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Tinsley Saga Hangs In the Balance

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The New York Post's renowned Peter Vecsey reported Friday that troubled point guard Jamaal Tinsley had been traded to Denver for Steven Hunter and Chucky Atkins.  Mike Wells, the Indianapolis Star's own top-of-the-line beat writer, fired back a report of his own contradicting Vecsey's claim.  Little has been confirmed, which seems to point to there not being a deal as of yet.

As usual with Tinsley, very little seems to make much sense either.

What does seem logical enough would be the Pacers trying to make this move as quickly as possible.  The ship has long since sailed on the productive part of Jamaal Tinsley's days in Indiana, and the sooner his presence on the roster stops hanging over the team, the better.  If the Pacers can dump him on someone while getting back a veteran backup at the point, a big body and the lack of a massive contract, all the sweeter the pot.

But it's this part about possibly convincing (or having already convinced, depending on who you believe) another team to take the other side of that deal that leaves me baffled.  That the Nuggets are said team only adds to the confusion.

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Tinsley's myriad of issues have been rehashed with abundance both in this space and throughout the media over the last few months, so here's the short-short refresher version: doesn't stay healthy, doesn't behave himself off the court, bad locker room guy, atrociously inefficient shooter, decent but not superb point guard. 

Seems like enough to keep most teams away in the first place.  But just in case that glowing recommendation wasn't enough, this guy is also scheduled to make in the neighborhood of $21 million over the next three years.  That's a rather steep price for a guy who doesn't play all that often (his last five games played totals: 52, 40, 42, 72, 39), causes distractions and image concerns by running afoul of the law and isn't known as the world's most coachable player.  

It's also a steep price to pay for a team that took great pains to remove one of its most important players this offseason solely for the purpose of getting rid of his contract.  Marcus Camby is a stand-up guy, an excellent rebounder and shot-blocker and one of the league's best weak-side interior defenders.  He will also make nearly $16 million between now and summer 2010, so the Nuggets sent him out to Los Angeles in exchange for a second-round pick.   

Tinsley makes $21 million and has a contract that extends through the end of 2011.  Of the two guys rumored to be heading out of town in exchange for him, Steven Hunter has the more, um, lucrative deal, which makes him all of $7 million over the next two seasons.  Atkins' deal expires after this season, in which he'll make $3.4 million.

Quick review: The Nuggets make a move that is nearly a cinch to make them depreciably worse in the present in order to save money down the line, despite the fact that the contract in question expires in 2010, the year long built up as one of the NBA's greatest free agent bonanzas-to-be of all time.  Now, they're rumored to be making a move for an injury-prone distraction whose contract runs past the 2010 barrier while giving up two players who make less money and expire prior to 2010 to do it.  Given Tinsley's health and legal histories, there isn't even a guarantee here that he would make the Nuggets a substantially better team.

This makes sense how exactly? 

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Nice piece, Steve. Tinsley is one of those guys.

by Cousin It on Oct 4, 2008 3:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Next the Nuggets will add Ruben Patterson for bench depth. ;D

If true, this would put Tinsley with K-Mart, AI ,Melo ,and Nene. I know some will defend these guys, but all absolutely have potential knucklehead club member written on their forehead.

Is George Karl commenting on this? 8)

by billysan on Oct 4, 2008 5:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s a massive risk to take. If it wasn’t for the injuries, if Tinsley was to be healthy, then I think you definitely make that trade. But the injuries are too large a risk. I’d leave it be and walk away.

This trade will give a very clear picture of whether or not Denver are full blown rebuilding or are looking to give it one more run.

by Who on Oct 4, 2008 6:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Rocky Mountain News now has Tinsley listed on the Nuggets roster:

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=insidedenver&page=nba/teams/096/roster.aspx?id=096

And there’s already a profile of him:
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=insidedenver&page=nba/teams/096/playerstats.aspx?id=121,T=2

So, I’m assuming this is a done deal. What an immense sigh of relief coming from Indiana! I can hear it, even with an Ocean between us.

I think Indiana should throw in the $3 millions in cash and a 2nd round pick to level things. Perhaps those are the kind of details stopping the deal from being announced. Or maybe Indiana is working to involve a 3rd team in order to unload some of their contracts (they’ll have 17 players with guaranteed contracts if this deal goes through as announced). Hunter is a 7ft, Foster and Nesterovic are expirings, maybe some team would like to take a chance on Williams? Or McRoberts, I remember that kid at Duke and he was athletic with good handles, although not very smart. What happened to him?

I, for one, and although I agree with everything said about Tinsley (the attitude, the distractions, being just decent but not overly talent), would do to lose? Tinsley is a major improvement over Carter in terms of talent. I agree it’s a massive risk, but if Tinsley and Nene can stay healthy, they’ll probably be better than last season and have a shot at a good playoffs run. If not, Iverson will walk next off-season, Karl will be gone as well and then start it all over again.

Anyway, assuming this deal is done, I’m impressed by how much Larry Bird accomplished since Donnie Walsh left. The Pacers are now in a better financial situation, have a better roster and put themselves in a good position to reconcile with the community and fanbase. Kudos to the Legend.

by cordobes on Oct 4, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“I, for one, (…) would do this if I was Denver; what do they have to lose?”

by cordobes on Oct 4, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Indiana will be looking for a way to keep Josh McRoberts. He’s done an amazing job in the community since joining the team. He’s a local boy who the fans love …. they will try to keep him as their 15th man. The only way he doesn’t make it is if an invite is blowing him out of the water, if it’s anyway close it’ll be McRoberts.

Austin Croshere is likely his main competition, he is said to be having a very good camp.

by Who on Oct 4, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

While I’m not in love with this trade for Denver (because of the injuries), I am ecstatic about seeing Tinsley on the Nuggets. Very excited. It’s going to be beautiful when he’s on the court. Big upgrade in terms of talent.

Tinsley – Iverson – Melo – Kenyon – Nene
Key subs: JR Smith/Linas Kleiza/Chris Andersen.

That’s a very good 8 man rotation. It’s not championship caliber but it’s very good.

by Who on Oct 4, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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