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Playing KG: the right call?

As we all know, Kevin Garnett came up huge in the closing seconds of last night's game.  The steal on Telfair was a thing of beauty, and although I think the celebration might have been a little over the top, I've got to admit to being pumped after the game last night.  KG gets major props for being a proverbial warrior; after leaving the game with an abdominal injury, he came back in with two minutes left and grabbed two big rebounds, and had the aforementioned steal.

All's well that ends well, right?  Or is it?  Should we be considering whether it was prudent to have KG in the game at all?  Should we have any sort of concern from Mark Murphy's morning Boston Herald article?

[W]hen Garnett went to the locker room with 6:19 left in last night’s 87-86 win over Minnesota after doubling over in pain on the floor, his trouble became everyone else’s panic. ...

... "It felt like I got sniped from the rafters or something," Garnett said of the initial pain. "I had a sharp pain come from my stomach, and I wanted the doctors to look at it. They said I was fine, so I came back out.

"I wasn’t going to do anything that would jeopardize my future and all that, but my philosophy has always been that if I can play, if I can run, if I can move, if I can blink, if I can wake up in the morning, I’m going to play".

... "I wasn’t going to put him back in," said Celts coach  Doc Rivers. "I’m getting a thumbs up from Dr. (Brian) McKeon and a thumbs down from (trainer) Eddie Lacerte, and it’s just crazy. And Kevin was just psycho.

"It was a tough call to make," he said. "I didn’t want to put him back in, and he was begging, ‘Please do it, please.’ I was going to err on the side of caution."

Murphy goes on to add that "Garnett’s closing play considered, [erring on the side of caution] would have been a mistake."  Is that necessarily true, though?  As has been said, it's a long season.  The Celtics are 34-7, and even if they had lost last night, they would be 33-8, five fewer losses than anybody else in the Eastern Conference.  Is it worth playing KG against the advice of the team trainer, just to try to pick up one additional win?  Is this any different than when many of us had previously called for Ray Allen or Rajon Rondo to get extended rest, even if it cost us a few games in the standings?

Of course, the counter-point to all of that is that last night's game was a big one.  Coming into the game, the Celtics had lost four of their last eight games, all of them to supposedly inferior teams.  The Celtics were in danger of losing to the team with the worst record in the NBA, at home, in a game that many players and fans were emotionally invested in.  A loss like that can no doubt be more damaging that the average one; the hurt the team would have felt wouldn't have been in the standings, but rather psychologically.  For Garnett especially, last night's game likely had added meaning, despite his repeated statements to the contrary.  Had the game been lost, would it have hurt the team's confidence?

In a vacuum, and without the benefit of hindsight, I think I would have sat KG in those circumstances.  He's much too important to this team's success this year, and I wouldn't want to see a player aggravate an injury that could hold him out for a substantial period of time, all in the name of potentially winning one more game.  However, basketball isn't played in a vacuum, and I'm sure Doc was persuaded by KG's insistence, by the crowd, and by a strong desire to win. 

In these circumstances, then, does Doc deserve criticism for putting a player at risk just to win a meaningless game?  Does he get credit for having faith in his player in a crucial situation, and re-energizing a team that was on the ropes?   Does the fact that the team won render any such conversation moot?  I'm not 100% positive on these questions, but man, that sure was a sweet steal.

 

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It’s a tough call for any coach but I think playing KG, having him lead us to the close win over his old team and the emotional lift it gave himself and the rest of our guys made it the right decision in retrospect.

Doc had to have taken Kevin’s unique personality and psyche into account here, he probably read how badly the man needed to return and win this one and it might have been a detriment to KG if Doc held him back in that emotional state, even with valid concerns over possibly making a minor injury worse. The season of course is a marathon and not a sprint but I for one am glad Doc trusted Kevin’s assessment of his own body in this particular situation and I cannot fault him for making a risky move that ended up paying off.

by NYDan on Jan 26, 2008 2:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We don’t want Doc and KG to be on different pages. If we lose that game and KG wakes up this morning perfectly fine, there is going to be some resentment on KG’s end. If KG tweaked that minor injury at all, he will be criticized here a ton. So it was a very, very tough decision for Doc to make so he made it the player’s call which is exactly what I would’ve done.

by jdpapa3 on Jan 26, 2008 2:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t necessarily label that one a “meaningless” game…yes, in the big picture I understand that phrase. However, this was more than just “any” game – it was pretty big. Maybe if they’re playing, say Memphis, KG sits…but I don’t think he was going to ask out of a game that was a little bigger than most.

by Andy Jick on Jan 26, 2008 2:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t question the decision, I’m just wondering if, going forward, KG is going to have to miss time. Abdominal strains are not something that you want to mess with – they can be nagging thigs. Or, am I mistaking an abdominal strain with a pulled abdominal muscle. They are different things, are they not? Can a strain be aggragated into a pull? I’m just curious if we’re gonna see KG miss time over the upcoming week – or beyond. Anyone have insight?

by libermaniac on Jan 26, 2008 2:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Couldn’t wait … actually did my own research.

http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/sprainsstrains/a/abdominal.htm

It appears as if a strain is a pull, and it depends on the Grade of the injury as to how bad it is. I wouldnt’ be at all surprised to see KG shut down for a week or more. I remember John Offerdahl, ex Miami linebacker, missing almost a whole season with a pulled abdominal muscle … you don’t want to mess with these things. Perhaps the bright side of this, is, if KG misses time, Ainge might realize he does need to sign a legit backup Center – as Powe and Big Baby against Dwight Howard tomorrow is gonna be painful to watch. I’m hoping I’m being overly pessimistic, but preparing for a few games without KG.

by libermaniac on Jan 26, 2008 2:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with “Andy Jick.” If the game the was actually meaningless, then Garnett wouldn’t have been out there. The Cs have been slumping a bit lately and perhaps Doc thought that a boost in confidence would be key.

by Toine43 on Jan 26, 2008 6:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

doc has been wisely very conservative with injured players this year. while kg has not lost his hops, at his age, the body heals itself at a slower rate than before. i don’t fault kg or doc for putting him back into the wolves game. it’s nice to have hindsight.

by nazzbo on Jan 26, 2008 7:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Garnett seemed fine when he came back in. Do you know how pissed he would have been at Doc if he wasn’t allowed back in?

by DannyZ on Jan 26, 2008 9:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

jdpapa3 said:
  We don’t want Doc and KG to be on different pages. If we lose that game and KG wakes up this morning perfectly fine, there is going to be some resentment on KG’s end. If KG tweaked that minor injury at all, he will be criticized here a ton. So it was a very, very tough decision for Doc to make so he made it the player’s call which is exactly what I would’ve done.

I agree with you. I don’t think the call was made in the interest of winning the game, but a coach needs to respect a players desires (within reason), especially one who has given as much as KG has given (the intangibles). We shouldn’t analyze this to death. We don’t know what the problem was other than he was in severe pain (but he did get over it quickly). There has been some hints that this had been going on awhile. It also works the other way. If a player says he’s unable to play, the coach needs to respect that decision also. This is not clear cut. It could be that KG had prior MRI’s or CT’s that didn’t show anything. But these tests often show nothing even if a real problem exists or is developing.

by TrueGreen on Jan 27, 2008 9:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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