Daily Babble: Shouldn't the Cavs be more compelling?
They have the anointed savior of NBA basketball, and said savior also doubles as the NBA's most dynamic young player and one of the league's top players.
They are the defending Eastern Conference champions.
They should only get better in the years to come.
And somehow, the Cleveland Cavaliers don't compel me at all as of late.
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It seems like this shouldn't be the case. After all, I'm the guy who loved the 2005 Finals between the Spurs and Pistons, maintaining that both sides engaged in beautiful team basketball throughout. Watched every minute of that series. This Cleveland team has the man they call The Chosen One. Yet even when the Cavs were a wonderful surprise story last year, it took until LeBron's epic Game 5 against the Pistons to get me really interested, and that only lasted so far as the beginning of the Finals, prior to the stomping at the hands of the Spurs. Now that they aren't playing quite so well early on this season, forget it.
What I can't figure out is why this is.
Watching the Lakers -- often a one-man show in their own right -- is a blast. If Kobe Bryant is more compelling than LeBron, however, it is only slightly so. This makes my disenchantment with the Cavs all the more mysterious.
So perhaps it is a combination of two major causes that lead to this increasingly evident effect of the Cavs' losing intrigue, at least for this observer:
- Team identity, or lack thereof: The Cavs are nothing special one way or the other so far as getting up and down the floor. This is evidenced as they sit right smack in the middle at 15th in the league in pace (94.1 possessions per game), and as a result of that and the team's mediocrity this season, it doesn't seem that they have a truly defined identity yet. The Cavs aren't a slow-it-down-and-strangle-you defensive team, and they sit at just 22nd in the league in defensive efficiency. Further, they are 21st in offensive efficiency and have neither a potent fast-break offense nor a particularly well-executed halfcourt setup. Even last season when the Cavs were ranked much higher in defensive efficiency, they didn't garner a rep as a group that throttled opponents the way the Pistons and Spurs have over the years. With the defense far weaker this season (how much of that can be accounted for by the early-season lack of Anderson Varejao?), there really isn't a defined identity here besides "Bron."
- The lackluster supporting cast: Without being a fan of this team, it is hard to really get into this group of role players. Sasha Pavlovic is an interesting commodity and a nice shooter, but he has yet to develop into much more than that. Zyrdrunas Ilgauskas plays a decent game in the middle but isn't a dynamic defender and spends more than his share of time looking for high-post jump shots rather than really posting hard down low. Larry Hughes has been a colossal underachiever, and, as Cavalier Attitude's Amar Panchmatia is all too happy to point out, it can be painful to watch him play, especially on nights when he is forcing shots. Damon Jones and Donyell Marshall have been flops in Cleveland. Daniel Gibson's development is crucial to this team, but watching young guards seems a lot more enticing when those guards have names like "Williams," "Paul," "Roy," "Rondo" and "Felton." Gibson needs to become more fully established before he gets priority. Drew Gooden plays a nice game at the four, but he isn't as athletic as the likes of Antawn Jamison and Sean Williams, and he doesn't have the same lunch-pail appeal of players like Jason Maxiell and Paul Millsap. Further, his production isn't good enough to really establish himself in the upper echelon of power forwards in the league. Anderson Varejao adds some much-needed energy to this team, but he has garnered a reputation around the league as a flopper, and he still has a long way to go to make himself a better all-around player. The guys scrapping in places such as Atlanta, Washington, Indiana, Memphis, New Orleans and Portland seem a lot more intriguing, just to name a few spots. Better athletes, more upside, just as much youth and for a variety of reasons, games that are more fun to watch.
Maybe I'm missing something here. It could be some overriding reason why I can't get into this team. Or it could be some reason that this team should compel me a lot more than it does. But as of now, in a year in which there seem to be more intriguing storylines across the league than ever, watching a team that both went to the Finals last year and currently features LeBron James continues to drop further on my list of priorities this season. And I need a better explanation as to why that is.
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Am I alone in my boredom with the Cavs? Or is there a growing sentiment? Feel free to send in your comments and let us know where you stand on this year's edition of the Cleveland Cavaliers and the level of intrigue they generate.
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The Cavs have an identity, they’re a great defensive squad. That’s their identity.
I wouldn’t read too much into those numbers this early in the season. Until about a couple of weeks ago San Antonio were one of the worst defensive teams in the league. The stats need time and large samples to show what they show.
The Cavs defense has picked up in recent games. It’s really turned up another level. Getting all their pieces back (Sasha, Andy) and healthy (Hughes, Bron) is the biggest reason. Their defense will continue to get back on track and get stronger over the coming weeks.
But they do lack is an offensive identity … right now it’s get LeBron the ball and get out of his way
steve, as you said, there’s really no compelling storyline there.
i’d rather watch a train-wreck that’s the ny knicks to hear the “fire isaiah” chants and see the nth time isaiah tries a different starting lineup to no avail.
besides lebron, the only fun guy to watch in that team is varejao. there’s just too many players that either bore or annoy me in cleveland, notably hughes, ilgauskas, and damon jones.
has no one told hughes what a horrible jumpshooter he is? koz apparently he thinks he’s not since he continues to take them freely instead of taking it hard to the basket. btw is he still being baby-talked to by mike brown? remember last year in the finals when mike brown (afraid of hurting hughes’ feelings) refused not to replace an injured hughes in the starting lineup.
ilgauskas began the season better but seems to have returned to his usual nonchalant self. he gets my vote as the most boring cleveland player.
what about damon jones? he’s not playing, yet he bugs me. the guy acts he’s still all that after just that one good year in miami and that was 3 seasons ago.
lebron made up for all the suckiness by piling up triple-doubles in earlier games. but we’re right about time in the season when lebron brings it down several notches. not to fault lebron, lebron coasting is just his coping mechanism to get through yet another season with mediocre supporting players and coaching.
by tanner on Jan 2, 2008 5:16 AM EST reply actions
last year, i thought they stank and thought they would be the 1st team eliminated in the playoffs. surprize! this year, i appreciate them more. lebron is simply the best. varajao is one of a kind. the rest are dull role players, but when they all play their roles in concert with lebron, they are surpizingly efficient.
I’ve watched several Cavs games this season and I have to disagree on Ilgauskas. He’s playing very well and is a big reason the Cavs didn’t sink further with the rest of the cast under-performing. They still have the same pieces essentially as last year, and that still might be good enough to make a playoff run if Coach Brown gets them on the same page defensively.
Most people seem to see a trade in Cleveland’s future with Andre Miller or Mike Bibby the prime targets. Drew Gooden would probably be leaving in any deal as no one seems to want anything to do with Hughes.
James has got a long way to go to his opt-out year. Danny Ferry won’t wait past the trading deadline if the team still appears to be stuck in neutral. His primary job description must be to keep James happy.
by lemonadesky on Jan 2, 2008 7:55 AM EST reply actions
The Cavs are unbearable to watch because of how the primadonna is “officiated”. He can take one dribble from halfcourt en route to a dunk and not be traveling. He can shoot without anyone within five feet of him and still go to the line.
There’s a three-tier standard for officiating. The primadonna gets officiated one way. The next tier, (Nash, Pierce, thugster, Anthony, Tank Carter, McGrady, and Kobe) get officiated another way, and everybody else has the rulebook applied to them unless they are guarding one of the above.
It’s beyond ridiculous and the fact that James is so ridiculously talented and doesn’t need the help doesn’t seem to phase Stern. But it makes them unbearable for me to watch unless they’re playing us.
Who,
Thanks for bringing up Mike Brown: I meant to give him a mention also.
My two issues with Brown are the offense — although in fairness, the players except one aren’t the world’s greatest — and his occasional temper flare-ups, which seem to occur at times when they simply don’t need to be happening. The fact that at times last season, he also seemed to be losing Bron didn’t help. He is supposed to be an excellent defensive coach, and the Cavs were ranked fourth in efficiency last season, so perhaps we overstate how bad he is. What I’ve heard around the basketball community is that he would make a great assistant coach somewhere (think Thibodeau) but shouldn’t be leading a team.
That said, they have been very successful with Brown in town, and that is the bottom line. That team doesn’t beat the Spurs last year no matter who is coaching it, so perhaps we should cut him some slack for the job done overall.
-sw
tanner,
Thanks for writing in, and it’s funny you bring up the Knicks, as they are in my mind the polar opposite of this Cleveland team. They are an atrocious team going nowhere fast, and I couldn’t agree with you more about my level of interest in them. In fact, in the week or two before I moved to CelticsBlog, I went so far as to write a piece back over at Taking it to the Rack explaining my theorizing that the Knicks are the most compelling team in basketball. The link is below, and I would be curious to hear thoughts on it if you got a chance to take a look:
http://mvn.com/nba-source/2007/11/27/the-nbas-most-compelling-team-tittr-says-its-the-bockers/
Watching Hughes has been and continues to be a painful experience for me as well. I thought he was frustrating last year when he shot 40 percent from the field and 33 percent from deep while shooting 13 shots per game. This year? He is down to 32 percent from the floor and 26 percent from deep, and he is still taking nearly 11 shots per game. He clearly overrates his own worth as a jump shooter and doesn’t focus enough on getting to the rim and really wreaking havoc with penetration.
As you may have heard, Damon Jones made some news recently by refusing to enter a game when Brown attempted to insert him in garbage time with just over a minute to play. He then made some comments in the paper about how much he would love to return to Miami given the success they had when he was there with Shaq and Wade (sadly, he’s right that he probably would be a good fit there, although that by no means justifies him for opening his mouth while employed by Cleveland). Subsequently fined by the team.
In some regards, it seems sometimes like it isn’t even good enough for Bron to be very good-to-excellent on a night-to-night basis for this team. He needs to be “otherworldly out-of-his-mind great” to really give them a shot to win most nights. Or it least it feels that way. Makes LeBron more fun to watch, but reflects sadly on this team.
Thanks again for your comments, and I look forward to hearing more from you.
-sw
iowa plowboy,
“Thugster Anthony” and “Tank Carter.” Awesome. Couldn’t sum up my sentiments about those two players any better than you just did. Well played, sir.
Given your comments about the officiating (which are valid), I would guess you didn’t enjoy the 2006 Finals much then either?
While the complaints are legit, this isn’t something that is new to the league; did you have as much of a problem with it when the catering was to MJ in the time before Bron?
-sw
lemonadesky,
Fair point about Z — somehow, I managed not to realize that he is averaging 10 boards a game right now, a quantum leap forward from his production in that department over the past two seasons.
I have heard the rumblings about ‘Dre Miller and Bibby for a while now, but it’s hard to figure out what to make of them when one figures that this team seems to have very little to offer aside from possibly Gooden. What more do they need to throw in to get a deal done? Is it enough for one of the teams with a piece that could help them? And how likely is it that they will end up badly overpaying (in talent or money) for whoever they acquire? All of those questions seem extremely valid with this team.
Are there any moves that make particular sense/seem more possible to you? I would be interested in your thoughts on this.
-sw
nazzbo,
No questions here about Bron, and the consensus seems to be that Varejao is the next player of interest on that team. That in mind, the guys around Bron aren’t playing their roles the way they need to in order for this team successful. It is why their efficiency in all areas of the game is down, and perhaps it is a reason that I don’t find them all that enjoyable to watch.
-sw
When watching the Cavs, I can’t help but think of the what-if’s? What if the Bucks weren’t intent on matching any offer sheet for Michael Redd and the Cavs were able to acquire him instead of Larry Hughes? What if Carlos Boozer had honored the contract he had initially agreed to? It seems to me that a team that featured LeBron, Boozer, and Redd as their “Big 3” would be a force to be reckoned with. Now I can only get the feeling that this team has missed it’s opportunity to put a championship cast around LeBron who holds the keys to the kingdom in his hand with his short deal. It’s hard to blame the Cavaliers because I’m sure both Boozer and Redd were their first choices of players to surround LeBron with and they showed a willingness to spend money on what was available (Hughes, Marshall, Jones, etc). Can you really say that any other high-priced free agents in the last few years have worked out substantially better than those guys? The reality of the league is that marquee players very rarely become available as free agents and teams are left with short windows in which they must act quickly to build a title contender in fear of watching their young building blocks finagle their way out of town. The Cavs are now left to hope for a miracle development or they will probably see LeBron ride off into the sunset with ever hanging a banner in the Q. Nonetheless, Outside of the Pistons, LeBron and his Cavs remain in my mind the biggest Eastern Conference threat to end the Celt’s push for banner 17. The mere thought of what LeBron did the Pistons in that series by himself, makes me both afraid and excited to watch. No matter how lousy LeBron’s supporting cast plays, he alone makes that team dangerous. Unfortunately, they will probably never be considered “favorites” to do anything again in the Eastern Conference with their current lot of players, just a team with a puncher’s chance. Think the Minnesota Twins matching up in a playoff series with the Yanks or Sox and needing Johan Santana to win 2 or 3 games all by himself. This pointalone, I find both sad and compelling at the very same time.
by ASmith on Jan 2, 2008 11:43 AM EST reply actions
On Mike Brown
He might just be the best defensive coach in the league today. The job he’s done turning some weak-to-ordinary defensive players into a top defensive team … just incredible.
He might just also be the single worst offensive coach in the league. In fact I can’t think of anyone that has consistently done less with the talent they have than Mike Brown.
And he has more than enough offensive talent. Hughes was a 20ppg slasher. Z is a 15-18ppg post presence. Gooden is well capabale of getting 15 points a night. Fun exercise whenever you watch the Cavs …. watch the number of touches Gooden and Z get in the post and watch the surprise on their faces when they actually get the pass. Then watch an old Larry Hughes game from GSW or Washington and see how he was successul, then look at any Cavs game and his struggles are right there.
Then watch Damon Jones who despite playing well is continually shot down and onto the bench. Look at difference from Miami to Cleveland.
It’s all about the types of touches the Cavs players get. That’s where their struggles are coming from and that’s on the coaching staff.
Terrible coach offensively. He has to hand those duties off, he just can’t do it. He has more than enough to work with. They shouldn’t be this bad offensively, especially with the leap LeBron has taken this season.
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Mike Brown by the way is one of my favourite assistant coaches in the league. I loved the work he did with Stephen Jackson, how he molded Jacks into an NBA player during Jacks first season in San An while Jacks wasn’t getting a lick of playing time.
He isn’t head coach material right now. He just can’t coach offense and he won’t bring in someone to help him. Shame.
It was odd to see LeBron say negative things about Brown, while an assistant coach he was much admired for the relationships he built with players.

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