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A "Good" Loss?

Ok, there's no such thing as a truely "good" loss (even when you are playing for lottery balls that may or may not deliver you a savior).  Still, Pierce was looking for silver linings. 

"Maybe it's good for us," Pierce theorized after the game. "You can always learn from a bad win. You can also learn from a bad loss."

  Here are some bright sides to the hicup in the Garden last night. 

  • Talk of historic pace and challenging records goes on hold (for now)
  • It didn't take long for me to get a partial answer to my question
  • The team was humbled - perhaps they needed it after such an emotional win against Detroit
  • Nobody really thinks much less of the Celtics, this will rightfully be viewed as a letdown game
  • If last night were a more important game, both Ray Allen and Big Baby would have played
  • Instead, both got some extra needed rest (Ray because he's older and Baby because of the dreaded "rookie wall")
  • Hey, Detroit lost too (though to a much better team)
On the other hand, a loss is still a loss and I would have preferred a win.

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Individual games are of little importance until the end of the regular season when the C’s need to start building momentum.

by Who on Jan 10, 2008 6:52 AM EST reply actions  

i agree , this one was a donation to charity. the one thing to think about is the bad rotations on the pick and roll, merely a part of the gift or a symptom of something more pervasive.

by nazzbo on Jan 10, 2008 7:26 AM EST reply actions  

Pick and roll defense and zone attack. Glen Davis would probably
help the former and Ray Allen would definitely help the latter.

by Greg37 on Jan 10, 2008 7:42 AM EST reply actions  

Iy will be interesting to see how the Celts rebound this weekend against two teams that are playing better lately, especially the Nets. Do they kick it back in gear or start a mini losing streak?

by lemonadesky on Jan 10, 2008 7:46 AM EST reply actions  

15 losses…20…25 maybe if injuries creep up…doesn’t matter,if we’re healthy and ready to go come playoffs we can win..plus Danny will add a piece or two before then..

by Motown on Jan 10, 2008 7:55 AM EST reply actions  

Detroit didn’t ‘just’ lose, they got smoked.

I was at the game last night, the Celtics stunk up the joint.

Sadly, I’ve gone twice now this year and haven’t seen them win in person.

The next game I have tickets for is for when the Clippers come to town, 02/06.

Plan on a loss that night too I suppose.

 :(

by mcpu40 on Jan 10, 2008 7:58 AM EST reply actions  

Seeing as the loss hasn’t really affected our place in the standings and that Brian Scalabrine THREW IT DOWN last night, I’d say that, yes, this was a good loss.

by Byrdman on Jan 10, 2008 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

Reasons for the loss

Emotion not high
4-20 from three point land and quite a few ill advised threes in the 4th Qtr (PP 1 for 9 and poor choice of shots)
J Richardson on fire all night
No Ray Allen to contribute to offensive flow
14 minutes of Scali nets 1 single rebound, no Big Baby or POwe for more off Boards
TA bascially invisible

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by Master Po on Jan 10, 2008 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

Charlotte is an athletic team and their energy was very high and they tried as hard as any team I have seen all year to win a game. Without Ray and Baby our energy changed and offense weakened. I cannot figure out why Powe is not playing when Baby is out and we need rebounding and defense down low. It is only a loss but this is when you figure out you have some weaknesses and will we use Pruitt or Powe if there are injuries. Or will we have pick up a vet point guard for the playoffs?

by CelticsWin on Jan 10, 2008 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

mpc40, let’s not take any chances!!!!! I am available to go in your place! ;D It is a long season and games like this happen to every team. It is unrealistic to expect any team to win 70 games a year. No need for concern since both Ray & BigBaby both did not play. Last night Celts were missing two key contributors and no machine runs as smoothly without all the parts. League Pass blocked me out of last night games. Happens almost everytime we play them bobcats. At least I did not suffer like you fans who were at or watched the game on TV.

by scndtony on Jan 10, 2008 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

The decision to play Scalabrine over Po is indeed baffling. Fourteen minutes is thirteen minutes too long for Ol’ Scal. Subpar defense (on one play, he left the man with the ball to chase someone else, giving him a wide open jumper which he made), terrible rebounding (he does not box out and tries to bat the ball instead of grab it), and his outside shooting touch gets worse all the time (his first two shots were feet from the rim). Why Doc subjected us to this last night and didn’t give Leon any PT is beyond me.

by halfman/halfoyster on Jan 10, 2008 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

I cannot figure out why Powe is not playing when Baby is out and we need rebounding and defense down low.

It’s because he’s an empty shirt. He isn’t good enough to be on the floor and the coaching staff know it … the question is why is Danny keeping him around? Because he’s a nice guy isn’t enough.

by Who on Jan 10, 2008 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

Who the Po(we) Hater >:(

by Master Po on Jan 10, 2008 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

Celtics just let their guard down basically. They forgot to show up….They needed this dope slap upside the head….

It’s as if were watching last years team play instead of the 2007-2008 team.

I was very disgusted with the play of the team then the loss. Right from the beginning this team played with no heart, until the end of the game when Garnett got into a tangle and no one came to his defense till it was too late

That pissed me off more than anything…….

Celtics need to be in the others team face and not allow anyone come to their home court like this and spank them around…..

It’s only a good loss if we show up to play the next game and the next game after that….

As I said….this team lacked heart and fight last night……..

by Ancient Red on Jan 10, 2008 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

Po just wants me to be able to use the title “Master Powe” in a blog post again. ;)

by Jeff Clark on Jan 10, 2008 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

The defensive rotations were concerning, since that’s actually two games now where they’ve been slow to recover. But, considering that they’ve been excellent at it all year, I’ll chalk it up to loss of focus, rather than a true deficiency. I’m sure that Thibodeau will run them through some crazy drills to fix that real soon.

by migit on Jan 10, 2008 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

Master Po said:
  Who the Po(we) Hater smilies/angry.gif

True Statement

He’s not an NBA level player at this point in his career and certainly not a player that belongs on a contending team.

by Who on Jan 10, 2008 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

well Jeff – if he is off the team you can use it one last time when you report it. “Master Po(we)has left the Temple…errr Garden”

by Master Po on Jan 10, 2008 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

I was having a long drawn out conversation with a Detroit fan (don’t know why really basically arguing about Celtics ‘overreaction’ to the Pistons win) who seems to have convinced himself that the loss to the Bobcats proved the Celts were a fluke. I had a good laugh over the ridiculousness of that. Pretty much time to end a conversation when someone says something ridiculous like that.

by NoraG1 on Jan 10, 2008 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

Hey, we had won 9 in a row. It won’t happen but if we went onto win 90% of our remaining games, no beef from me.

by bceltfan on Jan 10, 2008 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

We learned that if one of the bog 3 is out, we need both of the other 2 to be on their game, or we risk losing to anyone. Pierce was not. Also, Tony Allen must step up when he is starting. Part of that was his fault last night, he did not play aggressively. But part of that is Pierce’s fault. Tony rarely takes over a game when Pierce is on the court. Witness his quick meteoric rise after Paul got hurt last season. Paul has to encourage Tony to be the man even when Paul is on the court. I am not trying to make excuses for Tony, it is ultimately his responsibility, but Paul casts such a large shadow over him. The other two games when Ray was out, Allen played very well in both of them, and we of course won them both. Finally, I feel that if Tony Allen was assigned to Richardson rather than Pierce, Pierce could have had a better offensive night. Richardson probably would have scored as much—nobody was stopping him last night-but at least Pierce would have had more energy for offense.

by footey on Jan 10, 2008 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, good points, footey. But let’s face it; you never know what you get with Tony Allen.
And yes, I AM worried about this loss — not sky is falling worried, but worred. I just never liked risking so much on guys who COULD break down. But yes, I concede, it’s too early to panic. (Crosses fingers regardless…)

by Big_Easy on Jan 10, 2008 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

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