Escape from Milwaukee

Well that was fun, interesting. By the skin of their teeth, the Celtics hang on and defeat the Bucks 102 - 97 in overtime(!!!). If you missed the game tonight, note this first sentence is not a joke.
Great job by the Bucks hanging around in a game where they scored 38 sizzling points in the first half.
Bad job by the Celtics not blowing out an inferior team that is playing without two of its top four players.
Some random thoughts as I know there is much to discuss in the comments:
- Big_Matt34 with the line of the night: "Rondo is slumping. Mentally." Here is just one example: On the Celtics final look of regulation with about 1.5 seconds to go...why inbound the ball to Eddie who is 30 feet from the basket versus PP who is 20 feet away and has Jefferson shielded?
- Here's one for Doc. Why was Ray on the floor at the end of regulation? TA is our best perimeter defender and should have been in the game with Rondo for the one stop the Celtics needed.
- Rondo's flying elbow into Pierce's face nearly made me vomit. At first I thought Paul blew out his knee as it was such an awkward collision.
- The Bogut / KG slapfest was heavily debated in The Chatroom. It was dumb. They both were guilty and I was fine with the technicals for each. It was too bad for the Bucks and Bogut that the Aussie had already picked up a T in an earlier confrontation.
- For those who meanly overly cheer for Scals, know that your buddy B.Scal got 13 minutes of burn tonight and wasn't awful! In fact he had a couple of nice plays and scored 5 points.
Well its been a rough week. A tough game against the new Pistons, squeaked out wins versus the Raptors and Hawks, loss to the Nuggets and a OT win versus the Bucks. Next game is Tuesday versus the running Knickerbockers.
| BOSTON CELTICS | |||||||||||||
| STARTERS | MIN | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | OREB | DREB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | PTS |
| Kevin Garnett, PF | 39 | 6-15 | 0-0 | 3-4 | 2 | 5 | 7 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 15 |
| Paul Pierce, SF | 41 | 5-9 | 4-4 | 14-15 | 1 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 28 |
| Kendrick Perkins, C | 29 | 1-3 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 2 |
| Ray Allen, SG | 40 | 8-16 | 2-7 | 9-9 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 27 |
| Rajon Rondo, PG | 36 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 2-2 | 0 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 2 |
| BENCH | MIN | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | OREB | DREB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | PTS |
| Eddie House, SG | 20 | 4-12 | 1-6 | 1-1 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 10 |
| Brian Scalabrine, PF | 13 | 2-2 | 1-1 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 5 |
| Tony Allen, SG | 10 | 1-2 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
| Leon Powe, PF | 19 | 2-2 | 0-0 | 2-4 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 5 | 6 |
| Glen Davis, PF | 18 | 2-5 | 0-0 | 1-1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 5 |
| TOTALS | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | OREB | DREB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | PTS | |
| 31-67 | 8-18 | 32-36 | 7 | 30 | 37 | 22 | 7 | 9 | 19 | 33 | 102 | ||
| 46.3% | 44.4% | 88.9% | Team TO (pts off): 19 (0) | ||||||||||
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Comments
the boxscore tells the tale
there’s no way we can blow out mediocre teams if the big three are the only offense this team has they’d each have to be averaging 30 points yeah rondo and perk are great for D but they have to help on the offense otherwise its like playing 5 on 3 coupled with the inconsistency from the bench and it means more tight games like these
by twinbree on Nov 16, 2008 12:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
RE: Perk and Rondo Offense
Perk’s offense relies on getting passes from guys going to the bucket. That’s when his defender leaves him and Perk can fill into the open space. The C’s have become more of a jumpshooting team lately and this takes Perk out of the offense. There are no plays called for Perk. Rondo is just passing up shots. I think I heard a week or so ago that he had a muscle sprain (?groin), but I’m not sure that I’m correct in this. Even so, if he’s playing he needs to shoot the ball. Maybe this will be worked out in practice today. Rondo also doesn’t seem to be pushing the ball as much, and he’s not been staying in front of his man on defense which has been a consistent problem. For whatever reason, Rondo just isn’t playing well. I’d like to see him get a few games off and let Pruitt start (for the sake of not upsetting House’s role in the rotation). In preseason Pruitt was able to stay in front of his man and he was making shots.
by TrueGreen on Nov 17, 2008 8:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a win is a win, and where is waldo,er, i mean rondo. his shot looked better last year. kg looks like he’s acting ferocious but is not that ferocious, and they have to run more plays for perk.
by nazzbo on Nov 16, 2008 12:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
"Here’s one for Doc. Why was Ray on the floor at the end of regulation? TA is our best perimeter defender and should have been in the game with Rondo for the one stop the Celtics needed. "
Funny, people often hate when TA is on the floor at the end of games because of his mental lapses and going for pump fakes. I tell you, Doc can’t win one in this blog. More than why TA wasn’t on the floor, I want to know where was Garnett and our other bigs with heir help defense? They were right there, and they elected to stay with their men. That hasn’t been Celtics type of defense since last season. Someone is beaten off the dribble, the bigs come and help, and the rest of the team rotates to help.
by BudweiserCeltic on Nov 16, 2008 12:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Another lucky win. I will say, however, that the officiating is starting to drive me away from the NBA. Maybe I’ll start watching hockey. How many more amateurish efforts from the officials do we have to endure?
by Brickowski on Nov 16, 2008 12:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
They need more bench help. Cassell or Pruitt need to play. What happened to Walker? Look at the Big 3s minutes. they were suppose to go down. We need Offense off the bench.
by liamail on Nov 16, 2008 12:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
TA on the floor at the end of the regulation...
… doesn’t bring a lot of good memories.
by cordobes on Nov 16, 2008 12:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
And the opposing players are completely innocent. I don’t buy it. He is not out there to make friends of the opposition anyways.
by NoraG1 on Nov 16, 2008 12:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Above comment is in response to the KG antics.
by NoraG1 on Nov 16, 2008 12:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
OT messed me up
Had to tape the game tonight – Came home to watch it. DVR stopped recording with a minute to go in OT….oh well we won. I love KG’s antics….
.and Scali didn’t suck tonight….the second sign of the coming of the apocalypse.
A Celtic player gets hurt by another Celtic player and Scali was not involved…..third sign the end is near.
We better hope PP can stay healthy ……
Is it Soup Yet?
by Master Po on Nov 16, 2008 1:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tale of the Season
Two points that have been noted and with which I totally agree.
1. The target on the Celtics back has become even bigger than last year. The Celts take the best shot of every opponent. It is going to be a long, tough season.
2. The bench is struggling to contribute. McDyess would certainly be a great, great, great addition. I would also like to see Pruitt get a few more minutes.
It is good to be able to complain at 9-2.
Our expectations have certainly risen.
Go the Green !!!!
Cheers
Aussie
by Aussie Celtic on Nov 16, 2008 2:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lol
Im sorry but nice excuse… “big targert on their backs and everyones brining it harder than last year”’
BS…I dont see that at all, I see the celtics noy playing good basketball and I see rondo being a detriment to the team. Last year a target was on our back being on every single magazine and starting off the way we did, sorry buddy
by thecaptain34 on Nov 16, 2008 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
...continued
Glad the C’s get a day off, they look beat. C’s turnovers and getting beat on the board kept the Bucks in the game. Otherwise that was a 20 pt blowout in regulation.
TA on the floor at the end of regulation? That’s almost a guaranteed foul and opposing teams know it. They’ll go right to the player who TA is guarding and instuct him to pump fake or attempt a shot knowing he’ll get fouled. I like TA, but like Perk before him, he needs to learn how to avoid cheap fouls in critical moments.
KG does seem to have an extra edge this season. Maybe he’s afraid the ring would make him soft, so he went extra psycho. I think he’ll lay off the insanity a bit once the C’s are on a roll. It just looks like crazy, nervous energy right now.
by LuckyNumber07 on Nov 16, 2008 7:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
KG does not seem to have an extra edge, he seems to have completly lost his edge IMO
by thecaptain34 on Nov 16, 2008 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crapola
When Garnett supposedly went psycho, he was merely acting in a sensible way. Bogut hit him twice in the face on the same play. I don’t buy it was an accident, and apparently, neither did Garnett. So he smacked the guy back. Big deal.
I was watching on the NBA Broadband, and listening to the one hometown Milwaukee announcer crying about how unfair it all was. And yet his partner in the booth couldn’t help notice that Bogut had hit Garnett twice before Garnett responded.
I don’t know what edge it is that Garnett is supposed to have lost. Without his defense, the Celtics would have lost that game. Yes, as a team, the Celltics aren’t clicking on all cylinders. Are you really surprised? Do you think they can, and should be at the top of their game now, and can maintain it all the way throught the season? Doesn’t anyone remember the Celtics losing back to back games last season to Washington? Fans are over reacting.
by no kidding on Nov 16, 2008 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok wait a minuet
Did Rondo really only take one shot the entire 36 min he played? I mean is that possible? I expect to see missed but one shit! Are you serious!
I sincerely hope that from Doc to the owners and all in between are not satisfied at all with anybody outside of the big three. Perk, you know I had hoped he would come into to his own a little more offensively like perhaps 8.2 and 10rbs a game. I mean I think they are hoping and I mean desperately hoping this kid they drafted from Turkey can provide some offense off the bench next year. We need points from the 5 spot this is ridiculous,,,I mean between 5-10 a night is that so hard to ask?
Rondo, I’m starting to really dislike this kid. I think a point guard in the present day NBA needs to score, period! If this is the best Rondo can do, give Pruitt and chance and then look at 2010 for a PG. I mean I was under the impression after he progressed nicely last year that it would be steady. Is it me or has he taken a step back?
by richardlight on Nov 16, 2008 8:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
They Barely Beat Some Scrubs
Perkins did not play well either. And generaly speaking, the turnovers are becoming a concern.
I take no solace in the fact that they won the game. They were barely able to beat a team consisting of Sessions, who was in the D-league last year, Ridnour, who wasn’t good enough to start in Seattle, Gadzuric, the backup center and Mbah a Moute, a rookie second round draft choice. The only legitimte NBA starter on the floor for the Bucks was Jefferson.
I too would like Pruitt to get a serious look. Rondo’s play has been erratic.
by Brickowski on Nov 16, 2008 8:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A subdued Chris Paul
Chris Paul, PG 35 2-10 0-1 8-8 1 2 3 12 1 0 3 4 12
The Rockets bottled Chris paul up and these were his numbers. Right now, if Rajon were doing this we would be a different team in my opinion. This would be at the present time a great night for him. As you can see although he shot less then a desirable FG % he got to the line and hit all his FTs which is something Rondo should do. Manufacture points.
by richardlight on Nov 16, 2008 9:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Devin Harris had 33 pts and 10 assits last night and rookie Drose had 23 pts and 7 assists
rondo 2 pts and 6 assits..sorry rondo but youre one if not the worst starting PG in the league
by thecaptain34 on Nov 16, 2008 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Back on the TA at the end of the game comment...
You guys are right that he certainly has had his struggles in end of game situations. However if the Bucks are going to play Sessions and Ridnour, Ray Allen is left on an island. He can’t cover those guys straight up as they are too quick.
TA’s most obvious struggle was against Billups. Ridnour isn’t the cagey vet that Billups is, nor is he going to get the same calls.
If Ray is already a disadvantage, I don’t see the harm in putting TA in there who at least has a shot to stay in front of Ridnour.
by Green17 on Nov 16, 2008 9:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll take the win
The Bucks can have the moral victory. 9-2 and they haven’t played that well yet. They definitely have gotten into bad habits especially on offense. The bench is also not as good as the one that we had in the playoffs. I suspect both of these problems will be resolved by the spring. The only thing that will derail this team is an injury to one of the big three.
by reggie35 on Nov 16, 2008 9:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don;’t think the problem is the bench at all. The problems are (1) Perkins and Rondo are playing poorly, and (2) turnovers. The turnovers seem to be a problem for both the first and the second units.
by Brickowski on Nov 16, 2008 10:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about that
Alright Brick I agree with on Rondo and Perk. The bench is plating poorly though. I mean ok Eddie’s 13 pts every now and again but a lot of other team’s benches are producing points. Don’t you thing we should at the very least see what OBryant, Pruitt and Walker could do? I mean more then 1-3mins worth?
by richardlight on Nov 16, 2008 10:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
funny thing is that perk can score when the gets the ball. as much as I hate to say this it wouldn’t be the worse thing in the world to try and get perk somemore shots. He is very ponderous with his moves and 50% of the time when he gets theball it results in a turnover but Perk like most players plays better when he’s involved on the offesnive end as well as the defensive end. clearly we need more production out of rondo and perk. It could be that in the desire to get ray allen going that rondo feels he shouldn’t shoot at all. The kid doesn’t look good right now. As for KG I would like to see a little more production and a little less histrionics and theatrics. It’s great once in a while but all that clapping etc doesn’t mean squat if you’re not doing the job. I would like to see us feed him the ball more and for him to move to the basket. he did that better last night but he still needs to do it more and get to the line. 20 free throws through 9 games is jsut ridiculous. he is playing too soft
by Red2 on Nov 16, 2008 10:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lets look at it like this: where is improvement CLEARLY needed to be better, and we can all agree:
1. point has to be able to get to the hole and score and make free throws. he can get to the hole but isn’t doing it. he isn’t making his free throws.
2. point has to be able to be an extra option jumper. he was doing this last year and making them. not this year.
3. KG seems even farther out in the post than last year more often.
4. Perimeter defense is not rotating as well as last year.
5. We don’t have a long big man off the bench
6. When rondo is out the offense is directed poorly.
I mean this is about it. Rondo has to go to the hole more and needs to make open jumpers and free throws. KG needs to be in the lower post a few more times a game. Beyond that the remaining issues are we don’t have Pose and PJ or a back up for rondo who is playing well as a point. Danny is counting on us being able to win a title anyway, and i agree with him. but Rondo has to get back to where he was last year, and KG can’t get even softer in the post
by wahz on Nov 16, 2008 12:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh and i have to add pp
is even better. I really think PP is the one who is at least as good and probably better, and Rays effort has been as steady as can be.
by wahz on Nov 16, 2008 12:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tottally Agree
PP and Ray allen deserve alot of credit, everone else is worse than last so far
by thecaptain34 on Nov 16, 2008 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PP is on a mission! Too bad the rest of the team didn’t get the memo.
by Bankshot on Nov 16, 2008 2:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exhausted
Our guys are burnt, give them some rest and they will be back on a roll
by CfanMissippi on Nov 16, 2008 6:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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