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Rondo's Not A Playmaker?

TSN is breaking down 30 teams in 30 days and previewed the Celtics on September 1st.  One head scratching analysis was that of Rajon Rondo.  I don't see how you can say he isn't a playmaker.  But here's the text:

Much of the trepidation surrounding the Celtics' potential success begins right here, with Rondo as their starting point guard. Here we have a player who had a typical rookie season, with its usual peaks and valleys, who is now being asked to helm one of the most potent offenses in the NBA. It now falls on Rondo's shoulders to distribute shots and run a team comprised of some of the best players of this generation. And he's not a playmaker. Rondo is best compared to a guard like Brevin Knight or Earl Watson. He provides defense and a tempo change from a starting guard, but he himself still has a lot to learn about the fundamentals of the position before he can really be put in a class with Knight or Watson, let alone with the kind of top-flight guard a team like this would theoretically dictate. Either way, as a lead guard there is no reason to believe that he is ready to helm this attack, and that could become especially true in the Playoffs when each round he'll be facing off against an opponent savvier than him.

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Are we really worried about the canadians’ view of our point guard sitution?

by DannyAinge44 on Sep 3, 2007 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

they obviously haven’t heard of rondo’s 27 and 31 assist games for oaks hill academy

by myfavoritecolorgreen on Sep 3, 2007 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

You mean… a sportswriter doesn’t know what they are talking about because they haven’t watched any more than 4 Celtics games over the past 2 season? Noooo….

by CelticBalla32 on Sep 3, 2007 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

since when is Brevin Knight NOT a playmaker?

by Ian @ CelticsBlog on Sep 3, 2007 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

This guy haven’t got a clue. Probably never saw a single Celtics game last season. Anyways, this is the type of writer that probably thinks highly of PGs like SMarbury as a pure pg…..

by cocofan on Sep 3, 2007 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree, we need a back up vet pg.

by Champzilla on Sep 3, 2007 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

since when is Brevin Knight NOT a playmaker?

I didn’t know 11apg didnt qualify you as a playmaker either??

by jackson_34 on Sep 3, 2007 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

The Rondo situation is only going to be resolved one way—on the court.

I say there is a better than 55% chance, Rajon averages more than 32 minutes a game this year, and, if he does, this will mean all of the other numbers fall in place.

by Woodstock Libertarian on Sep 3, 2007 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the comparison to brevin knight is that they both can’t shoot a lick.

by FrieCod on Sep 3, 2007 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

comparing knight and watson, who are both short pg’s below 6 ft to rondo, who’s a long 6-3 with spider-like tentacles for arms just shows that the writer doesn’t know what he’s talking about….
geez, i have serious doubts about sporting news now….this is just plain ignorant and stupid….

by kenrti on Sep 3, 2007 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he might be referring to a pg that knows how to set up plays. Plays that are set up on a board, or whatever. I watch every c’s game, and at this point in his career, Rondo hasn’t shown me that he can set up and execute a pick and roll or any other set play. He has a ton of talent, but stop drinking the cool-aid. He has a lot to learn. The playmakers on this team are the big three. When the pg becomes one, then you can start to predict the future success of the team.

by ShakeNBake on Sep 3, 2007 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

It´s a shame how uninformed sports writers play with the career and image of a young player like Rondo, for the sake of their own big butts…

by Casperian on Sep 3, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

In the words of a caveman: “Ummm…what?”

by RAcker on Sep 3, 2007 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder how this sports writer can explain how the Cavs made it to the NBA finals. Cavs pg either shot 3s or gave it Lebron every time down the court, no playmakers. Yet Cavs played for the crown. I’ll take our roster (including pg) over the Cavs any day of the week.

by docextension on Sep 3, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

This sportswriter is saying that Rondo will face pg more savier than him. So what happened to Chancy Billups and the Pistons.

Cav’s, point, Gibson, a rookie 2nd round pg pick, averaging 4.5 a game torches the Pistons for 21 and 31 points helping the Cavs defeat the Pistons.

Even if Rondo craps out this season, that’s not to say, one of the Allen’s can come through on point, or House steps up, or we pick up a veteran pg before the trade deadline.

Personally I would be more worried at this point if Perk gets injured again than the point situation because I think the center job is more of a need if the starter doesn’t pan out.

by docextension on Sep 3, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah this guy is simply uninformed. he hasnt watched enough celtics games to realize that rondo’s problem is not playmaking, its shooting. the only reason he is hindered playmaking-wise at all is when people back off him and make him shoot preventing him from driving and dishing. he is a great passer and has very good vision and he does so many other things well that he will absolutely thrive next to three possible hall of famers.

by timbo34 on Sep 3, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

In one breath he says Rondo isn’t a playmaker, then in the next compares him to brevin knight (a great playmaker) and then in the final breath says he’s not nearly as good as brevin knight. I made a personal rule a long time ago never to listen to anyone who contradicts themself in the same paragraph!!

Rondo’s style is perfect for this team, hence why Ainge isn’t rushing around trying to sign another veteran point guard. They have full confidence in him, and so should anyone who followed this team consistantly last year. The only thing missing from Rondo’s game last year was minutes. That won’t be a problem this year.

I love how people are attacking this kid. Mainly because he is a fierce competitor, and you know he has to be eating up this type of doubting that is going on around the league about his game. A year ago every GM in the league wanted him, and part of the issue with us getting a trade done was our inability to part with him. When did we start valuing the opinions of writers over GM’s? Rondo is not even a concern, nor will he be the reason if this team doesn’t get it done. He’s not being asked to do as much as everyone is making it out to be. Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen have the pressure on them. I’m sick of hearing about Rondo and Perkins, it’s wasted breath on role players. The critical shots and plays will rest on the shoulders of our new big 3.

by modawg3434 on Sep 3, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

This Tim guy pissed me off royally! I just wrote him an email and look forward to his reply tomorrow.

Will keep you guys posted

by Bastone on Sep 3, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Brevin Knight is so not a playmaker that he ranks 7th in assists per game for active players, with 6.82 per game. Out of the thousands of men who put on an NBA uniform, Brevin is the 24th of all time for apg.

This reporter is obviously an idiot, but he might have wanted to look at Rondo’s nombers as a starter last year. His 5.8 assists per game as a starter would have been good for 17th in the league last year, better than Tony Parker and Stephon Marbury.

If RR gets 35 minutes a night this season, he’s going to average 7 assists a game,which should be top 10.

by TripleOT on Sep 3, 2007 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

This is TSN. From stuff of theirs that I’ve read they don’t know much about what they are talking about when it comes to big league sports in the US. It’s not at all worth getting worked up over things they write. This is just more evidence that they are clueless.

by SteveZ from Edgemont on Sep 4, 2007 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Rondo will be a big disappointment to a lot of Celtic fans this year

by LarBrd33 on Sep 4, 2007 2:08 AM EDT reply actions  

To this guy’s defense, this may be the first raining-on-Rondo article I’ve read that didn’t immediately make some passing comment about his outside shot (every experts ace-in-the-hole and go-to / can’t-be-topped “analysis” … usually the same analysis you get from most fantasy articles).

by Luke Middleton on Sep 4, 2007 5:46 AM EDT reply actions  

rondo is not your traditional set up man off the top of the key. he’s more a slide and dish. he does need to work on the pick and roll but so does the whole team. i would like to know what they will do when rondo sits because they will not have a strong offensive scrub team.

by nazzbo on Sep 4, 2007 6:40 AM EDT reply actions  

can’t shoot? gambles but not a defender? can he run a halfcourt offense in big gamesexperienced enough for playoff run….all legit questions but to say he cannot win is not a given either…play it out and adjust as we go…got till feb to see

by Motown on Sep 4, 2007 6:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Rondo can run the fast break and he will out run everyone in the league down the court. The celtics will most likely have a half court offense majority of the time and I personally think it will consist of Rondo primarly swinging the ball from side to side on the court and he will penetrate the defense for a layup and dish off when the defense overplays how he is positioned and passing the ball. He will need to shoot and balance the dishes he makes like Nash, Kidd and Parker do so no one knows what he is going to do next. If they play off of him dribble in and take the 15 foot shot or dish off. I think Ray will do the pick n rolls with Garnett and Pierce is so creative I think he will do whatever the team needs for the night example Larry Bird did what the team needed to do that night to win.

by CelticsWin on Sep 4, 2007 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Rondo ain’t a pure playmaking point guard, and those who want to crucify yet another reporter who dares point out a weakness in the Boston Perfects are just petty scoundrels. As anyone who has followed the game of basketball for more than six minutes can tell you, assists are not a pure indicator of playmaking ability. Stephon Marbury averages nearly 8 assists a game for his career, but this is largely the result of accumulating numbers in weak systems where one player is allowed to dominate the ball. Kurt Heinrich is a good example of a guy who averages modest assist totals but is a top notch playmaker who can intiate an offense and run a good pick and roll. It’s why he was selected to try out for a spot on the Olympic team while guys like SuckBury stay at home. Rondo (and Brevin Knight, for that matter) can average 20 assists a game, but it doesn’t in and of itself indicate that either are good playmaking point guards. Both share the distinction of having good statistical seasons playing primarily for losing NBA teams. Rondo may develop into a good playmaker, but he he is not at the moment, and those of you who constantly take swipes at professional sports reporters for stating unpleasant truths really need to get a grip.

by Bob Dylan on Sep 4, 2007 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

The guy has a point. AS OF RIGHT NOW he is a good comparison to Earl Watson. take off the cool-aid glasses and take Rondo for what he is right now. He did not say that he will be forever bound to a player tag of Watson. He loses me when he says Rondo inst a playmaker, sure he inst a play maker on the level of jason Kidd, but who is? Rondo is a nice young player that compares to Watson as of now, but in the 09 season we maybe saying Jason Kidd or someones else. you never know

by AHHH GiVE mE a bReaK on Sep 4, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

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