If it’s truly a case of inadequate conditioning, then why wouldn’t the Celtics be prepared to keep Miles on the squad and to get him ready by playoff time? The regular season is just something to play through; to get the team ready and positioned for another run at the title.

Ha! Boston.com has a survey asking which of 6 listed Celtics players should be the one to go—and Miles isn’t even on their list.

I was really hoping the guy could ease the pain of losing James Posey. Not so much in talent (they are two different players) but in Energy and someone that could have been depended upon off the bench. I do feel somewhat better that guys like Tony Allen and Gabe Pruitt look like the are up to the task (to ease the Posey loss). Maybe Darius Miles can turn it around in the last 3 games, but if he does not, I think we can be happy with out current line up.

Miles did not look good, but Pruitt did. Let’s see how Cassell plays tonight against the Knicks.

While I agree Miles hasn’t looked good, I don’t think scouring the box scores is the way to show he has or hasn’t played well. We all know that the Celtics are not looking for big scoring out of him, especially early, but want him to be more of a team player, running the system, playing defense, etc. If you don’t/can’t watch the game, it is impossible to determine how much Miles is helping the offense flow, or playing team defense, running the floor, etc. all things that don’t have stats that show up in the box score. Personally, from watching him move, it looks like Miles has a ways to go, but I don’t come to that conclusion from the # of points he has or hasn’t scored in the preseason.

I am not ready to give up on Miles yet. He has been inactive for a couple of years and it takes more than a training camp to get the juices flowing in the right direction.
Give him till the end of the year, it isn’t a lot of money and could pay big dividends in the post season.

Look how long we have been patient with TA and his health problems.

The box scores don’t tell the whole story. He simply isn’t a NBA athlete at this point. It was pretty evident after his first 3 minutes of play, IMO.

I’ve always found the idea of cutting Scal or Cassell, considering the bench we have, amusing, to put it gently.

As Miles currently is, he is not a good small forward. I’d keep him around as a PF with hopes of him getting in better shape as the season goes along to be able to play a usable SF. I think he can make an interesting PF given the chance and used right.

Jeff your last comment is what matters. It was way too optimistic to assume that Pruitt, O’Bryant, Walker, Giddens, and Miles were all going to earn their roster spots. I saw enough good from Giddens last night to make me believe that he is a keeper which makes four out of five. That’s pretty good. Not for Miles, but for the Celtics.

I don’t think keeping him to put the salary hit back on Portland is compelling enough but Danny is playing a hot hand, exec-wise, so whatever he decides is all right with this fan.

About Pruitt, I thought he looked very good. Calm ball control, good defense and nice shooting touch both with floaters and 3 pt shots.

Scal had a GREAT game yesterday and the defense we were expecting of Darius was actually supplied by Scal. Forget the scoring when evaluating Miles but do notice that he stands around too much, doesn’t seem to have a nose for the ball, is out of shooting rhythm, doesn’t have the hops we expected and simply doesn’t look look an important addition to this team. His defensive positioning is a step too slow and he hasn’t yet learned TEAM defense.

I am disappointed in Darius because I had hoped he would help ease the pain of Posey’s departure.

miles is playing tentatively, but has not been in long stretches, so they’re going slow with him. they definitely will keep scal. not keeping miles is not a killer, neither is keeping him for later. pruitt has to stay. who goes? who knows?

I’d prefer to cut Scal, which won’t happen. The next one in line to be cut is Miles. I would feel differently if he had outplayed Bill Walker, but that hasn’t happened. Miles just isn’t very good. He relied purely on athleticism pre-injury, and although he is long, he isn’t athletic. And who’s to say his game will improve as his conditioning improves? It’s just as likely that his knee will become more troublesome as his activity increases. And I couldn’t care less about screwing Portland.

Like Roy said- he was average at best even when healthy. I never understood why so many people think he is/was a potential star. He was never even remotely close to making an allstar team. His game was more in line with a rookie year Tony Allen.

Miles has not been able to jog on a treadmill consistently for two years, let alone play basketball at a profesional level. He has shown the requisite athletiscism to play in the league (are we forgetting the alleyoop?), but I expect LOTS of rust. Heck – Perk has been out for 115 days and looks rusty. Imagine being out for 730?

Scalabrine and Cassel are the only two players on the roster unlikely to contribute positively now or in the future.

Doesn’t Pruitt’s emergence suggest that Cassell should be the one who is gone or coaching? Why would we ever need him when we have 3 capable point guards on the roster. Pruitt is only going to be better by the time the post-season rolls around. When he is in shape, Miles fills the need of that veteran, long 3/4 that can guard athletic players, eat up some fouls, and give Pierce a rest. Giddens or Walker can not be shut down defenders – not cause they can’t do it – but because they are rookies and will never get the calls.

SCREW HIM!!

See ya later scumbag.

We don’t need this guy, he has never been good, and is an awful person.

Well lets be realistic for a moment.

1. Scalabrine “looked good” because he hit two three pointers at the end against NJ’s scrubs. He did not look good earlier in the game.

2. Pruitt “looked good” until the final minute an a half when he made two bonehead plays, including fouling Keyon Dooling on a trey. He’s still a work in progress. Having said that, Pruitt did a better job of defending Devin Harris than Rondo did. Harris could not get around Pruitt.

3. Miles “looked bad” but in a very short stint in which he took 1 shot. His defense was fine.

4. IMHO Big Baby looked pretty good. He’s a better post defender than Powe, but has to learn to get his shot off in traffic like Powe.

5. Powe “lood good” in the second half, but did not play well at all in the first half.

6. Patrick O’Bryant looked bad. This was his worst game of the preseason by far.

7. Rondo looked lost at the beginning of the game. He has to take jump shots when the present themselves. I was not particularly impressed with his performance.

8. Tony Allen and Eddie House looked good— period. Notice (as Doc Rivers has) at Tony always seems to need 2-3 minutes to get his head into the game before he starts doing his thing. After that he plays great basketball. If he’s going to play 20 minutes, they should be consecutive minutes if possible.

It is way to early to give up on a guy who hasnt played in 2 yrs after only this little bit of time and play. If Miles gets his timing down in game play and gets healthier and shakes off the rust , he will be allright and if he really has matured and knows defense is what we want and he provides it , then he is a steal.
I would cut Sam Cassel, he looked washed up last yr and hogged the shot way too much,he also always walked the ball up slowly. He is going to be even slower this yr.
Also Patrick Obryant needs to stop sulking that Perkins is back and start playing ball like he did when he was the starter when Perk was healing. He keeps playing worse and worse since Perk is back. He needs to work hard to earn minutes and be happy with the minutes that he earns or work even harder.

The sentiment is bad but I’d rather take a chance with Miles. Keep him!!!

When Miles came I looked at all the old clips of him. Most of what I saw was based on great athletic ability. I think that is a big hurdle. It would seem he needs to reinvent his style of play to compensate for the athletic ability he has lost. I wish him the best and am hopeful but I don’t really beleive this is going to work out. Sure looking forward to this year and seeing what this rookie class brings.

Well Patrick OBryant must have read my post, :D , so i want to be the first one on here to say great game Patrick OBryant. I dont know if you have a nickname yet but if not your due.