Boycott OKC
I set up a site to Organize a Boycott of the Oklahoma City Thunder. Seattle was robbed by Clay Bennett and David Stern!!!
The url is at www (dot) boycottokc (dot) com.
It's simple, if your team is playing OKC, don't go, don't pay for those tickets. Don't buy any OKC merchandise.
David Stern has lost all credibility as NBA commissioner with the ref scandal and the Seattle debacle. He should have graciously stepped down years ago.
Be respectful and keep it clean. Thanks.
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In a word, ridiculous.
I’ll be in the seats on Nov. 5, and I’m glad Seattle’s apathy led their team to OKC.
What a silly, ill-informed idea.
by CoachBo on
Oct 26, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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I got another word, mis-informed.
If you want to blame the local leaders for being “apathetic” then by all means, they receive plenty of flack around here for it and most will lose their jobs come election time, but to infer that the fans in Seattle didn’t care enough to save our team is frankly insulting.
I hope you never have to endure the pain of losing a favorite team.
by Omerta on
Oct 31, 2008 5:06 AM EDT
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Hey Coach,
Lucky you to have the chance of seeing the C’s playing in your state every season from now on. I was impressed by how the basketball fans of OKC supported the Hornets during their stay there. Great stuff. Have fun seeing the kids (and even more seeing the Celtics beating them!)
Leaving aside the NBA talk for a moment, good luck to you and your team on the upcoming season.
by cordobes on
Oct 26, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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I’d rather see all cities band together and boycott using public funds to build stadiums. Then teams wouldn’t have nearly as much motivation to move and wouldn’t be able to hold cities hostage with the threat of moving.
by Fan from VT on
Oct 26, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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Not buying the merchandise should be easy enough – UG-LY!
what were they thinking?
by cons on
Oct 26, 2008 9:54 PM EDT
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You said it!
And I fully agree.
by Amager Celtic Fan on
Oct 27, 2008 1:12 AM EDT
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Thanks, Cordobes. I think we’ve got a chance to be a little better than I thought, thanks to some transfers.
I’ve been consistently amused about the uncanny sense of entitlement Seattle-ites had about this basketball team. It’s ours. We don’t have to support it. But it’s ours.
OKC supported the Hornets full-bore for two years, and they’ll do it again with this club. I look forward to as many games – including the C’s Nov. 5 – as I can get to. Pretty glad, actually, that the Champs come in before pre-season practice starts.
by CoachBo on
Oct 26, 2008 11:10 PM EDT
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How long is the trip, Coach?
And where are you sitting?
Pretty cool that you’re going…but this means there’s some pressure on you: I’m expecting a full commentary from courtside…
It’s too bad my understanding of geography in the Midwest is so terrible. Originally, I thought this game would be feasible when the move was finalized several months ago, and then I realized that I’m more than 400 miles away. What a dope I am sometimes.
-sw
by Steve Weinman on
Oct 26, 2008 11:56 PM EDT
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You might feel entitled to a team that had been in your city for 41 years as well.
but I have gathered from these posts that you are from or near OKC so I’m sure it makes you feel better thinking that all of us in Seattle sat on our hands while this whole thing played out because we just didn’t give a damn.
by Omerta on
Oct 31, 2008 5:23 AM EDT
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I second everything you said Coach! The Thunder won’t be very good for a while, but I believe they have a good young foundation to build on for the future. It’s hard to believe the C’s will already be here a week from Wednesday!
It will be nice to have NBA games to go to, and a team to cheer for…except for when the Celtics come to town!
by OKC Celtic on
Oct 27, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
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I’m with you on the Oklahoma City strike. They shouldn’t have been granted the Sonics under these circumstances. Seattlites didn’t deserve to go through this whole thing and why is their loyalty questioned before the owner’s? Clay Bennett was all about the money and completely ripped the team out of Seattle for this reason alone.
I’m sure Oklahoma City has a great fanbase and will be tremendous supporters of that team but I can’t support them if they got the team this way. I don’t agree that David Stern should’ve resigned or any of that business but he should have given the Charlotte idea some more thought. Now that’s a bad fanbase yet they are rewarded over Oklahoma City?
Just ugly all around.
by Employee8 on
Oct 27, 2008 10:32 PM EDT
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I'll buy parts of that except for this:
I’m sure Oklahoma City has a great fanbase and will be tremendous supporters of that team but I can’t support them if they got the team this way
What did ‘they’ do wrong? The idea of not supporting what Clay Bennett did is one thing – although I’ll admit I profess to be no expert on what went on in Seattle. But it certainly seems odd to question a fan base that did what any other in the country would have done – accepted a team that fell in its lap. What’s wrong with that?
-sw
by Steve Weinman on
Oct 27, 2008 11:30 PM EDT
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Do you accept a TV knowing that your brother stole for you from the local recreation center? Sports and ethics aren’t separated.
by Employee8 on
Oct 28, 2008 7:42 AM EDT
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Again, I'm *no* expert on what happened in Seattle,
but I"m not sure the situation is as black-and-white as you make it out to be. I’m not sure how many laws Bennett was breaking. Was he guilty of some underhandedness? Sure, but I’m not sure that equates to the stolen TV analogy.
I’m no Bennett fan, but I don’t blame the fans in OKC. They were great when they had the chance with the Hornets, and if I were in their shoes, I’d have the same open-arms reaction to the team that they do.
-sw
Manny Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
by Steve Weinman on
Oct 28, 2008 10:02 AM EDT
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OK City should have never had to give the Hornets back to New Orleans. They supported them with an atmosphere I’ve seen in few sports venues with boisterous fans who were also nice people. We got plenty of good natured razzing about our Celtics garb. Apparently, jchamorro has never been to one of their games.
Perhaps if Seattle was a little more interested in supporting something they actually derive substantial income from instead of the silly deviant social stuff they thrive on they’d still have an NBA franchise.
It’s not Bennett’s or the OK City people’s fault that Ok City has an NBA franchise.
by Finkelskyhook on
Oct 28, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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Ridiculously Prevalent Urban Myth
Publicly funded stadiums always lose money for the citizens while lining the owners’ pockets, no matter what fancy rhetorical spin the politicos put on it. Sales tax revenue, income tax, economy benefits, etc. all sound great from owners, but the taxpayers always come out behind when publicly funding a stadium.
by Fan from VT on
Oct 30, 2008 10:04 PM EDT
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The problem I have with OKC is not the fan base. The problem I have is with how the Seattle franchise was stolen by Clay Bennett while David Stern looked the other way. When Bennett purchased the team from Howard Schultz, the agreement stipulated that Bennett would make a good faith effort to keep the team in Seattle. Almost immediately upon becoming the new owner, Bennett put in to motion plans to move the franchise to OKC, his hometown. He poisoned negotiations with the city of Seattle from the get go. Take it or leave it, or I’m moving the team to OKC. Stern watched and did nothing.
If you remember Orthwein’s attempted move of the Patriots to St. Louis, in the early 90’s, you should have a better framework for what went on in seattle.
by jchamorro on
Oct 29, 2008 8:06 AM EDT
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How did he steal the franchise?
Hasn’t he payed the price he agreed with Schultz?
The Seattle fans should have bought the franchise themselves. Put your money where your mouth is.
by cordobes on
Oct 29, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
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The mere fact that a group wealthy locals came forth
and offered to buy the team from Bennett indicates that Howard Schultz didn’t do much reaching out to the local community in order to get an ownership group willing to keep the team in town. He’s the main villain in this tragedy, IMO. Other groups did come forward as well, but it was too late…once the team was sold to Bennett, it’s fate was sealed, as evidenced by the e-mails he sent early on despite promising to make a good faith attempt to keep the team in town.
by Omerta on
Oct 31, 2008 5:11 AM EDT
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The Issue is with the Owner
The major issue was the lease of KeyArena. Clay wanted out of the lease because well, it was a bad stadium with the fewest number of seats. There are hardly any luxury suites so he wanted to build a new arena that would yield him greater profit. He also wanted to relegate some of the cost of the stadium to the city of Seattle, but it was too much of a burden for the taxpayers. When Seattle bucked at that, Clay immediately put the idea of moving the team to Oklahoma City into motion. There wasn’t any fair discussion between the owner and the city. What we saw in the news for the last year and half was Clay TRYING to get out while Seattle was trying to work out a deal.
The fans should’ve bought the franchise themselves? Please. Don’t get up on the high horse just because our basketball franchise is secure here. It’s tough to support a basketball team when the owner is messing up the works. Bill Simmons is with me on this.
Oklahoma City deserves the Bobcats, not the Sonics. If you don’t have a clear understanding of what this whole thing is about, that’s fine but you can at least understand that it was an ugly situation and that there is reason to believe Clay’s actions were shady.
by Employee8 on
Oct 29, 2008 3:43 PM EDT
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The silliness of this discussion astounds me. Bennett bought the ballclub, and he made Seattle an offer to build a building. The city said no, and if they did that not expecting the consequences that resulted, Seattle’s leadership are idiots.
The city lost the ballclub, plain and simple. No one’s entitled to a pro sports franchise – not Seattle and not Boston, frankly. Big business today is built on public-private partnerships, whether it be sports, aviation, manufacturing or whatever. If the public doesn’t want to play, there are plenty of cities that will.
Seattle got exactly what it deserved.
by CoachBo on
Oct 30, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
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Easier said then gone through, sir.
Not trying to pick on you, but again, how is it the average basketball fan’s fault that our leadership decided (in the words of one city council member) that basketball didn’t add enough “cultural value” to the city. Everyone who opposed initially re-canted when it became clear that Bennett was serious about moving the team, but it was too late then.
It’s not like it was put to referendum for the people to vote on or anything.
There are lots of people to blame in this mess…the Seattle fanbase is far down on that list. I just want that understood.
by Omerta on
Oct 31, 2008 5:17 AM EDT
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Spend a few days there and it’s pretty obvious that basketball is like priority Z on the Seattle “cultural values” (in Seattle, cultural values is the ultimate oxymoron) list.
CoachBo is right. Seattle reaped what it’s sown for decades.
by Finkelskyhook on
Oct 31, 2008 5:25 PM EDT
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some of you folks use the sonics deal as a way to attacking the leftist leanings of the city. And the connection is what? This same people of that city supported the team for around 40 years. The same government and population built what may be the best football and baseball stadiums in the country within the past ten years. Billions were spent. The sonics drew decent crowds while everyone knew they were leaving and while they were losing. The mariners drew 2 million fans while losing 100 games last year. All the teams here have great attendance records over time.The city leaning FAR left has NOTHING to do with how they lost the team or whether they deserved to. You think its karma or something because they are a bunch of lefties??
The simple truth is that Schultz sold the team to an out of city owner and he did it on purpose because he was pissed that the city didn’t build him an incredible stadium like the Hawks and Mariners have. David Stern brokered the deal. The gov acted too late and acted like idiots whether they are left right or otherwise. Wealthy area citizens made offers to the NBA and Stern and Schultz but the barn doors were already open. It was the perfect storm all around.
OKC is already not selling out. they sold out game one and just missed on the last two. With the oil bubble deflating their economy may be pretty rough for the next decade. we’ll see. I am going to guess that OKC will lose that team within the next 15 years, and Seattle will have a team within ten. The best thing of all for the NBA will be when David Stern retires.
by wahz on
Nov 10, 2008 12:36 PM EST
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