieCod on Sep 10, 2007 9:46 AM EDT reply actions
Fun post —
any of the combos are impressive sans Kobe. (and I think it’s too early for Oden, but we’ll see)
by SShoreFan on Sep 10, 2007 9:56 AM EDT reply actions
Any system that ranks Manu Ginobili over Paul Pierce is seriously flawed
by whales on Sep 10, 2007 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
The team I would love to watch play.
Nash
Bowen
Lebron
KG
Duncan
by alchemist on Sep 10, 2007 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
Nash/Kidd
Kobe/Wade/Hamilton
Lebron/Melo/Bowen
KG/Dirk/
Duncan/Yao
Nash can come in and be Nash while Kidd can come in and be a dishing and defensive machine. Kobe is a prolific scorer (even if I do hate him) and Wade can come in and spell Kobe as a scorer. Hamilton would come in when a defensive stop is needed. Lebron is Lebron and Melo can seriously score. All of the big men (excluding Dirk when he doesn’t feel like it) play good D and can score. Also, Dirk and KG help to spread the court with thier shooting.
by JakeyB6671 on Sep 10, 2007 10:54 AM EDT reply actions
Duncan/Shaq
Jefferson,Dirk,KG
James,Pierce,Melo
Kobe,Wade
Nash,Iverson
Half of the team can play 2 positions for versatility and great defenders KG, Shaq, Wade, Kobe, and Duncan. I could of picked 10 other players and had another great team. I picked Iverson because he was the best player last year for team USA.
Harder than it looks!
Starters:
Billups
Kobe
Prince
Garnett
Howard
Bench:
Arenas – Combo Guard
Marion – Three Position Player
Duncan – Forward Center
Notice that the five starters are arguably the best defenders at their respective positions in the league? All three bench players are tremendous defenders as well, and Arenas can really fill it up – would the oponents ever get a rebound?
by Michael Anthony on Sep 10, 2007 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
PG – Nash, Billups, Kidd
SG – D Wade, LeBron
SF – Scal
PF – Dirk, KG, Bosh
C – Duncan, Yao, KG
Scal provides all the shooting a coach could ask for
by YouveBeenPierced on Sep 10, 2007 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
Starting Lineup[/b]
C: Tim Duncan
PF: Kevin Garnett
SF: Shane Battier
SG: Kobe Bryant
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Ray Allen
PG: Kirk Hinrich
C/PF: Dwight Howard
This team would be impossible to beat. The only guy on the roster who isn’t an elite defender is Ray Allen, and he’s there as a shooting specialist. You have the best player in the world in Kobe Bryant, the best point guard in the world, the best shooter in the NBA, the top two big men (both unselfish), one of the best role players and perimeter defenders in the NBA (Battier), an enforcer off the bench (Howard), and one of the most well-rounded guards in the league (Hinrich). Not to mention, one of the best coaches in league history.
C: Stoudamire/Howard/Shaq
PF: Duncan/Garnett/Nowitzki
SF: James/Anthony/Pierce
SG: Bryant/Wade/McGrady
PG: Nash/Kidd/Arenas
Just missed the cut:
Iverson
Chris Paul
Carter
Ray Allen
Yao
by Celtic Fan Forever on Sep 10, 2007 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
Duncan/KG/James/Kobe/Kidd, with Popovich as coach. An immensely effective defense, the only soft spot is James. And James played in that exceptional Cleveland defense last year, so he does have some skill.
On the other hand, this could be the most boring great team in history.
by Cullain on Sep 10, 2007 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
Tony Allen cleared to resume playing. Can someone please tell him that a whistle stops play.
by The Real Large James on Sep 10, 2007 5:37 PM EDT reply actions
whales said:
Any system that ranks Manu Ginobili over Paul Pierce is seriously flawed
Not really. PER rates a players efficency; and since Manu plays with Duncan, he is asked to do a lot less than Paul, and hence, has less opportunity for mistakes, turnovers, forced shots, etc. Also, Ginobli plays less minutes. All of this adds up to a higher PER than Pierce. It doesn’t mean he’s a better player.
MY ALL-NBA TEAM (strictly on basketball terms)
In order of importance, not talent:
Duncan
Kobe
Kidd
LeBron
KG
Reserves:
Nash
D Wade
Melo
Dirk
Yao
Starters:
PG-Jason Kidd
SG-Paul Pierce
SF-Lebron James
PF-Tim Duncan
C-Amarie Stoudamire
Bench:
PG-Chris Paul
SG-Michael Redd
SF-Tracy McGrady
PF-Carlos Boozer
C-Dwight Howard
Coach:
Roy Williams
by mmurr33 on Sep 10, 2007 8:37 PM EDT reply actions
PG- rondo, D.West
SG- R.Allen, T.Allen
SF- Pierce, Posey
PF- Garnett, Davis
C- Perkins, Pollard
Coach- Me
by bringbackcousy on Sep 10, 2007 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
My All-Fast Break Team:
PG Nash, Kidd, Arenas
SG Kobe, Wade, McGrady
SF Lebron, Pierce
PF Garnett, Marion
C Stoudemire, D. Howard
Coach D’Antoni
My All-Defensive Team
PG Hinrich, Billups
SG Kobe, Bowen
SF Artest, Battier, Prince
PF Duncan, Garnett, Marion
C Camby, Chandler
Coach Popovich
by ShakersJacobson on Sep 11, 2007 8:19 AM EDT reply actions
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