It’s between Sammy and Darius in my mind. The rest have shown enough to deserve their roster spots.

I expect Sam will be the one to stay. Doc will like having another veteran off the bench that he can call upon.

Here’s another option (scroll to bottom):

http://lexnihilnovi.blogspot.com/2008/09/scalabrine-sweepstakes-begin.html

Scalabrine hasn’t shown enough to earn his roster spot. Maybe they ought to make him an assistant coach too.

I wouldn’t cut Miles. He has too much talent. And Pruitt is showing promise. At least he stays in front of his man, which is something Cassell struggles to do these days.

I think they are showcasing Pruitt to trade him for a future pick.

Yay, Sam Cassell and Master Po on the same picture…classic!

They can’t move Pruitt. Pruitt can play. If talent were the sole criteria, Scal would be gone. Why can’t they just eat the $3mil? They must have made enough money in the playoffs to afford doing that.

Danny did not go out and get Cassell. He basically let him go. Cassell tried Denver. Could not find a taker. And then kind of pushed the “agreement” with the Celtics by going public with it being a done deal. We hear no response from management. Finally Danny acknowledges that we are likely going to sign Cassell. Which still does not happen for some weeks. We hear very little fanfare around the singing, rather Cassell shows up and participates with the club. Doc notes that Pruitt has to beat out either House or Cassell, but we could likely carry 4 points. We have yet to see him play a preseason game. We hear he is coaching Pruitt. Until I see him logging minutes in the preseason (which could occur in the next game), I would say Pruitt is proving himself at the point, and Cassell is assuming the role of coach. (with the option to play if needed)

Bozo said: Danny did not go out and get Cassell. He basically let him go. Cassell tried Denver. Could not find a taker. And then kind of pushed the “agreement” with the Celtics by going public with it being a done deal. We hear no response from management. Finally Danny acknowledges that we are likely going to sign Cassell.

I doubt that Danny makes decisions by reading what others say in the newspapers. Sam can do certain things, such as posting up opposing guards, which none of our other points can do. He can also go on a hot shooting streak which only Eddie House can do. Signing Sam gives us options. I also wouldn’t underestimate the importance of Sam’s influence on Pruitt who seems to listen to him. As fans in Boston we see Sam as an ego-centric player who once he gets the ball only lets it go toward the basket. I don’t know what he’s really like and I doubt many others on this blog do either. KG likes him as a person and so does Doc. I see him fooling around with Ray Allen. We’ll just need to wait and see who gets the 16th roster spot.

This team does not need Cassell, as a coach or player, sorry but anyone who would be disspaointed in him getting cut did not watch the playoffs

birdbrain
Cassell has already been part of a repeat…so I take back my previous comment and him being around the team wont be as bad for that simple reason..he knows what it takes to be on a team that repeats

Two reasons for Cassell to play some this year.. First he has the ability to post up smaller guards. Second he and Perk are the only players on our team who will give a real hard foul when the game gets nasty. Sure he shoots to much but he didnt know the offense that well last year. I would say have him coach the beginning of the year but still continue to practice with the team and be avaibable to play if neededed after Febuary.

Gabe Pruitt is playing too well to cut. Cassell and his bad back can grab a clipboard. Cut Scalabrine and make a roster spot available for PJ in Feb. for the play off run:

PG: Rondo, House, Pruitt (TA in a pinch)

SG: Ray Ray, TA, House, Giddens (Pruitt in a pinch)

SF: PP, B-Walker, D-Miles, TA, Giddens & BIG BABY (yes, ha can play SF

PF: KG, Powe, BBD, Perk

C: Perk, POB, Powe, BBD & PJ in Feb. of 09

Very versitle crew that can go finesse or physical. Every postition can play D too.

we can classify scal and his contract as danny’s biggest mistake. so we keep him but he is the weakest link. keep sam as a coach and keep pruitt and miles and send giddens to the farm.

I’ve said it before, either way we still eat Scal’s $6.6M salary. We have both JR and Scal under contract. Whether Scal gets paid sitting at home or on the bench he’s nothing more than a practice player.
If it is in the Celts best interest to have JR play D-league then fine Scal stays. But if it is in the best interest of the Celts to have JR work with the big team then let Scal go for crying out loud.

The fallacy is we aren’t saving $6.6M you pay the dude either way. The ultimate question is what is best for the 12th guy on the bench. Like Pruitt last year, more beneficial to be with the big boys or D-League? That’s the only question that matters. This losing $6.6M by cutting Scal is a ridiculous argument.

Yes, that’s the argument for keeping Sdcalabrine. But is that trade asset worth cutting a good young player? Or a player like Miles who might mean the difference between a championship and no championship? Miles can still play.

Player Coach Sam we loose a guard to injury Sam takes his place.

I have been VERY impressed with Gabe Pruitt. The Poise, the attitude. He looked like an NBA player! I’d still like Darius Miles to make it. Cassell is now that odd man out here. Posey’s absence to me, has still been noticeable. I hope that is not a bad sign.

i still hope darius miles makes the team .and i think he can help us win

I don’t know the answer for sure, but let’s say the trade scenario works down the road. It is Scal and Baby and their $4M for a valued player in the same price range so trade #s work. Can’t we temporarily activate Scal and make the trade work? Didn’t Philly do something like that with Chris Webber?

In no way, shape, or form is somebody going out to grab Scal IMO. A rookie making less than $500,000 can do all what he does and more; plus have upside potential.

Like I said either way Scal gets his $6.6M. What should be most imperative is what is best for the young bubble guy on our roster- bench, D-league, or cut. There is no savings by keeping Scal, definitely not $6.6M. At best a youngster like JR gets moved off the big team but we are also under contract to him for $1M for 2 or 3 years.

Trade Scal to Sactown with Big Baby for Sheldon Williams.

The most simple scenarios are cutting Miles or Sam.

Another is cutting Scal – I don’t believe that both of his remaining years are guaranteed, which makes it less costly.

As for trades, Scal might have minor trade value (as cap filler). All possibilities have to be evaluated. If Miles shows he can play and it appears that POB has shown some signs of being a player then we might have extra bigs. Then trading Big Baby might be an option, possibly to Charlotte who are short on big men.

I’d like to keep Gabe, who seems to have shown signs that he might be an NBA player.

Course, when we get down this far on the roster, does it really make a difference. I think, the biggest thing for a 13-15th player is who has the most potential. I would say Miles or Gabe.

DONT CUT MILES- this guy may not be the explosive scorer he used to be, but he’s showing some nice blocking skills and really gives you size at SF.

Cassell definitely should be a coach, and they can send giddens down to the d-league

Best Roster
Active- 1-KG 2-P-squared 3-Jesus 4-Beast-rick Perkins 5- Rondo’d 6.Tony Allen 7. Mean Leon Powe 8. POB (beast backup) 9. House M.D. 10. Big Baby 11. D-Miles 12. Pruitt
Inactive- 13. Scal, there’s no way they eat his salary like he eats potatoes.
D-League- 14. Skywalker 15. Giddens
Then after 10 or so games, after punishing portland, you can either cut D-miles or make a trade to bring up Skywalker if he lights up the d-league (which I assume he will)

docextension said:
  I’ve said it before, either way we still eat Scal’s $6.6M salary. We have both JR and Scal under contract. Whether Scal gets paid sitting at home or on the bench he’s nothing more than a practice player.
If it is in the Celts best interest to have JR play D-league then fine Scal stays. But if it is in the best interest of the Celts to have JR work with the big team then let Scal go for crying out loud.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but a player that goes to the D-League is still counted on the Celtics roster. So the above scenario cannot work.

This is a question—-If we cut Scals does it cost us his salary plus the luxury tax on his salary? Also, when is Scal’s contract up?

truegreen, you are wrong. roster is 15. active roster for a game is 12.

celticsforlupper said:
  truegreen, you are wrong. roster is 15. active roster for a game is 12.

I probably didn’t express myself clearly. I was trying to say that a player who goes to the D-League is still counted on the 15 man roster. So whether a player goes to D-League or not, one player will still need to be cut (roster now at 16). Am I correct on this? I do agree that Miles should stay based on what we’ve seen so far. Hopefully he’ll get some more playing time the next few games. I’m ambivelent about Scals. He does things defensively that the average fan doesn’t notice, but he makes mistakes offensively that he should not be making. It will be interesting to see what Danny does.