When Will This Train Slow Down?
I'm not trying to be a downer, but I can't help but wonder when this train is going to slow down a bit. The law of averages, historical data, and common sense all indicate that no matter how good a team this is, they can't keep up this pace for the whole season. You have to consider that the bounce of the ball (ie. fickle fate) alone could cost the team a game or two here or there. To wit, consider Peter May's rundown of our record:
The Celtics are 29-3. Take a step back and reflect on that utterly astonishing record. They could go .500 the rest of the way - which would be a dramatic dropoff from the way they are playing - and still finish with 54 wins. They are (a) a Paul Pierce 3-pointer (which he's been known to make on occasion), (b) two Ray Allen free throws (money) and (c) a silly Tony Allen foul from possibly being 32-0. Conversely, they also are (a) a Sam Vincent brain cramp (a beauty), (b) a Dwyane Wade jumper (which he's been known to make on occasion), and (c) some Chauncey Billups free throws (money) from being 26-6.
Don't get me wrong, I prefer 29-3 to 26-6, but the latter number just seems to make more sense. Again, as May points out, we haven't played a lot of the better Western teams yet.
Will the next loss come as soon as Wednesday night? I could see a letdown occur after the Pistons game against a team that played us to the wire the last time (it took a miracle steal, pass, and 3 pointer to win it). Or I could see the team splitting the home-away back-to-back games with the Wizards (even without Gilbert Blogger). In fact, there's not a lot of teams to "get up" for in the month of January except for Orlando and Dallas.
We also have been very healthy (knock on wood) so far this year. I can't help but wonder if some of our 30-somethings are going to need the occasional few games off to rest their bodies and heal from various minor injuries (like Ray Allen did recently). I would actually welcome that if it meant they would be healthy and fresh for the playoffs.
You have to think that the effort it would take to break the regular season record for wins would be more trouble than it is worth. You never play not to win but you don't have to break your neck to win 72 games when 60 or 62 will give you home court advantage in the playoffs. Keep playing the young guys long enough minutes to give the vets some rest. And don't be afraid to play them in clutch situations. Some days they'll fail (like Tony going for a pump fake or Rondo getting timid) but other times they'll come up huge (like Big Baby in the last game) and both outcomes will teach the team valuable lessons for the Spring.
This regular season record is worthless without following through when it counts. I don't care about the Bulls' record, I want the Bulls' rings. I don't think a losing streak is in the cards for this team. KG and the team defense just wouldn't allow it. I just think that as fans we should expect an occasional loss here or there.
Update: If you are still searching for things to complain about, here's a pretty good list.
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its hard deciding what you want in this situation. Yeah you dont want the guys getting injured and worn out trying to get 73 wins. But you want them to take pride in their D and learn the discipline of staying focused for 48min even against crap teams.
How about we literally cruise to 73 wins and then beat Detroit and then the Spurs in an epic?
:)
by 00dc2 on Jan 8, 2008 7:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m going Wednesday night.
The only other game I’ve been to this season is the loss to Detroit.
Please, don’t lose Wednesday night…I’ll feel like a jinx.
Seriously though, this Celtics team is NOT the Mavs.
This Celtics team has personality, guts, heart, character and hootzpa.
Sure, they’ll lose games here and there.
Perhaps the record isn’t the goal, but with this squad, it could happen.
by mcpu40 on Jan 8, 2008 8:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Keep playing the young guys long enough minutes to give the vets some rest. And don’t be afraid to play them in clutch situations. Some days they’ll fail (like Tony going for a pump fake or Rondo getting timid) but other times they’ll come up huge (like Big Baby in the last game) and both outcomes will teach the team valuable lessons for the Spring.
I think Doc has done this and did with the Detroit game. I think that is a large part of why Tony Allen was in there at crucial junctures because this team is going to need Tony Allen and Big Baby come playoff time. Not that the fan outcry has ever impacted the choices Doc has made, but did you notice how many fans (just on this board) posted questions about Doc having Tony in the game at that time? And how he was criticized for having Tony in during the last game?
I agree whole heartedly that I would much rather see some losses on the record if they came at the cost of 25-30min for Allen, Garnett, and Pierce, a night and extended minutes for BB, Tony Allen, and a couple of more bench guys.
by tmcdon on Jan 8, 2008 8:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The NJ game could be challenging as their new front line has been playing well. This could be a physical game….but aren’t they all these days..
by Rick Robeys Return on Jan 8, 2008 8:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load. The horse looks strong, seems to pull pretty good but……..
“A preoccupation with the future not only prevents us from seeing the present as it is but often prompts us to rearrange the past.”
What day is it?
by Master Po on Jan 8, 2008 9:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Last team to win with the league’s best record?
San Antonio in 2003 when they tied with Dallas. LA in 2001 the last who held the regular season record outright and the championship.
There’s at least a dozen ways to look at that … something to think on
by Who on Jan 8, 2008 9:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think they should let up until they have home court locked up for the playoffs or until that situation is out of their control.
and this team is not the mavs. KG would rip Dirk’s heart out in a 7 game series. also, pierce is playing his best basketball maybe ever and that’s way better than anybody on the mavs. and oh yeah, we have ray allen too. no, barring disaster (or LeBron) you can punch our ticket to the EC finals.
by reggie35 on Jan 8, 2008 9:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Boy, what a difference a year makes.
Think of our posts 365 days ago.
by mcpu40 on Jan 8, 2008 10:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
No reason to complain, really….
We have such a great team at the moment (MOMENT) and looking at Minnesota right now with 4 wins is heartbreaking because those were our kids……and that could have been us again all over again, heading for another Lottery Pick and probably Paul Pierce sulking to be traded about now if this team was intact…
This team is in a nice groove at the moment. Believe it or not they are still trying to find themselves……
They are a team in “Heat” LOL and running on all cyclinders…..
The emotion that they are showing is great and I love the energy…..
The one area that will come into play come playoff time is there
u]COMPSURE !!![/u]
by Ancient Red on Jan 8, 2008 10:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think we need to worry or think about number of wins, burning out, getting the best record, rotations, pg’s, etc. This team is totally focused on getting better. Whether they win or lose the talk is about what they did wrong and how can they improve. This is the atitude that will carry them thru and I don’t see it changing because of the people involved.
by TrueGreen on Jan 8, 2008 10:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota has no superstar, that’s why they stink.
by mcpu40 on Jan 8, 2008 11:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
As Ian Anderson sang, “And the train it won’t stop going no way to slow down.”
by The Real Large James on Jan 8, 2008 12:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
54 wins? I’d take it. I think the C’s can get to 60 easily, but we’ll see. I do expect a slowdown in the 2nd half, if only because all the bubble teams are going to come out fighting for their playoff lives. They won’t be able to say ’it’s a long season’ after the All Star break.
I think the Big Three will be fine for the playoffs. Minutes or not, these guys don’t have to come out stressed every night. Ray doesn’t have to think about scoring 30 to win. That’s a huge burden lifted. KG doesn’t have to grab 20 boards, score 25, get 10 assists & block shots. As for Pierce, he’s a changed player. Getting up on D, making GREAT plays for teammates, scoring when needed and grabbing boards. He’s a more complete player than ever. Doc seems to be making an effort to manage minutes and develop the bench, and so far it’s working. Give Doc some props. It must be incredibly difficult to get KG to sit for ANY amount of time, except for the end of a blowout game.
The good thing is The C’s are seeing results. Ray, PP & KG aren’t pouring it all out only to lose 2 out of 3 games. That’s got to make them feel good.
by LuckyNumber07 on Jan 8, 2008 12:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think tony Allen’s defense causes other teams more trouble, than the trouble his point guard mishaps cause us. And I think this team’s togetherness comes from its defense.
Bringing in Cassel? Even though there is an argument about backup point guard skills, I would be concerned a drop off in the Team mindset. Secondly, other teams now clearly know our weakness. I think the celts can, and will make adjustments. And I think that will make them a better “Team”. This team may really prefer to win Together with who they have, or loose together. And given how little time they have played together, you have to wonder just how great they are going to get.
by Bozo on Jan 8, 2008 12:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
responded to the wrong topic….sorry about that
by Bozo on Jan 8, 2008 12:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Regarding this topic, as this team plays together they will get better, and better. I suspect they will relax some, but still win.
by Bozo on Jan 8, 2008 12:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would be a little more concerned if they were struggling every game to win. Many of the games they have been able to build comfortable leads and should be able to continue to do that against the crappy teams. I think Doc is doing a decent job handling minutes. Plus he just gave them 2 days off after the win Saturday night so they can get rest in between games since practice is not a critical as last year.
Let’s face it they are winning games this year because of the improved D and I think their style is going to work well in the playoffs. This is not a Dallas/Phoenix type team that can score but not defend.
I will say I am interested, like most people to see how they do in Feb when they go on the road after the break to Denver, Golden State, Phoenix, Portland and Clips and in March when they head to the Milwaukee, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas and New Orleans
by scooter on Jan 8, 2008 1:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
RE: Trades. Mid season is a GREAT time to improve your team. You can pick up released players or trade for vet help.
Not sure who is out there for PG, but anyone with defense & passing skills is going to be an upgrade over TA & House. House stuggles to bring the ball up under pressure & TA’s a turnover or steal waiting to happen. Tough to watch sometimes. We do need a 3rd center. I’d think Ainge was looking at Mbenga. He was just released by Golden State. He’d a decent 7 footer with playoff experience. For games against teams when you’re burning fouls against big men, he’d be perfect.
by LuckyNumber07 on Jan 8, 2008 1:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The fact is that most of the teams in the NBA are not very good. Even in the vaunted West, there are not that many teams who threaten the Celtics. The top six teams in the West are in any order, San Antonio, Pheonix, Dallas, Portland, Denver, and the Lakers, The Celtics have already beaten the Lakers twice and Denver once. Let’s say they go .500 against the big three of San Antonio, Dallas and Phoenix, and split with Portland and Denver. That is 6-6 against the “big western teams” everyone is always yammering about. Who else are they going to lose to? I don’t think this team is going to slack off anytime soon. I think they will win at least 65 games and maybe make a run at 72.
by JohnCK on Jan 8, 2008 1:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nets on Friday and Wizards on Saturday scare me. These will be tough road games against teams playing pretty well recently. We need Ray Allen to step up in these games.
by DJ to Bird on Jan 8, 2008 1:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well it sure did the Bulls good. Just because Dallas last year was an exception does not mean that every team is going to be in trouble if they keep on a exceptional pace of winning.
by NoraG1 on Jan 8, 2008 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

























